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Post by defmaybe00 on Dec 17, 2021 11:26:32 GMT -5
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Post by mexico2418 on Dec 17, 2021 17:06:31 GMT -5
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Post by mossy on Dec 18, 2021 4:31:35 GMT -5
This is a gig? How many cover songs can we expect from him?
I expect one will make it onto his RSD covers thing...
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Post by girllikeabomb on Dec 18, 2021 4:58:05 GMT -5
This is a gig? How many cover songs can we expect from him? I expect one will make it onto his RSD covers thing... It never even occurred to me that there could be more than one ... 🤞
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Post by Bonehead's Barber on Dec 18, 2021 11:42:04 GMT -5
He's done Heroes, previously. I can only imagine that will be recycled. Maybe All The Young Dudes? (I know it wasn't strictly Bowie)
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Post by tiger40 on Dec 18, 2021 13:53:55 GMT -5
I wonder where they'll do this online gig with the current situation with Covid. They'll have to do it from different locations surely.
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Post by drummert5 on Dec 18, 2021 19:54:37 GMT -5
Bowie has such a rich catalog, and NG has a track record of “unexpected until you hear them then perfect” covers.
I can imagine a good NG “Man Who Sold the World”, or for a more left field pick what about “The Stars Are Out Tonight”?
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Post by Lennon2217 on Dec 19, 2021 0:03:17 GMT -5
He's done Heroes, previously. I can only imagine that will be recycled. Maybe All The Young Dudes? (I know it wasn't strictly Bowie) Oasis’ cover of “Heroes” left a lot to be desired. Total rush job.
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Post by Lennon2217 on Dec 19, 2021 0:05:34 GMT -5
Bowie has such a rich catalog, and NG has a track record of “unexpected until you hear them then perfect” covers. I can imagine a good NG “Man Who Sold the World”, or for a more left field pick what about “The Stars Are Out Tonight”? He shouldn’t go anywhere near a cover that Nirvana perfected 27 years ago. How about “Jean Genie”?
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Post by girllikeabomb on Dec 19, 2021 5:31:00 GMT -5
Bowie has such a rich catalog, and NG has a track record of “unexpected until you hear them then perfect” covers. I can imagine a good NG “Man Who Sold the World”, or for a more left field pick what about “The Stars Are Out Tonight”? I highly doubt he would go there but I'd like to hear him do "Oh You Pretty Things." Or he could do an interesting "Absolute Beginners." If he does repeat "Heroes" hopefully it'll be a completely different arrangement, a stripped-down acoustic version could be something.
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Post by drummert5 on Dec 19, 2021 12:53:18 GMT -5
I highly doubt he would go there but I'd like to hear him do "Oh You Pretty Things." Or he could do an interesting "Absolute Beginners." If he does repeat "Heroes" hopefully it'll be a completely different arrangement, a stripped-down acoustic version could be something. Oooh, +1 to Absolute Beginners, that could work well. Vocally, I think he could do an interesting “Changes,” but I’m less sure he could find a comfortable arrangement of that.
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Post by tiger40 on Dec 19, 2021 13:30:04 GMT -5
He's done Heroes, previously. I can only imagine that will be recycled. Maybe All The Young Dudes? (I know it wasn't strictly Bowie) Oasis’ cover of “Heroes” left a lot to be desired. Total rush job. It's ok I guess but it's certainly not one of the best Oasis covers that's for sure.
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Post by Lennon2217 on Dec 19, 2021 14:53:05 GMT -5
Oasis’ cover of “Heroes” left a lot to be desired. Total rush job. It's ok I guess but it's certainly not one of the best Oasis covers that's for sure. In my head I’ve always imagined that the Bowie cover was a last second agreement between the Bowie and Oasis camps not to Sue over the blatant “Stand By Me” / “All The Young Dudes” comparison. That Oasis had to cover a Bowie song got a b-side.
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Post by drummert5 on Dec 19, 2021 15:14:13 GMT -5
Oasis’ cover of “Heroes” left a lot to be desired. Total rush job. It's ok I guess but it's certainly not one of the best Oasis covers that's for sure. Better than their cover of Street Fighting Man. Then, so is silence.
