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Post by marianna on Jan 26, 2020 12:34:49 GMT -5
Don't get me wrong, but you might be underestimating the impact of one little thing called Brexit. I, for instance, was interested in one of these gigs, but won't risk buying a ticket until I know what kind of ID I'd need, as a EU citizen. I won't buy a ticket if, adding to the ticket price, travel and hotel expenses I'll have to add a passport renewal cost and, God forbid, a visa. I'm in no way saying that is the case with everybody, but I could see it a hinderance. Brexit will effect many things going forward but I don't think Noel selling out a hometown gig quickly is one of them. Ok, just stating from personal experience. Anyway, if people think only Mancs used to go Manchester gigs, you'd be wrong. Of course that's not the main factor, though. By the way, why do British people use 'effect' as a synonym for 'affect'? Is it the same, for you guys?
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Post by thomaslivesforever on Jan 26, 2020 13:01:43 GMT -5
Brexit will effect many things going forward but I don't think Noel selling out a hometown gig quickly is one of them. Ok, just stating from personal experience. Anyway, if people think only Mancs used to go Manchester gigs, you'd be wrong. Of course that's not the main factor, though. By the way, why do British people use 'effect' as a synonym for 'affect'? Is it the same, for you guys? It’s not the same. It’s just a case of this English person getting th the wrong way around 😂
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Post by Deleted on Jan 26, 2020 13:21:03 GMT -5
Don't get me wrong it's weird to see it still not sell out. The pricing is really a bit much, but I'm sure it's not the only reason. However, I'm sure they'll still be great nights and that the venue will fill up soon enough. I'm off on the Tuesday (meant to book the Wednesday and clicked the wrong bloody date!) and looking forward to it. Don't get me wrong, but you might be underestimating the impact of one little thing called Brexit. I, for instance, was interested in one of these gigs, but won't risk buying a ticket until I know what kind of ID I'd need, as a EU citizen. I won't buy a ticket if, adding to the ticket price, travel and hotel expenses I'll have to add a passport renewal cost and, God forbid, a visa. I'm in no way saying that is the case with everybody, but I could see it a hinderance. We're still in the transition period until the end of 2020. There is absolutely zero chance that a visa will be needed. Did people actually believe Get bReXiT dONe lmao
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Post by marianna on Jan 26, 2020 13:29:04 GMT -5
Don't get me wrong, but you might be underestimating the impact of one little thing called Brexit. I, for instance, was interested in one of these gigs, but won't risk buying a ticket until I know what kind of ID I'd need, as a EU citizen. I won't buy a ticket if, adding to the ticket price, travel and hotel expenses I'll have to add a passport renewal cost and, God forbid, a visa. I'm in no way saying that is the case with everybody, but I could see it a hinderance. We're still in the transition period until the end of 2020. There is absolutely zero chance that a visa will be needed. Did people actually believe Get bReXiT dONe lmao I'm well aware of the transition period. Can we use the european ID card, though? Ah, nevermind, just checked, 'passport preferred', wouldn't risk it, psychological Brexit happened a while ago for many of you. I need a passport with a 6 month validity early next year 😂
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Post by marianna on Jan 26, 2020 13:31:43 GMT -5
Ok, just stating from personal experience. Anyway, if people think only Mancs used to go Manchester gigs, you'd be wrong. Of course that's not the main factor, though. By the way, why do British people use 'effect' as a synonym for 'affect'? Is it the same, for you guys? It’s not the same. It’s just a case of this English person getting th the wrong way around 😂 Ha! Ok, thanks... Thing is, I've seen it written so many times, I was starting to wonder.
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Post by igotflair on Jan 27, 2020 6:01:25 GMT -5
This. He’s a singer/songwriter enjoying his current thing. He’s almost certainly more successful in his game than we all are in ours. I don’t understand how people who were once fans seem to enjoy gloating that he’s not as popular as he was. Strange cats. He could fill stadiums on many consecutive nights if he wanted, we know how. He’s still the one in control, as he always was. Is all he needs. Not gloating at all, just a bit taken back by it. It's just a bit mad to see how the tables have turned THIS much so quickly. We aren't talking Heaton Park here, we are talking about a 3500 capacity venue. I'm still able to get standing tickets 3 days after they went on sale. bt95 Yeah, mental ticket prices I agree. Yeah I get that your post was just an observation; wasn’t referring to any posts on here which is why I didn’t quote. Just some comments floating around my bubble which aren’t cool. I’m excited for it, he always puts on a great show and I’ve not seen him for almost 2 years. I had to pull out of Cardiff Castle last year cos of surgery. Shite times. bt95 tickets going on sale a few days before January payday was the worst decision ever by the promoters.
