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Post by endstation on Jun 14, 2019 10:25:59 GMT -5
all music videos are nonsense! the golden age was the 90s maybe it'd be best if he releases the music video before the song is out, so the novelty is there and it will attract more views. the song is out, I have it on spotify, on my phone, on the radio, whatever. I don't need to see the video more than once, even if it's a fantastic piece of storytelling Not you. Again, I'm talking about NEW fans. Please...
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Post by eva on Jun 14, 2019 10:28:00 GMT -5
all music videos are nonsense! the golden age was the 90s maybe it'd be best if he releases the music video before the song is out, so the novelty is there and it will attract more views. the song is out, I have it on spotify, on my phone, on the radio, whatever. I don't need to see the video more than once, even if it's a fantastic piece of storytelling Not you. Again, I'm talking about NEW fans. Please... am I bothering you? you seem like a nice chap
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Post by endstation on Jun 14, 2019 10:28:25 GMT -5
This is about making Liam's music more popular, not about what's ''enough'' for you or for me. We will listen to Liam's music even if the music video was about Liam walking around in a Stone Island parka making pistol signs with his hands... oh, wait... By the way, are you the person who calls/views herself as ''bootleg queen'', but still got annoyed when I asked if someone could record LG's debut concert a week ago or so? If so, next time you write a post, I guess you might use your brain first. You seem like a retarded person. Everyone’s entitled to an opinion about songs and videos but now you’re just being an ass I plead guilty.
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Post by endstation on Jun 14, 2019 10:30:52 GMT -5
Not you. Again, I'm talking about NEW fans. Please... am I bothering you? you seem like a nice chap No, but the thread was meant to be about making Liam's videos and songs more popular, not about making hardcore fans like the video more. But I guess I wasn't clear enough in my original post.
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Post by Bonehead's Barber on Jun 14, 2019 10:35:43 GMT -5
Music videos are pointless, and I say that as a man who is best mates with someone who is a BIG deal in the music video industry. Oasis videos were crap, with the exception of TIOBI.
They have gained some sort of infamy now due to that NG clip from Time Flies.
That being said, though, I agree with the OP. If Liam made a GOOD video or maybe a funny one, he would attract more views and fans. Noel tried it with the TBOTMI, but ultimately that video was still just him playing live.
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Post by eva on Jun 14, 2019 10:35:46 GMT -5
am I bothering you? you seem like a nice chap No, but the thread was meant to be about making Liam's videos and songs more popular, not about making hardcore fans like the video more. But I guess I wasn't clear enough in my original post. if you release the video before the song, more people are going to take a look. I thought my post was clear. Liam's kind of music is not popular in the current music scene. and thank god about that if you want a video to be popular have a colaboration with a raggeaton shit singer and have a bunch of girls dance in bikini and there you go. popular, tons of views and a lot of new fans! yay
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Post by dominik1291 on Jun 14, 2019 10:36:43 GMT -5
The more I read some posts here again after few years, the more I think that some Liam/Noel fans are full of shiiite.
How many more threads we need like this where you can say how much you hate Liam voice, Liam vid etc?
Let us enjoy the moment. Few years ago it was hard to believe this Legend will be able to sing even one song amazingly and a thought that he might make some nice solo albums/singles was crazy. I've been reading many reviews of this vid and guess... the worst are from "Oasis fanbase" here.
It's just a video guys, kinda connected with Lennon antiwar style. It's finally something new, bigger budget, some new ideas, nice Ashcroft "b-symphony" throwback.
There are lot of people enjoying this vid as well as this song and some of them are not even Oasis fans and they will watch it more than one time.
So get your sh*it together, write one or 2 posts how much you hate this video, more is not needed, we got your point. Now, let us enjoy this amazing comeback.
Cheers.
PS. Don't get offended, just saying the truth.
Love, D
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Post by dominik1291 on Jun 14, 2019 10:37:31 GMT -5
No, but the thread was meant to be about making Liam's videos and songs more popular, not about making hardcore fans like the video more. But I guess I wasn't clear enough in my original post. if you release the video before the song, more people are going to take a look. I thought my post was clear. Liam's kind of music is not popular in the current music scene. and thank god about that if you want a video to be popular have a colaboration with a raggeaton shit singer and have a bunch of girls dance in bikini and there you go. popular, tons of views and a lot of new fans! yay THIS! Thanks Eva
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Post by LlAM on Jun 14, 2019 10:42:24 GMT -5
Who actually watches music videos anyway? Yes, I use YouTube for music all the time but I'm actually not looking at it. Might as well save some money and just do a lyric video.
