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Post by shannee on Sept 24, 2019 12:31:36 GMT -5
Since this always comes out, in every thread, why don’t we just have a dedicated thread for it? It’s never going to end, no matter how much we try to suppress it so why not contain it. I know we have the playpen but that doesn’t seem to be the same thing. Just start a Liam vs Noel thread and flame away 😂
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Post by LlAM on Sept 24, 2019 12:50:15 GMT -5
If the two of you are planning on starting a flame war then take it somewhere else and don't derail this topic. I was replying to Oneofus 🙂 Thanks
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Post by LlAM on Sept 24, 2019 12:51:31 GMT -5
Holy Mountain was his second best chart run 😗😙😚😘 You're basing you're "no momentum" on a couple of obscure EPs that were never destined to be hits 🙂 Who Built The Moon was over all a success for him, considering he's moved out of his comfort zone 🙂 I'd love to have seen your comments if Noel had a song called "Glimmer" 😘 Dude If you haven't noticed that the mass majority of Oasis fans hate Noel's new stuff then dont know what to tell you. He still has some die hard and a hand full of new fans but in general most are not even paying attention to that silliness he is releasing..I have yet to meet someone in person that admits to liking it. Shhh... Don't derail this thread 😙
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Post by TheEyeballTickler on Sept 24, 2019 13:21:09 GMT -5
Can we just enjoy both brothers, thanks
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Post by oneofus on Sept 24, 2019 13:21:32 GMT -5
Whatever, you get the point...(hopefully) Noel will never outsell Liam moving forward. It doesn't matter what album he makes. He has become the sellout bad guy and the only way that changes is if he makes up with Liam. Noel is losing fans by the minute with his new direction. It is a low tier sound that only a selective group will accept (even tho it's really poor stuff) and his hardcore fans that will love him even if he makes children songs. I know alot of people that went to see Noel recently and said they wont go again unless he changes his setlists and musical direction. I don't know one person who loves Noel's new music. He was on a brilliant path after Chasing Yesterday but he took a hard right into shitsville. Plus his voice is getting worse, while Liam's has come back from the Dead. Noel has zero momentum. I don’t think you understand what the word sellout means... I could go on a serious rant but I’m gonna leave it alone because the people who know already know.
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Post by oneofus on Sept 24, 2019 13:22:08 GMT -5
Anyways let's get back to the charts...
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Post by LlAM on Sept 24, 2019 13:31:34 GMT -5
Anyways let's get back to the charts... Yes, how's it doing? Any updates? The MTV unplugged isnt being aired before Friday or am I mistaken? I reckon it'll boost his sales quite a bit based on the songs we've heard already.
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Post by thomaslivesforever on Sept 24, 2019 13:33:24 GMT -5
Noel will never outsell Liam moving forward. It doesn't matter what album he makes. He has become the sellout bad guy and the only way that changes is if he makes up with Liam. Noel is losing fans by the minute with his new direction. It is a low tier sound that only a selective group will accept (even tho it's really poor stuff) and his hardcore fans that will love him even if he makes children songs. I know alot of people that went to see Noel recently and said they wont go again unless he changes his setlists and musical direction. I don't know one person who loves Noel's new music. He was on a brilliant path after Chasing Yesterday but he took a hard right into shitsville. Plus his voice is getting worse, while Liam's has come back from the Dead. Noel has zero momentum. I don’t think you understand what the word sellout means... I could go on a serious rant but I’m gonna leave it alone because the people who know already know. You mean we already know what your rant is going to be?
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Post by Snail Mail on Sept 25, 2019 0:32:34 GMT -5
Not that difficult to get No.1 in the chart when the music is targeted towards the mainstream pop audience...
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Post by LlAM on Sept 25, 2019 0:52:02 GMT -5
Not that difficult to get No.1 in the chart when the music appeals to is targeted towards the mainstream pop audience... I totally agree with this. The songs and production are so obviously crafted and calculated to appeal to the masses that anything else than no 1 is a disappointment. I read somewhere here that Noels new direction is backing music for mum's in kitchens, but I reckon this is even more so, it's easy listening. In a good way 🙂
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Post by Snail Mail on Sept 25, 2019 0:59:15 GMT -5
Not that difficult to get No.1 in the chart when the music appeals to is targeted towards the mainstream pop audience... I totally agree with this. The songs and production are so obviously crafted and calculated to appeal to the masses that anything else than no 1 is a disappointment. I read somewhere here that Noels new direction is backing music for mum's in kitchens, but I reckon this is even more so, it's easy listening. In a good way 🙂 The people in Warner Records are not dumb and they know what they are doing. We both know what these people aim for...
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Post by Bonehead's Barber on Sept 25, 2019 1:19:09 GMT -5
I totally agree with this. The songs and production are so obviously crafted and calculated to appeal to the masses that anything else than no 1 is a disappointment. I read somewhere here that Noels new direction is backing music for mum's in kitchens, but I reckon this is even more so, it's easy listening. In a good way 🙂 The people in Warner Records are not dumb and they know what they are doing. We both know what these people aim for... I was staying at my parent's when 'This is the place' came out and mum informed me that it was 'absolute shite'. She was even in the kitchen when she heard it.
