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Post by oasisunited on Aug 7, 2019 15:19:28 GMT -5
He was on one of the first Late Late Show with James Cordon episodes in 2015 and was on Jim Jefferies Show on Comedy Central in 2018 (though that was a pre-recorded interview). Both were traditional interviews and he did not play any music. Yeah, I don't think he had ever done any actual stateside mainstream tv interviews prior to that aside from a brief segment on the proto-TRL "MTV Live" program in '97 plugging BHN. It seems like Americans in the entertainment biz have only recently caught on to the fact that he's funny as hell. Yeah, other than the odd MTV/VH1 sit down back in the 90's/early 2000's, he has never really done straight interviews on the major networks. Probably the most serious/expansive one he has done was for CBS's Sunday Morning show in 2017.
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Post by durk on Aug 7, 2019 15:58:06 GMT -5
i actually thought that was a nice, fun interview compared to a lot of the printed vitriol lately. for non-US people - this is pretty standard fare from late night network tv 'chat shows'
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Post by bt95 on Aug 7, 2019 17:48:36 GMT -5
Finally some funny Noel again. This was good! He's like this in most interviews. But people only see/read the clickbait clips and judge on that.
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Post by bt95 on Aug 7, 2019 17:49:01 GMT -5
Also, black and navy blue, Noel. Don't mix em, mate.
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Post by bt95 on Aug 7, 2019 17:58:09 GMT -5
Who owns the masters now? And why Noel gets them, because he wrote most of them? I have no idea how that works. I have no idea but he did have the publishing deal for Oasis' first three albums (if not the rest, I'm not sure). Noel earned money from his publishing deals in the 90s, as well as the royalties. Which is why he ended up with a lot more money. But, rightly so, they were his songs so he owned the intellectual property, I guess. I don't really know how these things work but guessing if you have the publishing rights then eventually it comes back round?
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Post by sjc8 on Aug 7, 2019 21:02:04 GMT -5
holy shit, the bitterness escaped him for the length of this interview. he seems likeable here
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Post by MONO on Aug 7, 2019 22:54:35 GMT -5
Who owns the masters now? I have no idea but he did have the publishing deal for Oasis' first three albums (if not the rest, I'm not sure). I don't really know how these things work but guessing if you have the publishing rights then eventually it comes back round? If it = the master rights, then: no. Master rights and publishing rights are two entirely different things.
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Post by frederickacquiesce on Aug 8, 2019 2:26:55 GMT -5
If he's gonna sell ALL the masters, a lot of unreleased stuffs should come out if in the right hands.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 8, 2019 2:45:10 GMT -5
He's like this in most interviews. But people only see/read the clickbait clips and judge on that. I feel some of the interviews he has done lately have been quite negative. And no, I didn't only read the clickbait parts. Both Liam and Noel are moody, they can be very likable and funny, or sound bitter/angry and say stupid stuff to get some headlines (and that's too easy for them because the press loves to report every insult they say).
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Post by bt95 on Aug 8, 2019 4:35:05 GMT -5
He's like this in most interviews. But people only see/read the clickbait clips and judge on that. I feel some of the interviews he has done lately have been quite negative. And no, I didn't only read the clickbait parts. Both Liam and Noel are moody, they can be very likable and funny, or sound bitter/angry and say stupid stuff to get some headlines (and that's too easy for them because the press loves to report every insult they say). It depends what questions he's asked. When the interviewers bring up Liam, he goes on a rant. Or when it goes to politics etc he'll say what he thinks. I don't agree with it and think he could hold his tongue, but generally in the interviews or vids where it's just casual nonsense he's as funny as he ever was really.
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Post by andymorris on Aug 8, 2019 4:47:02 GMT -5
Who owns the masters now? I have no idea but he did have the publishing deal for Oasis' first three albums (if not the rest, I'm not sure). I don't really know how these things work but guessing if you have the publishing rights then eventually it comes back round? If it = the master rights, then: no. Master rights and publishing rights are two entirely different things. Most probably Creation records or whoever bought their back catalogue has the masters now. So Sony.
