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Post by Deleted on Jun 26, 2019 8:09:52 GMT -5
This Wyatt geezer is his new Andy Bell.Thought he’d got rid of him ffs! I doubt the song goes anywhere else - it’ll just repeat what we’ve already heard. Bit of a plodder for me. Is this a Wyatt written song? He makes Andy Bell seem like John Lennon in terms of songwriting.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 26, 2019 8:11:29 GMT -5
I really wanted to like this but it just sounds like a boring plodder. Whoever produced this needs sacking too. Should have released Once, one of Liam's best songs ever. Just praying that they give Once a full video and proper release. Once will be the single released around the time of the album; to send it into the stratosphere. 💥
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The River
Jun 26, 2019 8:14:28 GMT -5
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Post by leron on Jun 26, 2019 8:14:28 GMT -5
This Wyatt geezer is his new Andy Bell.Thought he’d got rid of him ffs! I doubt the song goes anywhere else - it’ll just repeat what we’ve already heard. Bit of a plodder for me. Is this a Wyatt written song? He makes Andy Bell seem like John Lennon in terms of songwriting. Why all this hate ffs? He wrote wog, cbtm, paper crown, shockwave ecc What exactly did you expect?
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Post by seanrulesrh on Jun 26, 2019 8:17:03 GMT -5
Just listened to the clip. A bit of a letdown. Is that all Liam can do in terms of "H E A V Y"? I'm losing the hype little by little. Shockwave and The River are almost the same fucking song. There are almost 11 or 12 left unheard but if they're gonna sound like this I'll be listening to the album a week before it bores the shit out of me.
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Post by idleross on Jun 26, 2019 8:17:56 GMT -5
I'm liking the sound of that clip. Getting 'Dig Out Your Soul' Vibes from it. Liam's voice sounds incredible. Buzzing to hear the rest of the Song at Midnight!
Don't understand some of the negativity around it. It's not the full song, we don't know how the song's structure and progression goes yet.
I preferred 'Wall Of Glass' to 'Shockwave' as a Debut Single but this tune absolutely blinds 'Chinatown' as the 2nd Song we get to hear from a New Album. As many have mentioned before - This isn't a New Single with Physical Release & Video, it's just another slice of what's going to be a very tasty Record.
Production sounds a bit messy but that might be due to the quality of the rip
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Post by modxxii on Jun 26, 2019 8:18:17 GMT -5
This Wyatt geezer is his new Andy Bell.Thought he’d got rid of him ffs! I doubt the song goes anywhere else - it’ll just repeat what we’ve already heard. Bit of a plodder for me. Wyatt co-wrote: Wall of Glass, Paper Crown, Chinatown, Come Back to Me, Doesn't Have to Be That Way and Shockwave. He's NOT the new Andy Bell.
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Post by captaincrankshaft on Jun 26, 2019 8:18:30 GMT -5
This Wyatt geezer is his new Andy Bell.Thought he’d got rid of him ffs! I doubt the song goes anywhere else - it’ll just repeat what we’ve already heard. Bit of a plodder for me. Is this a Wyatt written song? He makes Andy Bell seem like John Lennon in terms of songwriting. I’m not 100% but I thought I’d heard it was written by him. Or co written or whatever. Reminds me of some of Bells ‘classics’
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Post by idleross on Jun 26, 2019 8:19:33 GMT -5
This Wyatt geezer is his new Andy Bell.Thought he’d got rid of him ffs! I doubt the song goes anywhere else - it’ll just repeat what we’ve already heard. Bit of a plodder for me. Is this a Wyatt written song? He makes Andy Bell seem like John Lennon in terms of songwriting. I'm pretty sure Andy Bell has never won an Best Original Song Oscar for his Co-Writing
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Post by Deleted on Jun 26, 2019 8:20:25 GMT -5
Is this a Wyatt written song? He makes Andy Bell seem like John Lennon in terms of songwriting. Why all this hate ffs? He wrote wog, cbtm, paper crown, shockwave ecc What exactly did you expect? Paper Crown was originally written for Miley Cyrus ffs Liam has one of the greatest voices in music, I truly believe that. This is why my expectations are high. So these Cyrus, Lily Allen song writers do not appeal to me for the greatest rock n roll star around. They destroyed Greedy Soul on the album with their shitty production. Rant over.
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Post by captaincrankshaft on Jun 26, 2019 8:21:00 GMT -5
Is this a Wyatt written song? He makes Andy Bell seem like John Lennon in terms of songwriting. Why all this hate ffs? He wrote wog, cbtm, paper crown, shockwave ecc What exactly did you expect? Hey I liked Shockwave - this is album filler unless the rest of it blows me away later on. Which I doubt.
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Post by The Milkman & The Riverman on Jun 26, 2019 8:21:28 GMT -5
Wasn't that the song that Liam was describing like super heavy, too heavy for the radio etc ?