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Post by thomaslivesforever on Sept 25, 2019 1:26:11 GMT -5
Not that difficult to get No.1 in the chart when the music appeals to is targeted towards the mainstream pop audience... I totally agree with this. The songs and production are so obviously crafted and calculated to appeal to the masses that anything else than no 1 is a disappointment. I read somewhere here that Noels new direction is backing music for mum's in kitchens, but I reckon this is even more so, it's easy listening. In a good way 🙂 If the Beatles are your inspiration then it’s going to appeal to a few people. Liam likes 60’s/70’s Rock n roll, so do lots of others
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Post by LlAM on Sept 25, 2019 1:31:49 GMT -5
I totally agree with this. The songs and production are so obviously crafted and calculated to appeal to the masses that anything else than no 1 is a disappointment. I read somewhere here that Noels new direction is backing music for mum's in kitchens, but I reckon this is even more so, it's easy listening. In a good way 🙂 If the Beatles are your inspiration then it’s going to appeal to a few people. Liam likes 60’s/70’s Rock n roll, so do lots of others I hear what you're saying. I just think the way the songs are crafted is very calculated and safe. What I mean by that is the backing tracks are kept at a bare minimum, no kitchen sinks, ad libs or complicated intros. Does it work commercially? Hell yes!
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Post by Snail Mail on Sept 25, 2019 1:38:48 GMT -5
The people in Warner Records are not dumb and they know what they are doing. We both know what these people aim for... I was staying at my parent's when 'This is the place' came out and mum informed me that it was 'absolute shite'. She was even in the kitchen when she heard it. Poor her. I guess you should introduce her to more music. Be a good boy
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Post by thomaslivesforever on Sept 25, 2019 2:00:18 GMT -5
If the Beatles are your inspiration then it’s going to appeal to a few people. Liam likes 60’s/70’s Rock n roll, so do lots of others I hear what you're saying. I just think the way the songs are crafted is very calculated and safe. What I mean by that is the backing tracks are kept at a bare minimum, no kitchen sinks, ad libs or complicated intros. Does it work commercially? Hell yes! If you think that fair enough, I don’t think they are calculated I just think they are 3 1/2 minute rock n roll songs influenced by an era full of those. I don’t really understand how you can say the backing tracks are kept to a bare minimum, the songs are short but the production is lush.
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Post by LlAM on Sept 25, 2019 2:12:01 GMT -5
I hear what you're saying. I just think the way the songs are crafted is very calculated and safe. What I mean by that is the backing tracks are kept at a bare minimum, no kitchen sinks, ad libs or complicated intros. Does it work commercially? Hell yes! If you think that fair enough, I don’t think they are calculated I just think they are 3 1/2 minute rock n roll songs influenced by an era full of those. I don’t really understand how you can say the backing tracks are kept to a bare minimum, the songs are short but the production is lush. I struggle to remember a good piece of instrumental music besides the outro on One Of Us. This is what I mean by bare minimum. Which is ok, it's just my observation.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 25, 2019 2:14:00 GMT -5
If you think that fair enough, I don’t think they are calculated I just think they are 3 1/2 minute rock n roll songs influenced by an era full of those. I don’t really understand how you can say the backing tracks are kept to a bare minimum, the songs are short but the production is lush. I struggle to remember a good piece of instrumental music besides the outro on One Of Us. This is what I mean by bare minimum. Which is ok, it's just my observation. The aggressive strings in the “I wanna hear you beg me” part of Gone are quite something.
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Post by liamsparka on Sept 25, 2019 4:27:56 GMT -5
People need to stop comparing previous years, its a completely different market year on year ......a more useful reference is Sam Fender an artist for this era and hugely critically acclaimed etc sold 41k to get to No1 last week .....so Liams figures for half a week look pretty strong
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Post by neila83 on Sept 25, 2019 11:09:17 GMT -5
No intention to start a flame war, just trying (probably in vain) to show how ridiculous a lot of stuff posted on the other side of the forum has been for the last couple of years.
I'm glad we can all agree on that now. I'm assuming the posts by oneofus are satire, in which case, not a bad effort.
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Post by Frank Lee Vulgar on Sept 25, 2019 11:39:39 GMT -5
Not that difficult to get No.1 in the chart when the music is targeted towards the mainstream pop audience... That plus the household name, yeah. Happy Liam did it anyway, even if the music could be better. Btw @your name and avatar, Pristine is easily one of the best tracks of the decade.
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Post by chamu on Sept 25, 2019 11:48:18 GMT -5
Back to the topic: Wednesday Update
60,093k. So it should end first week with around 70k
The Official Charts Company Midweek Sales Flash is in, and Liam Gallagher has passed the 60,000 sales mark for Why Me? Why Not.
As You Were topped 100,000 units in its first week in 2017, and Gallagher’s follow-up posts a total of 60,093 for the week so far. Keane have reached a milestone of their own at No.2 with Cause And Effect (20, 628 sales), while Post Malone is at No.3 with Hollywood’s Bleeding (9,378 sales). Blink 182’s Nine (8,035 sales) and Sam Fender’s Hypersonic Missiles (7,847 sales) complete the Top 5.
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Post by Lennon2217 on Sept 25, 2019 12:12:36 GMT -5
No intention to start a flame war, just trying (probably in vain) to show how ridiculous a lot of stuff posted on the other side of the forum has been for the last couple of years. I'm glad we can all agree on that now. I'm assuming the posts by oneofus are satire, in which case, not a bad effort. There was always gonna be a drop off between album 1 and album 2. Just like many of us said for Noel. Never doubt debut album excitement. It’s hard to maintain with future releases. Happens to everyone.
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Post by GlastoEls on Sept 25, 2019 12:32:14 GMT -5
No intention to start a flame war, just trying (probably in vain) to show how ridiculous a lot of stuff posted on the other side of the forum has been for the last couple of years. I'm glad we can all agree on that now. I'm assuming the posts by oneofus are satire, in which case, not a bad effort. There was always gonna be a drop off between album 1 and album 2. Just like many of us said for Noel. Never doubt debut album excitement. It’s hard to maintain with future releases. Happens to everyone. Ahem. Apart from Oasis!
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Post by Rolo on Sept 25, 2019 13:52:26 GMT -5
Any chance of Liam having a second week at no.1? Can't see anything particularly big being released next week either?
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