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Post by bogaloo on Aug 8, 2019 5:11:34 GMT -5
I feel some of the interviews he has done lately have been quite negative. And no, I didn't only read the clickbait parts. Both Liam and Noel are moody, they can be very likable and funny, or sound bitter/angry and say stupid stuff to get some headlines (and that's too easy for them because the press loves to report every insult they say). It depends what questions he's asked. When the interviewers bring up Liam, he goes on a rant. Or when it goes to politics etc he'll say what he thinks. I don't agree with it and think he could hold his tongue, but generally in the interviews or vids where it's just casual nonsense he's as funny as he ever was really. Pretty much it, TBH. His recent interviews with Jo Wiley, Fearne Cotton or Chris Evans are prime examples of it.
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Post by MONO on Aug 8, 2019 5:24:23 GMT -5
If it = the master rights, then: no. Master rights and publishing rights are two entirely different things. Most probably Creation records or whoever bought their back catalogue has the masters now. So Sony. live4ever.proboards.com/post/1587362/thread
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Post by fartpanic on Aug 8, 2019 5:40:52 GMT -5
Maybe he can be the new James Corden?
loathed over here but seemingly funny and well liked over in Trump land. Perfect
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Post by andymorris on Aug 8, 2019 5:45:41 GMT -5
Which is a parent company to Sony. Is there any details of the deal that took place when the company was created, cant say i'm passionate enough to dig into those files. Since it was founded in 99, Noel and Liam probably own everything from SOTOSG and after but not before ?
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Post by MONO on Aug 8, 2019 7:01:30 GMT -5
Which is a parent company to Sony. Big Brother is not. And they own the masters of all Oasis albums.
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Post by unionpat on Aug 9, 2019 2:53:47 GMT -5
Which is a parent company to Sony. Big Brother is not. And they own the masters of all Oasis albums. It seems Noel has repeatedly stated in the past that he’s owns all of his music.
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Post by andymorris on Aug 9, 2019 3:12:05 GMT -5
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Post by aesthetic on Aug 9, 2019 9:04:01 GMT -5
If he's gonna sell ALL the masters, a lot of unreleased stuffs should come out if in the right hands. Clearly he is taking the piss about selling them. He's not that heartless, he'll save that stuff for his kids. Generational wealth innit. And I'd be surprised if he decides to release anymore stuff from the Oasis archives, who knows 5 years down the line, but I doubt it. He'll be pushing 60 then, he'll probably be even more alienated from the Oasis thing.
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Post by oasisunited on Aug 9, 2019 9:25:58 GMT -5
I did some digging as well and found a few posts from friend of the board David Jay on this and, at least at the time of recording, the master tapes were owned by Sony. In fact, apparently, the North American release of DM on Epic has slightly different mixes made from the masters (news to me after all these years). It appears that the masters were literally shipped from England to the US for this mix. This was apparently done at the request of Sony. Plus, we know from sources such as Paolo Hewitt that the initial record contract that the band signed was with Epic/Sony, though Creation retained publishing/distribution rights in the UK. I'm pretty sure that Sony paid for the recording sessions, as I remember reading a quote from Alan McGee where he said something like he had to convince Sony to pay for the second session after the first one was a disaster. This all points to Sony owning the masters, as they paid for the recording sessions. Now, is it possible that when Oasis completed the 6 album deal that the masters somehow transferred to Big Brother? Maybe, but I doubt it based on what Noel said the other day and the fact that I believe Familiar to Millions closed the door on the original contract (meaning that only about 7 years had gone by -- not enough time to recoup your money from the initial cost of recording those early albums).
