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Post by mossy on Sept 13, 2019 6:07:31 GMT -5
Another reason he probably likes DBTT is he got his second number one single with his vocals from it (The Importance Of Being Idle). He still plays it now.
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Post by frjdoasis on Sept 13, 2019 6:44:58 GMT -5
This is the biggest lie I have ever read.
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Post by martinpaul on Sept 13, 2019 7:31:06 GMT -5
Also coming from Seattle, what he said about Live Forever is exactly what made me love Oasis. Given to Fly > Live Forever X 100 - it's not even a debate surely?
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Post by martinpaul on Sept 13, 2019 7:34:53 GMT -5
Noel is like a modern day politician. Lying every other word, slagging anyone and everyone off, not caring about the 'ordinary or normal' people and living in his own vacuum that he probably actually believes his own bullshit because he is surrounded by people who are scared to disagree with him
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Post by Mr. Bigglesworth on Sept 13, 2019 8:12:36 GMT -5
I hope its a shit translation otherwise I can't handle this utter bullshit he tells^^
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Post by janek108 on Sept 13, 2019 8:33:08 GMT -5
When I think about how Beady Eye ended, I can imagine Chris & Gem not wanting to play in a band with Liam again
Just saying
Also - It's ultra sad that almost everything Liam does is or seems to be aimed at Noel. That joke isn't funny anymore. It doesn't fit the spirit of Oasis songs at all! John Lennon was smart enough to release just one song about his feud with McCartney - 'How do you sleep'. He knew listeners don't want or need any more of that. I'd love to hear Liam singing lyrics like Songbird again, or Cigarettes & Alcohol. Who's the real egomaniac here??? It's ok to sing about yourself, but do it the way people can relate to it with their own lives. I don't have a brother who said we'll live forever. And i don't have anyone to ask "did you shoot your gun" luckly. It says nothing to me about my life.
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Post by joladella on Sept 13, 2019 8:40:46 GMT -5
When I think about how Beady Eye ended, I can imagine Chris & Gem not wanting to play in a band with Liam again Just saying Also - It's ultra sad that almost everything Liam does is or seems to be aimed at Noel. That joke isn't funny anymore. It doesn't fit the spirit of Oasis songs at all! John Lennon was smart enough to release just one song about his feud with McCartney - 'How do you sleep'. He knew listeners don't want or need any more of that. I'd love to hear Liam singing lyrics like Songbird again, or Cigarettes & Alcohol. Who's the real egomaniac here??? It's ok to sing about yourself, but do it the way people can relate to it with their own lives. I don't have a brother who said we'll live forever. And i don't have anyone to ask "did you shoot your gun" luckly. It says nothing to me about my life. Well, they wanted to be in a band with Noel again after the way how Oasis ended, Noel walking out on them literally five minutes before a gig.
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Post by El Auténtico Dios on Sept 13, 2019 8:46:59 GMT -5
Bonehead was a blur guitarist It's kinda funny how from his perspective he's a Saint who only write great songs Gemini
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Post by Deleted on Sept 13, 2019 9:05:02 GMT -5
When I think about how Beady Eye ended, I can imagine Chris & Gem not wanting to play in a band with Liam again I'm not so sure Liam would be that eager to be in a band with them either... Liam was asked who would he want in Oasis reunion and he mentioned Guigsy, Bonehead and Alan White.