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Post by Bonehead's Barber on Jun 14, 2019 10:45:31 GMT -5
No, but the thread was meant to be about making Liam's videos and songs more popular, not about making hardcore fans like the video more. But I guess I wasn't clear enough in my original post. if you release the video before the song, more people are going to take a look. I thought my post was clear. Liam's kind of music is not popular in the current music scene. and thank god about that if you want a video to be popular have a colaboration with a raggeaton shit singer and have a bunch of girls dance in bikini and there you go. popular, tons of views and a lot of new fans! yay TBF, I'd watch a Liam video with him dancing about in a bikini
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Post by Deleted on Jun 14, 2019 10:50:52 GMT -5
Some people like watching a good music video. Nothing wrong with that.
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Post by The Escapist on Jun 14, 2019 10:53:49 GMT -5
No, but the thread was meant to be about making Liam's videos and songs more popular, not about making hardcore fans like the video more. But I guess I wasn't clear enough in my original post. if you release the video before the song, more people are going to take a look. I thought my post was clear. Liam's kind of music is not popular in the current music scene. and thank god about that if you want a video to be popular have a colaboration with a raggeaton shit singer and have a bunch of girls dance in bikini and there you go. popular, tons of views and a lot of new fans! yay It amazes me that people who completely wall themselves off from a scene feel confident enough to make dismissive statements about that same modern culture. I mean, look at the most popular video of the past few years, This is America. It's a rap song, and the video is one of the most symbolic and powerful pieces of popular culture you're gonna get. Bad Guy is the hottest video of the year, and it's dark and weird, showing female sexuality in a light-hearted but empowering way. Last year HUMBLE was incredibly hyped, and that video was fantastic. Jay-Z's video for The Story of OJ got tens of millions of views, and it's one of the most meaningful and memorable videos I've seen. They're creative, and interesting. And I know people who hate pop music despise it, but even (brace yourself) sexy female dancers (argh! boobs! the degradation of all society!) can be shown in artistic ways, with good choreography that conveys some of the meaning of the song - look at Sicko Mode, or Runaway. I'm not saying you have to like the current music scene, you can like whatever you want, and you're right that a lot of it is cookie-cooker rubbish, but you're missing out on a lot of great art by telling yourself that what's popular now must automatically be trash.
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Post by eva on Jun 14, 2019 11:04:22 GMT -5
if you release the video before the song, more people are going to take a look. I thought my post was clear. Liam's kind of music is not popular in the current music scene. and thank god about that if you want a video to be popular have a colaboration with a raggeaton shit singer and have a bunch of girls dance in bikini and there you go. popular, tons of views and a lot of new fans! yay It amazes me that people who completely wall themselves off from a scene feel confident enough to make dismissive statements about that same modern culture. I mean, look at the most popular video of the past few years, This is America. It's a rap song, and the video is one of the most symbolic and powerful pieces of popular culture you're gonna get. Bad Guy is the hottest video of the year, and it's dark and weird, showing female sexuality in a light-hearted but empowering way. Last year HUMBLE was incredibly hyped, and that video was fantastic. Jay-Z's video for The Story of OJ got tens of millions of views, and it's one of the most meaningful and memorable videos I've seen. They're creative, and interesting. And I know people who hate pop music despise it, but even (brace yourself) sexy female dancers (argh! boobs! the degradation of all society!) can be shown in artistic ways, with good choreography that conveys some of the meaning of the song - look at Sicko Mode, or Runaway. I'm not saying you have to like the current music scene, you can like whatever you want, and you're right that a lot of it is cookie-cooker rubbish, but you're missing out on a lot of great art by telling yourself that what's popular now must automatically be trash. that just feels like cheap explotation to me so I don't like hip hop. or rap. so what? if you enjoy it, that's ok. I don't have to like it, it doesn't appeal to me. I watched the video of This is America when it came out and it's just... ok? it's no the type of music that I can stand for more than 30 seconds. also, what's popular in the US or Europe is very different to what's popular over here so we might be talking about different kind of trash
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Post by jeffrey on Jun 14, 2019 11:12:29 GMT -5
This forum appears to have also fallen victim to the current climate of negativity and perpetual unhappiness that the social media era has ushered in.
I have no idea what the music video for Shockwave tried to illustrate and I couldn’t care less. Videos are something both Gallagher’s are forced to do, but have always despised. We should all be thrilled that we have the opportunity to watch LG swagger for 3.5 minutes to his new, in my opinion, MONSTROUS single.