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Post by bt95 on Jan 27, 2020 11:36:59 GMT -5
Not gloating at all, just a bit taken back by it. It's just a bit mad to see how the tables have turned THIS much so quickly. We aren't talking Heaton Park here, we are talking about a 3500 capacity venue. I'm still able to get standing tickets 3 days after they went on sale. bt95 Yeah, mental ticket prices I agree. Yeah I get that your post was just an observation; wasn’t referring to any posts on here which is why I didn’t quote. Just some comments floating around my bubble which aren’t cool. I’m excited for it, he always puts on a great show and I’ve not seen him for almost 2 years. I had to pull out of Cardiff Castle last year cos of surgery. Shite times. bt95 tickets going on sale a few days before January payday was the worst decision ever by the promotors. Yeah I mean the promoters have kind of dived here it seems. Suppose it was announced in line with the charity gig which is fair enough. And - I don't know how it works - but doesn't the promoter set the prices? Obviously Noel/his management will have a say too. It will be great. Whatever people say, Noel's live show is as good as it has ever been. I didn't see Oasis live myself but with all the evidence I have - musically - I think it's also as good and as joyous as Oasis at their different peaks, but obviously different - because nothing can ever match the 'thing' Oasis had. I'm willing to pay but I totally understand people not doing. When I saw Kelly Jones at the Apollo I think it came to £55 + booking fee. So not that much difference really, but £55 is like a standard price now, so anything above it does seem steep.
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Post by Gas Panic on Jan 27, 2020 18:29:39 GMT -5
All tickets still available for both nights except cheap seats!
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Post by Rolo on Jan 27, 2020 19:33:10 GMT -5
All tickets still available for both nights except cheap seats! Mental really.
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Post by Gas Panic on Jan 28, 2020 4:29:18 GMT -5
All tickets still available for both nights except cheap seats! Wow, how times have changed It's mental isn't it. Even with the supposed "failure" of Beady Eye they never failed to sell out a tour instantly if memory serves, certainly in the UK at least. Noel and his team are really going to have to rethink their strategy going forward.
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Post by darmin on Jan 28, 2020 8:08:08 GMT -5
Wow, how times have changed It's mental isn't it. Even with the supposed "failure" of Beady Eye they never failed to sell out a tour instantly if memory serves, certainly in the UK at least. Noel and his team are really going to have to rethink their strategy going forward. BE played 1k-2k capacity venues in the UK (according to Liam). Noels doing better than BE.
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Post by bt95 on Jan 28, 2020 11:11:16 GMT -5
It's mental isn't it. Even with the supposed "failure" of Beady Eye they never failed to sell out a tour instantly if memory serves, certainly in the UK at least. Noel and his team are really going to have to rethink their strategy going forward. BE played 1k-2k capacity venues in the UK (according to Liam). Noels doing better than BE. They played academies too. But - as far as I recall - it was on their first tour when the 'hype' was still there. They obviously didn't tour much after 2012. If BE had priced a gig at £70, like, then they wouldn't have come close. The promoter/venue/Noel's management cocked up with the pricing. It's far too much.
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Post by drummert5 on Jan 28, 2020 15:52:21 GMT -5
He also had 2 MEN shows in 2018 and Heaton Park last year. It’s possible the number of people who want to see him every year, at high prices and without the buzz of an album cycle, is more limited. It doesn’t mean he won’t still sell in 2022.
Also, the conventional wisdom among promoters these days is that if you sell out in advance, you got the pricing model wrong. They’d rather be selling the last few tickets while the support act is playing. I don’t like it either, but that’s definitely the direction of travel.
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Post by Gas Panic on Jan 30, 2020 6:25:42 GMT -5
All tickets still available for both nights except cheap seats! 3 days later the same tickets still available. Over 6 days since they came up for sale. I imagine BMR will help them sell.
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Post by liquidtmd1885 on Jan 31, 2020 4:25:02 GMT -5
I think another reason it's not sold as strongly to the fanbase (beyond the price) is that it's unlikely to be a radically different setlist to what's been and gone in the last few years
As mentioned I saw him in '18 at the Ritz Manc gig, and looking at the last setlist he played in '19 it's not that different. Equally beyond BMR these coming gigs are unlikely to hold many suprises
I'd love for him to go nuts and have a complete reshuffle for his last remaining gigs before going on hiatus, but it's 99% unlikely
I do hope he ditches All You Need is Love and a few others he's relied on this tour and chucks in one or two changes. Would kill for a 'Hey Now' or something unplayed for years
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Post by Nyron Nosworthy on Jan 31, 2020 19:11:08 GMT -5
I saw Noel at the This is Tomorrow Festival last year and the tickets were cheaper than I'd paid for his solo tour the year before. He still played a full set and you got a load of other bands included too. £70 is crazy.
