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Post by cjfp on Oct 1, 2019 9:31:39 GMT -5
Does anyone think we could see a tour throughout the US anytime soon? After UK/Europe?
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Post by jeffrey on Oct 1, 2019 9:46:02 GMT -5
I surely hope so. Going to Dublin gig in November, but was planning on hitting another 3-4 gigs here stateside.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 1, 2019 9:50:27 GMT -5
Definitely considered, but based on record sales maybe reconsidered. Let’s see what the pr around The Who gigs and the tv show bring. There’s definitely a window.
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Post by jeffrey on Oct 1, 2019 10:05:31 GMT -5
Definitely considered, but based on record sales maybe reconsidered. Let’s see what the pr around The Who gigs and the tv show bring. There’s definitely a window. He could easily do the same type of tour as Fall 2017. Those were gigs were full and the ones I attended were rowdy as fuck. Hope he realizes that there are legitimate super-fans here that will travel to see him in the bigger cities. Will be HUGELY disappointed if he doesn’t. How can opening for The Who on a handful of dates help him? Nobody goes to those gigs to watch an opening act and the impact from Fallon can’t be that significant. In saying that, he should play something other than NTIFY for an American audience.
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Post by chamu on Oct 1, 2019 10:06:44 GMT -5
Definitely considered, but based on record sales maybe reconsidered. Let’s see what the pr around The Who gigs and the tv show bring. There’s definitely a window. How many sales did they expect with zero promotion there?? Maybe 99% US population doesn´t even know he has a new album out
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Post by Deleted on Oct 1, 2019 10:10:13 GMT -5
Definitely considered, but based on record sales maybe reconsidered. Let’s see what the pr around The Who gigs and the tv show bring. There’s definitely a window. He could easily do the same type of tour as Fall 2017. Those were gigs were full and the ones I attended were rowdy as fuck. Hope he realizes that there are legitimate super-fans here that will travel to see him in the bigger cities. Will be HUGELY disappointed if he doesn’t. It costs an incredible amount of money logistically, it’s a lot of work to just break even, when there are other countries where he could fill arenas. 2019 tour is on a much bigger scale than 2017, let’s hope the US demand is enough for it to happen.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 1, 2019 10:11:19 GMT -5
Definitely considered, but based on record sales maybe reconsidered. Let’s see what the pr around The Who gigs and the tv show bring. There’s definitely a window. How many sales did they expect with zero promotion there?? Maybe 99% US population don´t even know he has a new album out I agree, that’s another question to add to the list for Warner.
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Post by chamu on Oct 1, 2019 10:22:20 GMT -5
I´ve just checked and it´s out of Billboard Top 200 there. #21 on sales chart.
As You Were charted at #30 and #7 on sales chart.
Obviously, he spent a few days there in August 2017 with some small shows and TV&radio promotion. And the results are pretty clear
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Post by shannee on Oct 1, 2019 10:26:53 GMT -5
I think in the US people want Rock music out of LG, not pop. So I don’t know if this album will fill the shows
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Post by jeffrey on Oct 1, 2019 10:37:20 GMT -5
I think in the US people want Rock music out of LG, not pop. So I don’t know if this album will fill the shows This is an extremely ignorant post. Oasis’ biggest hits here were pop/rock...
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Post by DCUnited on Oct 1, 2019 10:46:59 GMT -5
I´ve just checked and it´s out of Billboard Top 200 there. #21 on sales chart. As You Were charted at #30 and #7 on sales chart. Obviously, he spent a few days there in August 2017 with some small shows and TV&radio promotion. And the results are pretty clear Yeesh. That's very bad not to chart
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Post by shannee on Oct 1, 2019 10:47:58 GMT -5
I think in the US people want Rock music out of LG, not pop. So I don’t know if this album will fill the shows This is an extremely ignorant post. Oasis’ biggest hits here were pop/rock... Oasis were always considered alternative rock in the US. Also calling someone extremely ignorant because you don’t agree with them makes you sound like a really asshole
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Post by jeffrey on Oct 1, 2019 11:14:17 GMT -5
This is an extremely ignorant post. Oasis’ biggest hits here were pop/rock... Oasis were always considered alternative rock in the US. Also calling someone extremely ignorant because you don’t agree with them makes you sound like a really asshole My response was that the post was extremely ignorant, not you. Liam/Noel have a cult following here and will get very few new fans as a result of their solo material. I contend that your label/opinion of what genre WMWN is, is irrelevant to who attends the shows. And by the way, this album has about the same ratio of “rock” songs as AYW.
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Post by ricardogce on Oct 1, 2019 11:17:23 GMT -5
I think in the US people want Rock music out of LG, not pop. So I don’t know if this album will fill the shows Oasis's biggest hit in America is a fucking acoustic ballad with a full string suite. They're hardly thought of as a hard rock band.
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Post by rpf1979 on Oct 1, 2019 11:27:01 GMT -5
I think in the US people want Rock music out of LG, not pop. So I don’t know if this album will fill the shows Oasis's biggest hit in America is a fucking acoustic ballad with a full string suite. They're hardly thought of as a hard rock band. Yeah, I remember in HS I was talking to some people about Oasis being on MTV unplugged in 1996 and they responded "Aren't all Oasis songs unplugged?" Now that's a very small sample size but gives you an idea about how they're viewed by some in the US. They know "Wonderwall" and that is it. I hope he does tour over here and at least hit some of the major cities even if it's a smaller tour. I haven't had the chance to see him since Oasis toured here in 2005 so I'd love to get the chance to see him again since it is close to 15 years now for me.