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Post by mancraider on Jun 26, 2019 8:21:56 GMT -5
Why all this hate ffs? He wrote wog, cbtm, paper crown, shockwave ecc What exactly did you expect? Paper Crown was originally written for Miley Cyrus ffs Liam has one of the greatest voices in music, I truly believe that. This is why my expectations are high. So these Cyrus, Lily Allen song writers do not appeal to me for the greatest rock n roll star around. They destroyed Greedy Soul on the album with their shitty production. Rant over. I thought Dan Grech produced Greedy Soul?
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Post by funhouse on Jun 26, 2019 8:23:33 GMT -5
Sounds promising! Those guitars sound gritty, gives bit of a stoner rock-vibe almost. Shockwave sounded more polished, this is more like it imo. And to compare sound effects, those echoes following "shout" sounded way better than those awful "hey's" in Shockwave.
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Post by leron on Jun 26, 2019 8:24:55 GMT -5
Why all this hate ffs? He wrote wog, cbtm, paper crown, shockwave ecc What exactly did you expect? Paper Crown was originally written for Miley Cyrus ffs Liam has one of the greatest voices in music, I truly believe that. This is why my expectations are high. So these Cyrus, Lily Allen song writers do not appeal to me for the greatest rock n roll star around. They destroyed Greedy Soul on the album with their shitty production. Rant over. They have nothing to do with the production of greedy soul which was produced by Dan grech marguerat Maybe if you leave aside your prejudice on who wrote what and just enjoy the music it would be better P.s. Paper crown is an amazing tune
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Jun 26, 2019 8:26:34 GMT -5
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Post by fartpanic on Jun 26, 2019 8:26:34 GMT -5
I agree it's too early for hate but i also get the frustrations.
If i was Liam and I was paying for this kind of quality (filler or not) I'd be thinking I can do better than this.
The problem is Liam is of the mindset that all the success is down to the other writers and that won't change.
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Post by captaincrankshaft on Jun 26, 2019 8:28:10 GMT -5
Is this a Wyatt written song? He makes Andy Bell seem like John Lennon in terms of songwriting. I'm pretty sure Andy Bell has never won an Best Original Song Oscar for his Co-Writing Well he won that for Shallow by lady Gaga ffs!
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Post by fartpanic on Jun 26, 2019 8:29:41 GMT -5
Anyone else hearing Elephant by Tame Impala in the riff?
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Post by captaincrankshaft on Jun 26, 2019 8:32:24 GMT -5
There’s no hate here btw - I made a shit joke about him being the new Andy Bell that’s all. I don’t even know that Wyatt wrote The River!
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Post by captaincrankshaft on Jun 26, 2019 8:36:14 GMT -5
It’s just it reminds me of Turn Up The Sun, Nature Of Reality (fucking shite) and one of AB’s off BE
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Post by MONO on Jun 26, 2019 8:36:19 GMT -5
P.s. Paper crown is a piece of shit FIFY
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The River
Jun 26, 2019 8:45:01 GMT -5
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Post by AubreyOasis on Jun 26, 2019 8:45:01 GMT -5
This Wyatt geezer is his new Andy Bell.Thought he’d got rid of him ffs! I doubt the song goes anywhere else - it’ll just repeat what we’ve already heard. Bit of a plodder for me. Is this a Wyatt written song? He makes Andy Bell seem like John Lennon in terms of songwriting. Actually Andy Bell is a good songwriter. Check the last Ride album. I think the problem was that while at Oasis and BE, Andy was under pressure to write Oasis-like anthems and, although some of his attempts were pretty good, that's not what he does best. These Wyatt and Kurstin guys apparently can write decent songs in any style, and I guess that is why so many people want to work with them, but it is true that some magic is Lost when you know songs were created that way
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Post by Deleted on Jun 26, 2019 8:45:50 GMT -5
This does remind me of The Nature of Reality.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 26, 2019 8:47:11 GMT -5
Sounds really good!
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Post by Deleted on Jun 26, 2019 8:50:05 GMT -5
I don't know why people care what others think of a song. If you think it's great then it's great. All that matters is what sounds good to your ears. Every song in the world will sound bad to some people.
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Post by thomaslivesforever on Jun 26, 2019 8:55:46 GMT -5
I agree it's too early for hate but i also get the frustrations. If i was Liam and I was paying for this kind of quality (filler or not) I'd be thinking I can do better than this. The problem is Liam is of the mindset that all the success is down to the other writers and that won't change. Sooner or later you’ll have to accept that Liam is not a prolific songwriter as he has said many times himself. He wants to work and get out playing, not sit in house for a decade waiting to cobble together enough tunes to make a good album. Really your complaints are the same as before we even heard a note of music. They will be the same when the album comes out. If you don’t like the songs or songwriters Liam is using then you may be wasting your time.
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