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Post by Deleted on Aug 5, 2019 4:47:17 GMT -5
They’re The Waltons compared to the shite that goes on in a lot of families.
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Post by Rolo on Aug 5, 2019 4:49:48 GMT -5
The thread will go on for 15 pages because bt95 has to come back with a defensive reply to anything that is said negatively about Noel. People think he's a bit of a dick now, you're not going to change people's minds.
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Post by mancraider on Aug 5, 2019 4:52:47 GMT -5
I couldn't care less about the liam shit but this 'I'm too sophisticated for you all now'bollocks is embarrassing. Condescending twat.
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Post by bt95 on Aug 5, 2019 5:09:46 GMT -5
The thread will go on for 15 pages because bt95 has to come back with a defensive reply to anything that is said negatively about Noel. People think he's a bit of a dick now, you're not going to change people's minds. I'm having a discussion, it's what the forum is for. It's what the article is for because it's got people talking. Igotflair has raised exactly the same point that I have? Dig her out? So because you think he's a dick, everyone else should just not talk about it? I think Noel's a dick too. I also think Liam's a dick. I love them both for what they are and what they've given to me musically. And I love talking about it and having a discussion. I haven't listened to the new single yet but I will be able to in an about an hour and then afterwards I'll be able to talk about that
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Post by bt95 on Aug 5, 2019 5:10:52 GMT -5
They’re The Waltons compared to the shite that goes on in a lot of families. Half of my extended family on my mum's side is split. My best mate has just been cut out of his grandma's will so his cousins can get an extra 8% because he's pissed off about how she treated him after his mum died a few years back. So yeh, too true!
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Post by bt95 on Aug 5, 2019 5:13:29 GMT -5
What ? defend him of what ? Did he kill someone ? Is he on trial ? I'm just saying this is how an interview works, but seems like Noel should ask the question, answer them, publish them on his newspaper, if we're to follow what some people on here say. Listen man if you know that journalists from the guardian doesn't care about music than you won't do your first interview to promote your new single with them Unless all you care is making people talking about you and not about the music Who talks about Liam's music outside of the hardcore fanbase? Nobody! They like his style, his attitude and his humour. You can't have it both ways.
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Post by smash on Aug 5, 2019 5:16:13 GMT -5
A horrible little troll. There was a time when I read and listened to every interview he did but now if he was telling his life story in my garden I'd shut the curtains. I just have to say, this is one of the funniest things ive read in a long while. (And true too.)
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Post by draper on Aug 5, 2019 5:20:44 GMT -5
So he can't stand the voice that made his songs big. He sounds so bitter...
I understand the private stuff is bugging him a lot, and Liam texting his wife or kids is over the top. This is all out of order now. Should've made up a few years ago, wouldn't have been as bad as it is now.
It's none of our business anyway, but it's themselves that are talking about it online and in the press.
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Post by Rolo on Aug 5, 2019 5:32:06 GMT -5
The thread will go on for 15 pages because bt95 has to come back with a defensive reply to anything that is said negatively about Noel. People think he's a bit of a dick now, you're not going to change people's minds. I'm having a discussion, it's what the forum is for. It's what the article is for because it's got people talking. Igotflair has raised exactly the same point that I have? Dig her out? So because you think he's a dick, everyone else should just not talk about it? I think Noel's a dick too. I also think Liam's a dick. I love them both for what they are and what they've given to me musically. And I love talking about it and having a discussion. I haven't listened to the new single yet but I will be able to in an about an hour and then afterwards I'll be able to talk about that Of course you can talk about it but you don't have to defend every single point that's made against Noel, I just don't know why it bothers you so much. People are going to think what they want, there's no point wasting your time trying to change anyones mind. You seem like a good lad, I don't mean to dig you out, it's just every thread of this sort seems to go that way.
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Post by redvers on Aug 5, 2019 5:35:45 GMT -5
So he can't stand the voice that made his songs big. He sounds so bitter... I understand the private stuff is bugging him a lot, and Liam texting his wife or kids is over the top. This is all out of order now. Should've made up a few years ago, wouldn't have been as bad as it is now. It's none of our business anyway, but it's themselves that are talking about it online and in the press. That voice is gone and it's never coming back. As bt95 said, Liam slags off Noel's music and fans all day long and people lap it up. As soon as Noel does the same he's a grumpy old man. Noel puts GLIO in the set list and changes his sound up... people call it embarrassing. Liam trots out RNRS and MG and has a bunch of suits write a cynical DLBIA ripoff for him and it's the greatest thing since sliced shite
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Post by leron on Aug 5, 2019 5:40:51 GMT -5
So he can't stand the voice that made his songs big. He sounds so bitter... I understand the private stuff is bugging him a lot, and Liam texting his wife or kids is over the top. This is all out of order now. Should've made up a few years ago, wouldn't have been as bad as it is now. It's none of our business anyway, but it's themselves that are talking about it online and in the press. Liam trots out RNRS and MG and has a bunch of suits write a cynical DLBIA ripoff for him and it's the greatest thing since sliced shite When I read things like these I wonder if people know they're on an oasis forum
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Post by Rolo on Aug 5, 2019 5:45:03 GMT -5
So he can't stand the voice that made his songs big. He sounds so bitter... I understand the private stuff is bugging him a lot, and Liam texting his wife or kids is over the top. This is all out of order now. Should've made up a few years ago, wouldn't have been as bad as it is now. It's none of our business anyway, but it's themselves that are talking about it online and in the press. That voice is gone and it's never coming back. As bt95 said, Liam slags off Noel's music and fans all day long and people lap it up. As soon as Noel does the same he's a grumpy old man. Noel puts GLIO in the set list and changes his sound up... people call it embarrassing. Liam trots out RNRS and MG and has a bunch of suits write a cynical DLBIA ripoff for him and it's the greatest thing since sliced shiteWhat?