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Post by girllikeabomb on Dec 19, 2021 15:55:55 GMT -5
It's ok I guess but it's certainly not one of the best Oasis covers that's for sure. In my head I’ve always imagined that the Bowie cover was a last second agreement between the Bowie and Oasis camps not to Sue over the blatant “Stand By Me” / “All The Young Dudes” comparison. That Oasis had to cover a Bowie song got a b-side. As if Bowie needed an Oasis b-side! (He and Freddie Mercury happily sued Vanilla Ice and got credits on their song. I think in the case of "Stand By Me" he saw it as an ode rather than a steal.)
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Post by Lennon2217 on Dec 19, 2021 16:20:08 GMT -5
In my head I’ve always imagined that the Bowie cover was a last second agreement between the Bowie and Oasis camps not to Sue over the blatant “Stand By Me” / “All The Young Dudes” comparison. That Oasis had to cover a Bowie song got a b-side. As if Bowie needed an Oasis b-side! (He and Freddie Mercury happily sued Vanilla Ice and got credits on their song. I think in the case of "Stand By Me" he saw it as an ode rather than a steal.) Like I said. This was all in my head. Lennon worked out a similar arrangement with the Chuck Berry camp in the early 70s over “Come Together”. Plus spring/early summer 1997, Oasis singles easily sold 500,000 to 1,000,000 copies. Peak of their sales at this time. A b-side on the new single could have been a compromise. Again this is a hypothetical.
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Post by girllikeabomb on Dec 19, 2021 19:27:57 GMT -5
As if Bowie needed an Oasis b-side! (He and Freddie Mercury happily sued Vanilla Ice and got credits on their song. I think in the case of "Stand By Me" he saw it as an ode rather than a steal.) Like I said. This was all in my head. Lennon worked out a similar arrangement with the Chuck Berry camp in the early 70s over “Come Together”. Plus spring/early summer 1997, Oasis singles easily sold 500,000 to 1,000,000 copies. Peak of their sales at this time. A b-side on the new single could have been a compromise. Again this is a hypothetical. It's a funny idea but just unlikely it really happened that way. The "Come Together" thing was a bit different. Lennon was in fact sued, not by Chuck Berry but by the rights holder of the song, Morris Levy. The suit was filed but they later settled out of court with Lennon agreeing to cover 3 songs owned by Levy (only one was a Chuck Berry song, because that's the terrible way the music business was run!). But then Lennon never did release the third ("Angel Baby") and was sued again by Levy who won the case. Which mostly goes to show that if you're mad enough you're always going to sue. I think Bowie at one point said he was flattered that Oasis liked him (not sure that was in reference to "Stand By Me" but in any case doesn't seem that he was bothered much by the song.) Now maybe in the back of Noel's mind doing "Heroes" was a thank you to Bowie ...
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Post by Lennon2217 on Dec 19, 2021 20:37:27 GMT -5
Like I said. This was all in my head. Lennon worked out a similar arrangement with the Chuck Berry camp in the early 70s over “Come Together”. Plus spring/early summer 1997, Oasis singles easily sold 500,000 to 1,000,000 copies. Peak of their sales at this time. A b-side on the new single could have been a compromise. Again this is a hypothetical. It's a funny idea but just unlikely it really happened that way. The "Come Together" thing was a bit different. Lennon was in fact sued, not by Chuck Berry but by the rights holder of the song, Morris Levy. The suit was filed but they later settled out of court with Lennon agreeing to cover 3 songs owned by Levy (only one was a Chuck Berry song, because that's the terrible way the music business was run!). But then Lennon never did release the third ("Angel Baby") and was sued again by Levy who won the case. Which mostly goes to show that if you're mad enough you're always going to sue. I think Bowie at one point said he was flattered that Oasis liked him (not sure that was in reference to "Stand By Me" but in any case doesn't seem that he was bothered much by the song.) Now maybe in the back of Noel's mind doing "Heroes" was a thank you to Bowie ... For me at the time it was interesting. Oasis known as the extreme Beatles fanboys in 1997. Then their comeback single featured a David Bowie song and then BHN had a heavily influenced Bowie homage. Fascinating in the moment.
