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Post by Zingbot on Nov 8, 2019 10:26:40 GMT -5
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Post by mossy on Nov 8, 2019 11:19:43 GMT -5
Oh Noel, you have co-written songs. You just didn’t give credit...
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Post by blkc on Nov 8, 2019 12:42:50 GMT -5
I don't understand it as if he was saying "it's bad to co-write a song". He's clearly talking about the way major hits are made these days and he's not wrong. Many songs are made by people who have barely no interaction with each other, a lot of artist just aren't involved at all in the songwriting of their songs... It's "industrial" in some kind of way and that's why he say it's the end of art in my opinion. It's not saying that people collaborating to write a song is a bad thing in all case, he did wrote a song with Weller recently, or with Gorillaz... We all know he likes the idea that there's some magic in music, and when a song is made by so many different people, we lose this, at least that's what I think too. I really don't get what's the issue with him saying this, he always thought that way, he was always proud that Oasis was a band that wrote their own songs, blamed many bands and people for not doing so over the years... What he says in that interview is totally on the same line. Of course he took some stuff here and there, but never denied or tried to hide it, and we all know he wrote his songs on his own in the end. It's just nothing like 10 people collaborating on a song really
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Post by Lennon2217 on Nov 8, 2019 12:54:52 GMT -5
Those Lennon/McCartney fellas were hacks.
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Post by mossy on Nov 8, 2019 12:58:01 GMT -5
I don't understand it as if he was saying "it's bad to co-write a song". He's clearly talking about the way major hits are made these days and he's not wrong. Many songs are made by people who have barely no interaction with each other, a lot of artist just aren't involved at all in the songwriting of their songs... It's "industrial" in some kind of way and that's why he say it's the end of art in my opinion. It's not saying that people collaborating to write a song is a bad thing in all case, he did wrote a song with Weller recently, or with Gorillaz... We all know he likes the idea that there's some magic in music, and when a song is made by so many different people, we lose this, at least that's what I think too. I really don't get what's the issue with him saying this, he always thought that way, he was always proud that Oasis was a band that wrote their own songs, blamed many bands and people for not doing so over the years... What he says in that interview is totally on the same line. Of course he took some stuff here and there, but never denied or tried to hide it, and we all know he wrote his songs on his own in the end. It's just nothing like 10 people collaborating on a song really I was just taking the piss, I understand his point. That poor work experience kid who did the WAL drumbeat though... it’s the only track on the album without a plodding beat and no-one even knows his name. X
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Post by Zingbot on Nov 8, 2019 15:54:22 GMT -5
Oh Noel, you have co-written songs. You just didn’t give credit... Roast of the fucking year right here.
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Post by andymorris on Nov 9, 2019 3:39:45 GMT -5
100% spot on, we're back in the 50s/60s with cute faces and brains behind it. Only this time the music is shit.
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Post by freddy838 on Nov 9, 2019 4:53:41 GMT -5
I assume nobody has the balls to challenge him about WBTM or working with AA then knicking a couple of tunes for himself after dumping them.
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Post by The Boy Without the Blues on Nov 9, 2019 13:08:43 GMT -5
This is really sad to read, because it's clearly a jab at Liam...
He never had a problem with it, he even considered writing with some artists he admires. He does have plenty of reasons to be mad at his brother but to keep throwing this random jabs on co writing songs is just embarrassing
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Post by blkc on Nov 9, 2019 15:51:33 GMT -5
This is really sad to read, because it's clearly a jab at Liam... He never had a problem with it, he even considered writing with some artists he admires. He does have plenty of reasons to be mad at his brother but to keep throwing this random jabs on co writing songs is just embarrassing This is not about Liam, he's clearly talking about the way most "hits" and songs are made these days in general and about how the artistic vision is less and less important in the songmaking process... Noel always thought that bands and artists should write their songs, he's always been saying things like this. What's the point of trying to relate anything to Liam to add something else to the boring Liam vs Noel thing ? It's Noel, when he wants to say something about Liam, he just says it directly, he doesn't bother to imply something hoping some fan will interpret it as something that could apply to Liam... ^^
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Post by rebus on Nov 9, 2019 21:31:35 GMT -5
Marc Bolan called.