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Post by blkc on Sept 13, 2019 9:23:23 GMT -5
When I think about how Beady Eye ended, I can imagine Chris & Gem not wanting to play in a band with Liam again Just saying Also - It's ultra sad that almost everything Liam does is or seems to be aimed at Noel. That joke isn't funny anymore. It doesn't fit the spirit of Oasis songs at all! John Lennon was smart enough to release just one song about his feud with McCartney - 'How do you sleep'. He knew listeners don't want or need any more of that. I'd love to hear Liam singing lyrics like Songbird again, or Cigarettes & Alcohol. Who's the real egomaniac here??? It's ok to sing about yourself, but do it the way people can relate to it with their own lives. I don't have a brother who said we'll live forever. And i don't have anyone to ask "did you shoot your gun" luckly. It says nothing to me about my life. I agree that Gem and Chris may not be as happy with the way things end up with Liam than some people think here. Andy was leaving for Ride, ok, but these two were loyal to Liam, and I'm sure that they would have stick with him if he had choosed to keep going one way or another. They were left with nothing and didn't had a word to say in the decision. But it's all speculation in the end, none of us know how it really happened... No one here can speak for them, and no one here can conclude anything, we just don't know. I also agree with you about Liam lyrics, it's one of my main issue with his stuff, I don't want songs about their feud or relationship or their private life. I don't care about that. It's all just my opinion of course, but to me, I feel as if I was listening a Liam interview or his twitter with a musical background. And I don't want that at all. Solving personal issues in a public place is something I can't understand, doing it in songs is even worse to me. That's why I'm much more into Noel. He leaves space for imagination, you can make your own story out of his songs and relate it to your personal life. When Liam make songs about Noel, his ex wife or whatever, it just kills everything for me sadly, to me it lacks subtility, it's way too obvious and I already know what he thinks, he's already saying it in every interview for years now... It's all down to how we relate to music in the end, I don't like it, but I see that many people do enjoy it so who would I be to say that he shouldn't ? Some people can't stand "political" songs, some can't stand other things and etc... As long as people are getting pleasure out of a song, it's alright. ]I'm not so sure Liam would be that eager to be in a band with them either... Liam was asked who would he want in Oasis reunion and he mentioned Guigsy, Bonehead and Alan White. Considering the situation between the brothers, I'm convinced that he's just unhappy to see them in Noel's band. I do hope that it will not last, Gem and Chris really did nothing wrong, they weren't as rich or famous than him, they had to work and couldn't just wait at home waiting for him ^^
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Post by DCUnited on Sept 13, 2019 15:09:16 GMT -5
LG tweet storm any day now.....
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Post by batfink30 on Sept 13, 2019 15:13:38 GMT -5
DBTT was bang avarage.
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Post by Aman on Sept 13, 2019 16:43:55 GMT -5
3 great albums lol.
Then names DBTT.
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Post by Nyron Nosworthy on Sept 14, 2019 9:20:44 GMT -5
Often wonder about Liam's relationship with Andy, Gem and Chris. On one hand: - They seemed very close in Beady Eye
- In the early days of Beady Eye Paul Weller said it was telling how the band stuck with Liam not Noel, and he's supposed to be Noel's big mate
- Andy has tweeted Liam a few times which suggests they're still on good terms, and obviously gave the interview a few years ago about Noel lying
On the other hand: - Noel has alluded to a fallout quite a few times
Liam talks about Bonehead and the original line-up all the time but never mentions Gem and Andy
- We know he ended Beady Eye by text because Andy wanted to rejoin Ride
Anyway, I don't think that's a bad interview with Noel, and I can understand his stance on Liam and Oasis. Funny how he blames Liam for the Blur feud considering the Alex James "die of AIDS" thing.
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Post by The Escapist on Sept 14, 2019 9:56:30 GMT -5
I don't care what either of the brothers say about each other anymore, but Don't Believe the Truth is a great album? I wish. The Importance of Being Idle stands like the Burj Khalifa over the rest of the record.
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Post by freddy838 on Sept 14, 2019 11:19:03 GMT -5
Often wonder about Liam's relationship with Andy, Gem and Chris. On one hand: - They seemed very close in Beady Eye
- In the early days of Beady Eye Paul Weller said it was telling how the band stuck with Liam not Noel, and he's supposed to be Noel's big mate
- Andy has tweeted Liam a few times which suggests they're still on good terms, and obviously gave the interview a few years ago about Noel lying
On the other hand: - Noel has alluded to a fallout quite a few times
Liam talks about Bonehead and the original line-up all the time but never mentions Gem and Andy
- We know he ended Beady Eye by text because Andy wanted to rejoin Ride
Anyway, I don't think that's a bad interview with Noel, and I can understand his stance on Liam and Oasis. Funny how he blames Liam for the Blur feud considering the Alex James "die of AIDS" thing. Andy, Gem and Chris all seem so laid back that I reckon they get on with both Liam and Noel. It seemed that it was only the brothers who hated each other, the other guys were only interested in playing music and making a decent living. I don't know the timeline of it all but would Gem and Chris already have been with Noel before Liam's comeback, which nobody saw coming? Noel makes it sound like they've chosen him over Liam.
