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Post by LoafAndDeath on Sept 24, 2019 17:37:05 GMT -5
Music reviews are a waste of time. They're a relic from the days when you actually had an opportunity cost of what to buy, "I'm going to the shop, what album shall I pick up, such and such is supposed to be good", now it's irrelevant, you can listen to any album you want at any time for free, as such the people reviewing the albums are essentially chimps writing something they think will get clicks because that's where the money comes from now, advertising, you no longer have to be able to create a review that if someone listens to an album on your recommendation they see where you were coming from otherwise they might not buy your magazine or paper again as no one buys media any more, we are the commodity. Same with most journalism, it's dead.
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Post by Snail Mail on Sept 25, 2019 0:24:32 GMT -5
I mostly disagreed with all the reviews here. Looks like music journalists are too afraid to lose their jobs or risk their reputation these days.
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Post by thomaslivesforever on Sept 25, 2019 1:21:55 GMT -5
I mostly disagreed with all the reviews here. Looks like music journalists are too afraid to lose their jobs or risk their reputation these days. Or they like it?
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Post by elephantstone93 on Sept 25, 2019 1:35:27 GMT -5
I mostly disagreed with all the reviews here. Looks like music journalists are too afraid to lose their jobs or risk their reputation these days. Or they like it? Some people can't take Liam releasing a good album. Bet they were buzzing when Beady Eye failed.
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Post by Snail Mail on Sept 25, 2019 1:37:18 GMT -5
Some people can't take Liam releasing a good album. Bet they were buzzing when Beady Eye failed. What if I told you that I prefer Beady Eye's second album to Why Me Why Not?
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Post by thomaslivesforever on Sept 25, 2019 1:47:39 GMT -5
Some people can't take Liam releasing a good album. Bet they were buzzing when Beady Eye failed. What if I told you that I prefer Beady Eye's second album to Why Me Why Not? No problem with that. Your assumption that reviewers are lying because they don’t agree with your opinion is shite though. Unless you can provide anything to back that up?
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Post by andymorris on Sept 25, 2019 2:15:22 GMT -5
I mostly disagreed with all the reviews here. Looks like music journalists are too afraid to lose their jobs or risk their reputation these days. Agreed. Since everything stays online forever, those guys are now very aware that they have to do a review that wont hurt anyone, now and in the distant future. Who can blame them though.. before the internet, it was written and forgotten really. But weirdly, it made a bigger impact because they really helped people decide what to get.
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Post by AubreyOasis on Sept 25, 2019 7:58:43 GMT -5
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Post by Mario on Sept 25, 2019 12:01:18 GMT -5
Music reviews are a waste of time. They're a relic from the days when you actually had an opportunity cost of what to buy, "I'm going to the shop, what album shall I pick up, such and such is supposed to be good", now it's irrelevant, you can listen to any album you want at any time for free, as such the people reviewing the albums are essentially chimps writing something they think will get clicks because that's where the money comes from now, advertising, you no longer have to be able to create a review that if someone listens to an album on your recommendation they see where you were coming from otherwise they might not buy your magazine or paper again as no one buys media any more, we are the commodity. Same with most journalism, it's dead. I give this post a 6.3/10
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Post by Lennon2217 on Sept 25, 2019 22:45:29 GMT -5
I mostly disagreed with all the reviews here. Looks like music journalists are too afraid to lose their jobs or risk their reputation these days. Agreed. Since everything stays online forever, those guys are now very aware that they have to do a review that wont hurt anyone, now and in the distant future. Who can blame them though.. before the internet, it was written and forgotten really. But weirdly, it made a bigger impact because they really helped people decide what to get. Yes mainly because it meant we the consumer had to drop money on an album in a record shop. Thats investing in a lot, the band, the album and the critics thoughts. But now in 2019 we can all listen to whatever album we want by whatever artist we want in 1 second. We don't need anyone giving us a preview or hot takes. We can all decide for ourselves instantly. Infinite content. Streaming evolution.
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Post by liammuc on Sept 26, 2019 3:27:54 GMT -5
How? I got the version from highresaudio.de which has the same mastering just in original 24 bit resolution and I think it sounds pretty decent. Still brickwalled like every Liam/Noel/Bead Eye/Oasis record but better than on "As you were" imo. HMSBaz first half of the record (and The River) is a pain to listen to on quality equipement. More so than any other recording by a Gallagher. Why Me why not marks the spot for me, after that, it's way better. But the first tracks are an absolute mess, brickwalled to the max, compressed to the max. I got the Flac version and it's really, really bad up until WMWN. When you switch to regular headphone the difference is slim and it's not that a mess, so i guess it was intended. Have you listened to the record on big floor speakers or only on headphones? Because for me it sounds way better on speakers. I have to fiddle around with the settings of my receiver but I get a pretty good sound out of it. As stated before "As you were" sounds worse on my equipment. It's a shame that no artist cares about how the music is mastered and released in the end. I bet the whole record sounds amazing after the mixing stage before all the limiters and compressors are used to make it as loud as possible. So people have to buy the vinyl for better dynamic range. It's sad.