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Post by shannee on Oct 1, 2019 11:39:58 GMT -5
Very small sample size indeed lol. The people who only know wonderwall are obviously not filling the LG tour. I hope he does tour. I'm seeing him with the Who in a couple weeks and I saw him 5 times for As You Were. But the new album is MUCH more pop music oriented than the last and a million time more than Oasis has ever been. And there is a difference between an alternative-rock song becoming popular because of it's quality and universality and Pop music as a GENRE. In the UK I think Liam has many cross over fans who also listen to Pop. But I do not think there are that many in the US. Some sure, but not enough to fill out the entire tour. And I think the old school Oasis fans expect more rock music out of him. So we'll see. Will we all be motivated enough to hear the old Oasis songs to fly/drive to big cities? I don't think I can do it for this album unfortunately. Maybe once, but not 5 times.
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Post by rpf1979 on Oct 1, 2019 12:15:52 GMT -5
Very small sample size indeed lol. The people who only know wonderwall are obviously not filling the LG tour. I hope he does tour. I'm seeing him with the Who in a couple weeks and I saw him 5 times for As You Were. But the new album is MUCH more pop music oriented than the last and a million time more than Oasis has ever been. And there is a difference between an alternative-rock song becoming popular because of it's quality and universality and Pop music as a GENRE. In the UK I think Liam has many cross over fans who also listen to Pop. But I do not think there are that many in the US. Some sure, but not enough to fill out the entire tour. And I think the old school Oasis fans expect more rock music out of him. So we'll see. Will we all be motivated enough to hear the old Oasis songs to fly/drive to big cities? I don't think I can do it for this album unfortunately. Maybe once, but not 5 times. Yeah, I agree about Wonderwall only fans, I was mostly just sharing a personal story from my experience where they thought Oasis was always unplugged to show a comical view on how some see the band. But Oasis definitely has a loyal fanbase here in the states even if it is a lot smaller nowadays. The first time I saw Noel in 2015 it was a smaller crowd but it was full of diehard fans and I was surprised how rowdy it was. I hope Liam and Noel could both win over new fans here in the US, but at the same time my expectation is that a large majority of the ones that would go see them are fans of Oasis and have been for awhile anyway.
I hate saying it but rock, alternative rock or whatever form you want to use, almost seems to be dead in terms of mainstream in the US. There are some good newer rock bands out there but you have to dig harder to find them. Nowadays for award shows in the states it seems like they go, "Hey, let's grab the Foo Fighters for this award show since we can check off the 'Rock' category and people know who they are!" Man, I miss the 90's...
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Post by shannee on Oct 1, 2019 12:32:35 GMT -5
Oh I agree with you, it’s sad times for rock. I blame that on record companies more than bands. I’ve got to believe there are good bands out there. They are just not the easy money makers so record cos don’t push them. And this has led to less and less new bands being inspired and starting up I think. The popularity of Foos and NINs goes to show people are still hungry for that music. I saw social distortion and Flogging molly a couple weeks ago. People teens-late 40s were having so much fun. Reminded me of the 90s!
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Post by Derrick on Oct 1, 2019 12:55:30 GMT -5
How many sales did they expect with zero promotion there?? Maybe 99% US population don´t even know he has a new album out I agree, that’s another question to add to the list for Warner. Has there literally been zero promotion for WMWN in the US? I've been reading/watching Liam interviews on various media but didn't pay attention if they were from the UK, Ireland, Australia or the US. If they haven't done any promo yet maybe they're planning on doing it all when Liam heads over there to support the Who, but strange nonetheless they didn't attempt to boost initial sales when the album was released.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 1, 2019 13:11:49 GMT -5
I agree, that’s another question to add to the list for Warner. Has there literally been zero promotion for WMWN in the US? I've been reading/watching Liam interviews on various media but didn't pay attention if they were from the UK, Ireland, Australia or the US. If they haven't done any promo yet maybe they're planning on doing it all when Liam heads over there to support the Who, but strange nonetheless they didn't attempt to boost initial sales when the album was released. Not sure. I think the promo will come when he’s there putting it about 😀 and also hope for some good write ups in gig reviews. Haven’t The Who cancelled a few this week? Hope it all goes ahead as planned.
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Post by LSF on Oct 1, 2019 15:06:01 GMT -5
After listening to Jeff Slate on the Oasis Podcast, it kind of looks like he's getting stonewalled by lots of the press, which isn't going to help things. If he does tour it will be a small tour in small theaters.
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Post by Frodis on Oct 1, 2019 16:18:40 GMT -5
Betting if he does anything over here, it'll be small and quick. Like, handful of shows in major markets on east coast, repeat on west coast. Sprinkle Chicago in there somewhere.
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Post by Lennon2217 on Oct 1, 2019 16:29:35 GMT -5
Terminal 5 or it never happened.
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Post by Let It Bleed on Oct 1, 2019 16:35:17 GMT -5
I think in the US people want Rock music out of LG, not pop. So I don’t know if this album will fill the shows ¡You're in danger, girl, get out of this section, it's crazy! Thanks.
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Post by drummert5 on Oct 1, 2019 17:56:07 GMT -5
Haven’t The Who cancelled a few this week? Hope it all goes ahead as planned. Postponed 3 shows due to Daltrey losing his voice, based on how it went down it seems like a reaction to something in the air in Texas rather than illness, everyone’s expecting the shows with Liam starting on 10/9 to go ahead without incident.
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