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Post by Lennon2217 on Sept 14, 2019 11:26:30 GMT -5
3 great albums lol. Then names DBTT. Reminds me of the late 90s when Noel was asked what his 3 best songs were. “Live Forever, Wonderwall and Magic Pie....”
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Post by Lennon2217 on Sept 14, 2019 11:29:49 GMT -5
Often wonder about Liam's relationship with Andy, Gem and Chris. On one hand: - They seemed very close in Beady Eye
- In the early days of Beady Eye Paul Weller said it was telling how the band stuck with Liam not Noel, and he's supposed to be Noel's big mate
- Andy has tweeted Liam a few times which suggests they're still on good terms, and obviously gave the interview a few years ago about Noel lying
On the other hand: - Noel has alluded to a fallout quite a few times
Liam talks about Bonehead and the original line-up all the time but never mentions Gem and Andy
- We know he ended Beady Eye by text because Andy wanted to rejoin Ride
Anyway, I don't think that's a bad interview with Noel, and I can understand his stance on Liam and Oasis. Funny how he blames Liam for the Blur feud considering the Alex James "die of AIDS" thing. Andy, Gem and Chris all seem so laid back that I reckon they get on with both Liam and Noel. It seemed that it was only the brothers who hated each other, the other guys were only interested in playing music and making a decent living. I don't know the timeline of it all but would Gem and Chris already have been with Noel before Liam's comeback, which nobody saw coming? Noel makes it sound like they've chosen him over Liam. Who knows the truth. The issues were never between Noel vs Andy/Gem/Random drummer or Liam vs Andy/Gem/Chris. It was always brother to brother combat. Everyone else was there for the ride. Let’s be honest Gem and Chris are basically session players over the last 20 years. Never gonna rock the boat. Andy was dangerously close to that to in the late 90s and probably had a lot of self doubt going well in the 00s. It’s gotta be difficult to be in Oasis post 1998. Oasis is essentially just the Gallaghers.
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Post by defmaybe00 on Sept 14, 2019 11:45:42 GMT -5
"In mine now we are four ex Oasis" Who is the 4th one? Mike toured with Oasis
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Post by oneofus on Sept 14, 2019 12:16:54 GMT -5
Whoever puts Standing on the shoulders ahead of DBTT talks more bullshit then Noel these days.
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Post by The Escapist on Sept 14, 2019 13:13:16 GMT -5
Whoever puts Standing on the shoulders ahead of DBTT talks more bullshit then Noel these days. I think Standing... is clearly better. Fuckin' in the Bushes, Go Let it Out, Who Feels Love, Where Did it All Go Wrong, Gas Panic, Roll it Over; there was the blueprint for a new darker, more intricate sound there. Don't Believe the Truth has Idle and some pleasant tunes, but it's half-baked and stacked with filler. Put One Way Road, Little by Little, and Let's All Make Believe on SOTSOG and you've got a fine debut for Oasis MkII. All you can get out of Don't Believe the Truth is a listenable semi-acoustic record.