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Post by andymorris on Aug 9, 2019 9:31:16 GMT -5
I did some digging as well and found a few posts from friend of the board David Jay on this and, at least at the time of recording, the master tapes were owned by Sony. In fact, apparently, the North American release of DM on Epic has slightly different mixes made from the masters (news to me after all these years). It appears that the masters were literally shipped from England to the US for this mix. This was apparently done at the request of Sony. Plus, we know from sources such as Paolo Hewitt that the initial record contract that the band signed was with Epic/Sony, though Creation retained publishing/distribution rights in the UK. I'm pretty sure that Sony paid for the recording sessions, as I remember reading a quote from Alan McGee where he said something like he had to convince Sony to pay for the second session after the first one was a disaster. This all points to Sony owning the masters, as they paid for the recording sessions. Now, is it possible that when Oasis completed the 6 album deal that the masters somehow transferred to Big Brother? Maybe, but I doubt it based on what Noel said the other day and the fact that I believe Familiar to Millions closed the door on the original contract (meaning that only about 7 years had gone by -- not enough time to recoup your money from the initial cost of recording those early albums). Thanx for the detailed info. Indeed that would be silly from Noel to say he does not own them if he owns them. Back then, Oasis was on top of the world so they probably negotiated something very interesting musically and financially with Sony, but in 99, majors like Sony were also still very powerful, so it only makes sense that they probably made a deal like this : do what you want with them, and we share the profit. It's basically easy money with no work from Sony and creative freedom with a good paycheck for Oasis. Win / Win situation. To me the only grey area is the records after the deal, so from SOTOSG onwards
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Post by oasisunited on Aug 9, 2019 9:34:34 GMT -5
I did some digging as well and found a few posts from friend of the board David Jay on this and, at least at the time of recording, the master tapes were owned by Sony. In fact, apparently, the North American release of DM on Epic has slightly different mixes made from the masters (news to me after all these years). It appears that the masters were literally shipped from England to the US for this mix. This was apparently done at the request of Sony. Plus, we know from sources such as Paolo Hewitt that the initial record contract that the band signed was with Epic/Sony, though Creation retained publishing/distribution rights in the UK. I'm pretty sure that Sony paid for the recording sessions, as I remember reading a quote from Alan McGee where he said something like he had to convince Sony to pay for the second session after the first one was a disaster. This all points to Sony owning the masters, as they paid for the recording sessions. Now, is it possible that when Oasis completed the 6 album deal that the masters somehow transferred to Big Brother? Maybe, but I doubt it based on what Noel said the other day and the fact that I believe Familiar to Millions closed the door on the original contract (meaning that only about 7 years had gone by -- not enough time to recoup your money from the initial cost of recording those early albums). Thanx for the detailed info. Indeed that would be silly from Noel to say he does not own them if he owns them. Back then, Oasis was on top of the world so they probably negotiated something very interesting musically and financially with Sony, but in 99, majors like Sony were also still very powerful, so it only makes sense that they probably made a deal like this : do what you want with them, and we share the profit. It's basically easy money with no work from Sony and creative freedom with a good paycheck for Oasis. Win / Win situation. To me the only grey area is the records after the deal, so from SOTOSG onwards Here is the exchange from David that I found in relation to this: Source: forums.stevehoffman.tv/threads/new-website-oasis-recording-info.263212/I haven't been able to find the Sound on Sound article that he refers to, but it is an interesting side note in all of this! Edit: Found the SOS article: www.soundonsound.com/techniques/25-productions-made-history#Top
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Post by aesthetic on Aug 9, 2019 9:53:02 GMT -5
the North American release of DM on Epic has slightly different mixes made from the masters Pretty big if true. Would be interesting to hear a comparison, if indeed it is noticeable to a plebs ears like mine.
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Post by oasisunited on Aug 9, 2019 9:55:15 GMT -5
the North American release of DM on Epic has slightly different mixes made from the masters Pretty big if true. Would be interesting to hear a comparison, if indeed it is noticeable to a plebs ears like mine. Agreed. I am not sure how true any of this is. However, David does have comparisons on his site of Slide Away, Live Forever and Whatever that shows differences. I have the North American copies of each, but CD's, not vinyl. I would think this would be more noticeable on the vinyl releases.
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Post by aesthetic on Aug 9, 2019 10:03:01 GMT -5
Agreed. I am not sure how true any of this is. However, David does have comparisons on his site of Slide Away, Live Forever and Whatever that shows differences. I have the North American copies of each, but CD's, not vinyl. I would think this would be more noticeable on the vinyl releases. Also this: I wasn't aware of that. I guess my Oasis nerdom leaves a lot to be desired.
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