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Post by andymorris on Sept 26, 2019 8:06:31 GMT -5
HMSBaz first half of the record (and The River) is a pain to listen to on quality equipement. More so than any other recording by a Gallagher. Why Me why not marks the spot for me, after that, it's way better. But the first tracks are an absolute mess, brickwalled to the max, compressed to the max. I got the Flac version and it's really, really bad up until WMWN. When you switch to regular headphone the difference is slim and it's not that a mess, so i guess it was intended. Have you listened to the record on big floor speakers or only on headphones? Because for me it sounds way better on speakers. I have to fiddle around with the settings of my receiver but I get a pretty good sound out of it. As stated before "As you were" sounds worse on my equipment. It's a shame that no artist cares about how the music is mastered and released in the end. I bet the whole record sounds amazing after the mixing stage before all the limiters and compressors are used to make it as loud as possible. So people have to buy the vinyl for better dynamic range. It's sad. Not heard it yet on speakers, i've only got some A5 from Bower and Wilkins. Heard the record on BW PX so far on FLAC, and yeah, i dont know why, the first tracks are really hard to listen to. As for the rest, i suppose Liam doesn't care or doesn't decide who does what. But indeed, that is weird since the original recording behind it seems pretty good.
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Post by liammuc on Sept 27, 2019 8:33:00 GMT -5
Have you listened to the record on big floor speakers or only on headphones? Because for me it sounds way better on speakers. I have to fiddle around with the settings of my receiver but I get a pretty good sound out of it. As stated before "As you were" sounds worse on my equipment. It's a shame that no artist cares about how the music is mastered and released in the end. I bet the whole record sounds amazing after the mixing stage before all the limiters and compressors are used to make it as loud as possible. So people have to buy the vinyl for better dynamic range. It's sad. Not heard it yet on speakers, i've only got some A5 from Bower and Wilkins. Heard the record on BW PX so far on FLAC, and yeah, i dont know why, the first tracks are really hard to listen to. As for the rest, i suppose Liam doesn't care or doesn't decide who does what. But indeed, that is weird since the original recording behind it seems pretty good. Most brickwalled records sounds pretty harsh on headphones. They sound a lot better on speakers. The reason I like this record better than the last one is because the vocals are not as "hot". I am a little sensitive to sibilant vocals and they mastered the vocals on "As you were" way too hot for my taste. If you compare "Once" and "Now That I've Found You" with "Bold" and "Paper Crown" - I take the sound of the new songs any day - but that is just my taste. I never understood why they have to brickwall the shit out of a quality acoustic performance anyway.
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Post by andymorris on Sept 27, 2019 11:04:10 GMT -5
Not heard it yet on speakers, i've only got some A5 from Bower and Wilkins. Heard the record on BW PX so far on FLAC, and yeah, i dont know why, the first tracks are really hard to listen to. As for the rest, i suppose Liam doesn't care or doesn't decide who does what. But indeed, that is weird since the original recording behind it seems pretty good. Most brickwalled records sounds pretty harsh on headphones. They sound a lot better on speakers. The reason I like this record better than the last one is because the vocals are not as "hot". I am a little sensitive to sibilant vocals and they mastered the vocals on "As you were" way too hot for my taste. If you compare "Once" and "Now That I've Found You" with "Bold" and "Paper Crown" - I take the sound of the new songs any day - but that is just my taste. I never understood why they have to brickwall the shit out of a quality acoustic performance anyway. I think they dont care and just brickwall the whole thing, acoustic or not. Problem is ever since i bought those PX i cant use speakers anymore. They are so, so good i feel like i'm gonna miss something if i use speakers now It's like you're in the record with those headphones.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 27, 2019 11:14:46 GMT -5
They're a relic from the days when you actually had an opportunity cost of what to buy, "I'm going to the shop, what album shall I pick up, such and such is supposed to be good", now it's irrelevant, you can listen to any album you want at any time for free Excellent observation tbf
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Post by Grenskyda on Sept 28, 2019 10:57:39 GMT -5
Does anybody else think the production is absolutely lame on this album? The new songs that he performed at unplugged really came alive after watching it last night.
For example, “Now That I’ve Found You” album version has a dreadfully edited vocal that really takes away from the song.
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Post by Lennon2217 on Sept 28, 2019 11:03:00 GMT -5
Does anybody else think the production is absolutely lame on this album? The new songs that he performed at unplugged really came alive after watching it last night. For example, “Now That I’ve Found You” album version has a dreadfully edited vocal that really takes away from the song. I found that I like "For What Its Worth" a million times more than the generic studio version.
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Post by glider on Sept 28, 2019 11:18:01 GMT -5
I mostly disagreed with all the reviews here. Looks like music journalists are too afraid to lose their jobs or risk their reputation these days. This happens all the time with current film and television, so I agree this is something that happens in music as well. But, can you also consider the idea that they genuinely liked the album? Amongst fans here and abroad it's had positive reception and not everyone are shills.
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Post by ricardogce on Sept 29, 2019 22:01:19 GMT -5
I mostly disagreed with all the reviews here. Looks like music journalists are too afraid to lose their jobs or risk their reputation these days. Agreed. Since everything stays online forever, those guys are now very aware that they have to do a review that wont hurt anyone, now and in the distant future. Who can blame them though.. Pitchfork stand by their shit reviews, they simply publish "retrospective" ones when time proves them short-sighted.
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