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Post by pliolite on Aug 5, 2019 5:57:37 GMT -5
The personal stuff, yeah, but call can't say a word about the music when he's putting out what he has recently. I've All I Need alone laughs in the face of what Noel just said. It's a better song than anything he can write now.
The slating of Liam for working with other writers always makes me laugh, cause that's what Liam has always done!! XD What Noel can't admit to himself is he just can't do it now, and would need to co-write himself.
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Post by martinpaul on Aug 5, 2019 6:13:38 GMT -5
He credits the producer David Holmes – “one of the biggest musical influences in my life”
So he's a massive influence but doesn't help with the writing, formation or structure of the songs?
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Post by martinpaul on Aug 5, 2019 6:15:36 GMT -5
The personal stuff, yeah, but call can't say a word about the music when he's putting out what he has recently. I've All I Need alone laughs in the face of what Noel just said. It's a better song than anything he can write now. The slating of Liam for working with other writers always makes me laugh, cause that's what Liam has always done!! XD What Noel can't admit to himself is he just can't do it now, and would need to co-write himself. My personal opinion is that Holmes does help Noel with his songs now (maybe if he didn't they would be a lot better) but the deal they struck at the start was Noel sole writing credit (for his ego, and narrative) Holmes down as a producer only.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 5, 2019 6:15:59 GMT -5
igotflair has raised exactly the same point that I have? Dig her out? So because you think he's a dick... I think Noel's a dick too. I also think Liam's a dick. I made a point about the promo and using a sad situation to their advantage. I don’t think they’re dicks, I try to find the best in everyone. It’s a fault I’m aware of and I’m working on it.
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Post by dennizz on Aug 5, 2019 6:18:12 GMT -5
i have no problem with Noel slagging off Liam but calling his fans unsophisticated is such a arrogant thing to say. Since he's making shitty elevator music his head has gone so far up his own arse it's sad. He completely forgot where his roots are, what made him big, and who made him big
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Post by dampcottage on Aug 5, 2019 6:20:41 GMT -5
On this idea of Noel co-writing, does anyone actually have any serious suggestions about who with?
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Post by eva on Aug 5, 2019 6:22:29 GMT -5
oh great, another one of these
can't wait to read 15 pages in 2 days
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Post by dennizz on Aug 5, 2019 6:22:40 GMT -5
On this idea of Noel co-writing, does anyone actually have any serious suggestions about who with? craig david
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Post by Gergely on Aug 5, 2019 6:26:07 GMT -5
OK, Noel, we get it. You hate Liam. You're the condescending twat and he's the unsophisticated, brutish bully (and another twat).
Let's move to music instead. FFS, both are coming off really badly when this shit is going and of course the media feeds it as well.
It's also kinda interesting to see Noel Gallagher branding something unsophisticated, since when was there sophistication in Noel's songwriting on a serious level? Of course he's a brilliant songwriter, but I never felt sophistication was one of his strengths.
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Post by andymorris on Aug 5, 2019 6:35:29 GMT -5
The personal stuff, yeah, but call can't say a word about the music when he's putting out what he has recently. I've All I Need alone laughs in the face of what Noel just said. It's a better song than anything he can write now. The slating of Liam for working with other writers always makes me laugh, cause that's what Liam has always done!! XD What Noel can't admit to himself is he just can't do it now, and would need to co-write himself. My personal opinion is that Holmes does help Noel with his songs now (maybe if he didn't they would be a lot better) but the deal they struck at the start was Noel sole writing credit (for his ego, and narrative) Holmes down as a producer only. I can't see how someone who does not touch an instrument in the studio, creating a sound or a melody, could be credited as a co-songwriter. Well unless you're called Liam Gallagher, obviously. Noel clearly explained the songwriting process, and it really just was producing. Some bands go in the studio with fully formed songs, some with half baked ideas, and you never see a producer asking for co-credit. It's... producing a record.
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Post by MONO on Aug 5, 2019 6:40:47 GMT -5
"He’s pulled off the incredible magic trick of making those Oasis songs sound weedy and thin." The truth is that, when it comes to live shows, most instrumentalists and background singers - like Noel - can easily be replaced and for most people it doesn't make much of a difference who's handling which instrument.
And that's why a Liam solo show is much more enjoyable for most Oasis fans than a gig from the former lead guitarist whose voice is clearly unable to cope with most of the output from his former band and whose guitar playing duty can easily be fulfilled by any other guy out there. Noel should realise that he's not the Jimi Hendrix of the 90s and that no one misses the sound of his guitar on an LG gig.
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Post by MONO on Aug 5, 2019 6:43:00 GMT -5
He credits the producer David Holmes – “one of the biggest musical influences in my life” So he's a massive influence but doesn't help with the writing, formation or structure of the songs? I'm sure he does but Noel is too business-minded to give him writing credits.
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Post by frogerz on Aug 5, 2019 6:43:12 GMT -5
I love Noel but you can tell Liam's success has got to him. I highly doubt if Liam was in Beady Eye Noel would be calling the music unsophisticated.
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