He wants his song back.
Wanker.
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Post by rebus on Nov 9, 2019 21:41:39 GMT -5
Neil Innes called.
He wants his song back.
Wanker.
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Post by rebus on Nov 9, 2019 21:42:03 GMT -5
Stevie Wonder called.
He wants his song back.
Wanker.
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Post by rebus on Nov 9, 2019 21:43:33 GMT -5
The Beatles called.
They want back everything you've ever stolen from them, Noel.
Wanker.
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Post by underneaththesky on Nov 9, 2019 22:03:28 GMT -5
who the fuck is Zingbot ? I've been here forever but I don't get why people change their names and many other things that also really don't matter anyway, so I'll just keep dreaming. and where the fuck is KALAS?
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Post by Zingbot on Nov 9, 2019 22:06:42 GMT -5
I'm a member. Have been for around a month. That's just my username. I don't know. Haven't changed it.
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Post by mossy on Nov 10, 2019 16:25:01 GMT -5
and where the fuck is KALAS? He’s on the run after a triple homicide. X
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Post by vespa on Nov 11, 2019 5:14:08 GMT -5
Clearly relating to the state of the charts today , hardly any artists in the charts write there own stuff and majority of output is terrible ..as for folk digging up David Holmes and AA they are producers for Noel not songwriters there’s a difference ..look at Ed Sheeran one track has about 12 writers same as adele ..there were rumours that even arctic monkeys first album was written by someone else ..taking samples isn’t co-writing
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Post by dadrocker on Nov 11, 2019 8:16:17 GMT -5
..there were rumours that even arctic monkeys first album was written by someone else Never heard this. Anything more on it?
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Post by Zingbot on Nov 11, 2019 8:19:37 GMT -5
The Real People called.
They want their entire discography back.
Wanker.
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Post by vespa on Nov 11, 2019 15:31:38 GMT -5
Around time of monkeys debut there were a lot of rumours it wasn’t the story they told about being found and that the album had massive help ,think even Jonny Burrell mentioned something about it
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Post by Diamond in The Dark on Nov 12, 2019 4:08:40 GMT -5
Noel “co-write” since 1994. He should shut up!!
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Post by rorymcbride on Nov 12, 2019 6:12:52 GMT -5
Around time of monkeys debut there were a lot of rumours it wasn’t the story they told about being found and that the album had massive help ,think even Jonny Burrell mentioned something about it I remember thinking this around the time it came out as every song was amazing. Then I thought "Ahhh they must've gotten help from their producer" and this was strengthened when I heard "Who The Fuck Are Arctic Monkeys" which suffers from being a bit under-produced (IMO) but then "Favourite Worst Nightmare" came out with a different producer and was just as good as the first album. So in conclusion, Alex Turner is amazing.
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Post by rorymcbride on Nov 12, 2019 6:13:48 GMT -5
This is really sad to read, because it's clearly a jab at Liam... He never had a problem with it, he even considered writing with some artists he admires. He does have plenty of reasons to be mad at his brother but to keep throwing this random jabs on co writing songs is just embarrassing He's said similar things in the past about being disappointed to find out that Jake Bugg (remember him?) wrote with professional writers and such hits as "(look up Jake Bugg song name #1)" and "(look up Jake Bugg song name #2)" weren't ripped from his soul.
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Post by mossy on Nov 12, 2019 7:11:19 GMT -5
Around time of monkeys debut there were a lot of rumours it wasn’t the story they told about being found and that the album had massive help ,think even Jonny Burrell mentioned something about it I remember thinking this around the time it came out as every song was amazing. Then I thought "Ahhh they must've gotten help from their producer" and this was strengthened when I heard "Who The Fuck Are Arctic Monkeys" which suffers from being a bit under-produced (IMO) but then "Favourite Worst Nightmare" came out with a different producer and was just as good as the first album. So in conclusion, Alex Turner is amazing. Most of the songs from the Arctic Monkeys’ debut album were floating around the internet as demos for 6+ months before the album came out too... X
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