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Post by Derrick on Feb 1, 2020 14:58:33 GMT -5
Still not sold out? Or did the release of "Blue moon rising" boost ticket sales a bit?
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Post by Gas Panic on Feb 2, 2020 14:57:32 GMT -5
Still not sold out? Or did the release of "Blue moon rising" boost ticket sales a bit? All tickets still available except the cheaper seats.
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Post by bt95 on Feb 3, 2020 18:30:41 GMT -5
I doubt they'll sell out until (at the earliest) a few days before.
It's a shame, but it's the pricing (well, that's a big part)/demand.
Noel's done a lot of gigs in the last two years. The demand isn't there to justify the pricing.
Promoters/management have cocked up massively on it.
The shows will be top - people will get their worth - but it's a lot of money to fork out.
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Post by pliolite on Feb 8, 2020 16:39:36 GMT -5
If the Apollo hasn't sold out, that proves people have had enough. He's never gonna play anywhere smaller, so he should disappear for a bit and come back with a bang.
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Post by bt95 on Feb 9, 2020 5:49:29 GMT -5
If the Apollo hasn't sold out, that proves people have had enough. He's never gonna play anywhere smaller, so he should disappear for a bit and come back with a bang. Don't think it proves people have had enough, it's just ludicrous pricing. He has been on tour a lot in the last few years but there's the new EP material to play and he needs to keep the band working somehow – plus, lines his coffers like. I doubt he'll tour for a year after this at least and I can't imagine we'll get an album before late 2021 at the earliest, so I'm gonna enjoy it.
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Post by Rolo on Feb 9, 2020 11:53:21 GMT -5
If the Apollo hasn't sold out, that proves people have had enough. He's never gonna play anywhere smaller, so he should disappear for a bit and come back with a bang. Don't think it proves people have had enough, it's just ludicrous pricing. He has been on tour a lot in the last few years but there's the new EP material to play and he needs to keep the band working somehow – plus, lines his coffers like. I doubt he'll tour for a year after this at least and I can't imagine we'll get an album before late 2021 at the earliest, so I'm gonna enjoy it. Nah mate come on, the pricing is steep yeah but we aren't talking £150 a ticket here, if the demand was there it would sell out easily. He needs to go away for a while.
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Post by bt95 on Feb 9, 2020 12:26:57 GMT -5
Don't think it proves people have had enough, it's just ludicrous pricing. He has been on tour a lot in the last few years but there's the new EP material to play and he needs to keep the band working somehow – plus, lines his coffers like. I doubt he'll tour for a year after this at least and I can't imagine we'll get an album before late 2021 at the earliest, so I'm gonna enjoy it. Nah mate come on, the pricing is steep yeah but we aren't talking £150 a ticket here, if the demand was there it would sell out easily. He needs to go away for a while. I don't disagree that the demand isn't there but I'm not sure I put it down to just the fact he's been touring recently. I mean, when was the last time he played a UK show, August? I'd much rather have him releasing this music and playing a few showsn than disappearing for a few years – which he will be doing soon anyway. Why can't we just be happy that both brothers are busy and producing good stuff?
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Post by chamu on Feb 17, 2020 7:08:32 GMT -5
Liam selling out arenas in Amsterdam, Rome, Milan, Paris...and Noel struggling to sell out a hometown gig for 3,5k. Strange times.
Five years ago NOBODY would have imagined that
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Post by codyr on Feb 17, 2020 8:28:48 GMT -5
The last time I attended one of Noel's concerts was in may 2019 when he played the Palladium in London. Front row. I said to myself, that I won't see him again in the near future because it was great sitting/standing there and enjoying Oasis songs, his "old" solo stuff and some "meh" songs from his last album.
But when I lived in London I always enjoyed seeing shows at the Royal Albert Hall. One of the best venues worldwide. So I am gonna see him again in march and I'll try to take a picture with him at the artist entrance. But after this show I guess I am really done with him. You can't compare Liams's and Noel's gigs. It is great to see Gem and Chris with Noel but it would be so much better to see both of them on stage with Liam.
It makes sense for Noel to stop producing "music" for atleast a year or two. I don't think that he could sell out venues with more than 4/5.000 people outside of the UK right now.
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