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Post by girllikeabomb on Dec 20, 2021 1:31:52 GMT -5
It's a funny idea but just unlikely it really happened that way. The "Come Together" thing was a bit different. Lennon was in fact sued, not by Chuck Berry but by the rights holder of the song, Morris Levy. The suit was filed but they later settled out of court with Lennon agreeing to cover 3 songs owned by Levy (only one was a Chuck Berry song, because that's the terrible way the music business was run!). But then Lennon never did release the third ("Angel Baby") and was sued again by Levy who won the case. Which mostly goes to show that if you're mad enough you're always going to sue. I think Bowie at one point said he was flattered that Oasis liked him (not sure that was in reference to "Stand By Me" but in any case doesn't seem that he was bothered much by the song.) Now maybe in the back of Noel's mind doing "Heroes" was a thank you to Bowie ... For me at the time it was interesting. Oasis known as the extreme Beatles fanboys in 1997. Then their comeback single featured a David Bowie song and then BHN had a heavily influenced Bowie homage. Fascinating in the moment. That's a good point that it was a kind of Beatles to Bowie shift in that moment. I remember reading that the first Bowie song Noel ever heard was "Heroes," which always surprised me a little. Though he clearly knew Mott the Hoople! I did find this amusing news item from 1997 (I guess Bowie didn't think too hard about it!): OASIS NOEL SAYS HE TOOK BOWIE'S RIFF
Among the revelations dished out by Oasis' driving creative force Noel Gallagher to "Q Magazine" recently was the admission that he has ripped off the David Bowie-penned classic "All The Young Dudes".
Gallagher tells the magazine that he based his songs "Don't Look Back In Anger" and "Stand By Me" on the main riff from the Bowie song, and stated, "He's still not sued me yet."
A spokesman for Bowie said that he's currently enjoying a Caribbean vacation before his appearance at this Friday's KROQ Almost Acoustic Christmas show, and was not immediately available for comment. The spokesperson added, "We're not aware of it. It's not the first time it's been brought to our attention. David will have to think about it after his holiday."
Gallagher also told the British magazine that success bores him, and that he "can't record another big rock and roll album. And If I can ditch a few of these little kids that stand outside my house 24 hours a day, then that'd be nice too."
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Post by tiger40 on Dec 20, 2021 13:44:22 GMT -5
It's ok I guess but it's certainly not one of the best Oasis covers that's for sure. In my head I’ve always imagined that the Bowie cover was a last second agreement between the Bowie and Oasis camps not to Sue over the blatant “Stand By Me” / “All The Young Dudes” comparison. That Oasis had to cover a Bowie song got a b-side. Let's not forget that Noel ripped off All The Young Dudes in Don’t Look Back In Anger too. As for the agreement part you mention I never thought of that.
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Post by tiger40 on Dec 20, 2021 13:47:10 GMT -5
It's ok I guess but it's certainly not one of the best Oasis covers that's for sure. Better than their cover of Street Fighting Man. Then, so is silence. I actually don't mind their cover of Street Fighting Man. However, I think maybe their cover of Hereos would've perhaps sounded better with Liam on vocals instead of Noel.
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Post by Lennon2217 on Dec 20, 2021 13:56:31 GMT -5
Better than their cover of Street Fighting Man. Then, so is silence. I actually don't mind their cover of Street Fighting Man. However, I think maybe their cover of Hereos would've perhaps sounded better with Liam on vocals instead of Noel. The live acoustic Heroes was good although I never found a decent sounding audio file.
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Post by tiger40 on Dec 20, 2021 14:24:27 GMT -5
I actually don't mind their cover of Street Fighting Man. However, I think maybe their cover of Hereos would've perhaps sounded better with Liam on vocals instead of Noel. The live acoustic Heroes was good although I never found a decent sounding audio file. I absolutely forgot about that and it's a shame that Noel didn't do this version of the song a lot more than he did.
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Post by redvers on Dec 21, 2021 10:26:40 GMT -5
In my head I’ve always imagined that the Bowie cover was a last second agreement between the Bowie and Oasis camps not to Sue over the blatant “Stand By Me” / “All The Young Dudes” comparison. That Oasis had to cover a Bowie song got a b-side. Let's not forget that Noel ripped off All The Young Dudes in Don’t Look Back In Anger too. As for the agreement part you mention I never thought of that. Does that really count? You can barely hear that riff in the final mix, the eBow part is completely drowned out.
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Post by tiger40 on Dec 21, 2021 13:46:28 GMT -5
Let's not forget that Noel ripped off All The Young Dudes in Don’t Look Back In Anger too. As for the agreement part you mention I never thought of that. Does that really count? You can barely hear that riff in the final mix, the eBow part is completely drowned out. Maybe not but I was just going by what has been said in the past about it.
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