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Post by Lennon2217 on Sept 14, 2019 13:46:53 GMT -5
Whoever puts Standing on the shoulders ahead of DBTT talks more bullshit then Noel these days. I think Standing... is clearly better. Fuckin' in the Bushes, Go Let it Out, Who Feels Love, Where Did it All Go Wrong, Gas Panic, Roll it Over; there was the blueprint for a new darker, more intricate sound there. Don't Believe the Truth has Idle and some pleasant tunes, but it's half-baked and stacked with filler. Put One Way Road, Little by Little, and Let's All Make Believe on SOTSOG and you've got a fine debut for Oasis MkII. All you can get out of Don't Believe the Truth is a listenable semi-acoustic record. They certainly had the ingredients to make DBTT a much much better album. Like always they picked (Noel) the lesser of the tunes to round it all out. My version slays. Turn Up The Sun Mucky Fingers Lyla Love Like A Bomb The Importance Of Being Idle Pass Me Down The Wine Stop The Clocks (Liam) Lord Don’t Slow Me Down Guess God Thinks I’m Abel Part of The Queue I Wanna Live In A Dream In My Record Machine (Liam) Boy With The Blues Now I know this has been done to death, the alt tracklist for DBTT, but fuck it. Here it is. I also realize that RM and STC ended up not being the world beaters Noel was promising them to be but they are miles and miles better than the alternatives. Plus I think Liam elevates both tunes.
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Post by The Escapist on Sept 14, 2019 14:05:24 GMT -5
I think Standing... is clearly better. Fuckin' in the Bushes, Go Let it Out, Who Feels Love, Where Did it All Go Wrong, Gas Panic, Roll it Over; there was the blueprint for a new darker, more intricate sound there. Don't Believe the Truth has Idle and some pleasant tunes, but it's half-baked and stacked with filler. Put One Way Road, Little by Little, and Let's All Make Believe on SOTSOG and you've got a fine debut for Oasis MkII. All you can get out of Don't Believe the Truth is a listenable semi-acoustic record. They certainly had the ingredients to make DBTT a much much better album. Like always they picked (Noel) the lesser of the tunes to round it all out. My version slays. Turn Up The Sun Mucky Fingers Lyla Love Like A Bomb The Importance Of Being Idle Pass Me Down The Wine Stop The Clocks (Liam) Lord Don’t Slow Me Down Guess God Thinks I’m Abel Part of The Queue I Wanna Live In A Dream In My Record Machine (Liam) Boy With The Blues Now I know this has been done to death, the alt tracklist for DBTT, but fuck it. Here it is. I also realize that RM and STC ended up not being the world beaters Noel was promising them to be but they are miles and miles better than the alternatives. Plus I think Liam elevates both tunes. Meh, still a mediocre album. Idle was the only properly good song they had in that era.
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Post by Headmaster on Sept 14, 2019 14:47:46 GMT -5
TIOBI clearly stands above the rest, but Lyla, Part of the Queue, GGTIA, MF and TUTS are all great songs too.
Too bad Sardy ruined most of the album, the best sounding songs are the ones he didn't produced, he ruined LLAB and LTBL, cool songs which needed more care in the studio.
Also Noel didn't help picking weak songs like A Bell Will Ring and The Meaning of Soul over better materials like Pass Me Down The Wine and Eyeball Tickler, also he completely discarded the amazing BWTB as a mere bonus track for the next album.
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Post by Lennon2217 on Sept 14, 2019 14:51:27 GMT -5
TIOBI clearly stands above the rest, but Lyla, Part of the Queue, GGTIA, MF and TUTS are all great songs too. Too bad Sardy ruined most of the album, the best sounding songs are the ones he didn't produced, he ruined LLAB and LTBL, cool songs which needed more care in the studio. Also Noel didn't help picking weak songs like A Bell Will Ring and The Meaning of Soul over better materials like Pass Me Down The Wine and Eyeball Tickler, also he completely discarded the amazing BWTB as a mere bonus track for the next album. We can only “blame” Sardy so much. At the end of the day it is Noel’s call on everything. We know he’s prone to mistakes. He’s like the music version of how Steve McQueen would pass on future box office glory all the time because he had “principles”. Missed roles include: Butch Cassidy and The Sundance Kid, Dirty Harry, French Connection, Close Encounters of The Third Kind And Apocalypse Now. The movies he passed on are better than the films he was actually in!
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