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Post by The Escapist on Jun 14, 2019 11:12:33 GMT -5
It amazes me that people who completely wall themselves off from a scene feel confident enough to make dismissive statements about that same modern culture. I mean, look at the most popular video of the past few years, This is America. It's a rap song, and the video is one of the most symbolic and powerful pieces of popular culture you're gonna get. Bad Guy is the hottest video of the year, and it's dark and weird, showing female sexuality in a light-hearted but empowering way. Last year HUMBLE was incredibly hyped, and that video was fantastic. Jay-Z's video for The Story of OJ got tens of millions of views, and it's one of the most meaningful and memorable videos I've seen. They're creative, and interesting. And I know people who hate pop music despise it, but even (brace yourself) sexy female dancers (argh! boobs! the degradation of all society!) can be shown in artistic ways, with good choreography that conveys some of the meaning of the song - look at Sicko Mode, or Runaway. I'm not saying you have to like the current music scene, you can like whatever you want, and you're right that a lot of it is cookie-cooker rubbish, but you're missing out on a lot of great art by telling yourself that what's popular now must automatically be trash. that just feels like cheap explotation to me so I don't like hip hop. or rap. so what? if you enjoy it, that's ok. I don't have to like it, it doesn't appeal to me. I watched the video of This is America when it came out and it's just... ok? it's no the type of music that I can stand for more than 30 seconds. also, what's popular in the US or Europe is very different to what's popular over here so we might be talking about different kind of trash I have no problem with someone not liking rap, we all like different things. My problem is that people continually insinuate that all modern popular music is trash, saying that all you need to do to have a popular video is girls in bikinis, or all music has to be autotuned now to be a hit, despite that just being...well, just, not true. You not liking stuff is fine, acting as if all this music and culture which, let's be honest, you're not really engaged with, is garbage feels condescending. There's lots of creative music and art being made in the mainstream now, just like there always has been. There's a lot of shit, too, just like there always has been. Maybe the genres aren't your thing anymore, that's cool, but it doesn't mean you have to act as if it's all beneath you.
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Post by DCUnited on Jun 14, 2019 11:23:57 GMT -5
that just feels like cheap explotation to me so I don't like hip hop. or rap. so what? if you enjoy it, that's ok. I don't have to like it, it doesn't appeal to me. I watched the video of This is America when it came out and it's just... ok? it's no the type of music that I can stand for more than 30 seconds. also, what's popular in the US or Europe is very different to what's popular over here so we might be talking about different kind of trash I have no problem with someone not liking rap, we all like different things. My problem is that people continually insinuate that all modern popular music is trash, saying that all you need to do to have a popular video is girls in bikinis, or all music has to be autotuned now to be a hit, despite that just being...well, just, not true. You not liking stuff is fine, acting as if all this music and culture which, let's be honest, you're not really engaged with, is garbage feels condescending. There's lots of creative music and art being made in the mainstream now, just like there always has been. There's a lot of shit, too, just like there always has been. Maybe the genres aren't your thing anymore, that's cool, but it doesn't mean you have to act as if it's all beneath you. Why do u care what others think, dont let it bother u
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Post by 2nz on Jun 14, 2019 11:34:34 GMT -5
Why is anyone of the impression that liam is trying to attract new fans and are equating his current needs to people who make music for pop culture in America?
His focus is trying to attract the 10 million people who bought morning glory to his music. He’s unashamedly retro and it works. Any “new” fan he attracts are gonna buy right into the whole package. And his video schtick is walking moodily.
He’s not Kendrick. He’s not a social commentator. Never will be.
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Post by The Escapist on Jun 14, 2019 11:44:20 GMT -5
I have no problem with someone not liking rap, we all like different things. My problem is that people continually insinuate that all modern popular music is trash, saying that all you need to do to have a popular video is girls in bikinis, or all music has to be autotuned now to be a hit, despite that just being...well, just, not true. You not liking stuff is fine, acting as if all this music and culture which, let's be honest, you're not really engaged with, is garbage feels condescending. There's lots of creative music and art being made in the mainstream now, just like there always has been. There's a lot of shit, too, just like there always has been. Maybe the genres aren't your thing anymore, that's cool, but it doesn't mean you have to act as if it's all beneath you. Why do u care what others think, dont let it bother u Mate, if it was just a few people I wouldn't care. It gets on my nerves when there's this massive culture of people who don't engage with modern music, don't like any of the genres in it, don't care to find out about the acclaimed art in it, and yet feel completely confident stating that it is garbage. It on every YouTube video released before 2015, it's in comments about things that aren't related to it, and it's increasingly present on this forum too. People can like what they like, that's cool, but is it so hard to just realise that just because something isn't for you, that doesn't make it garbage for you to condescend about? Especially when so many famous pop and rap albums over the past decade have been so creative, artistic, and memorable.
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Post by jeffrey on Jun 14, 2019 11:45:24 GMT -5
if you release the video before the song, more people are going to take a look. I thought my post was clear. Liam's kind of music is not popular in the current music scene. and thank god about that if you want a video to be popular have a colaboration with a raggeaton shit singer and have a bunch of girls dance in bikini and there you go. popular, tons of views and a lot of new fans! yay Please try to write a less predictable and lazy comment. At least try. Yes, we all know and fully understand that you hate ''raggeaton shit'' and the ''current music scene'' that you apparently know a lot about. Very interesting. As I have already written in another thread: Liam has proven to Warner that he can sell tickets, that he can sell out stadiums, that he can attract sponsors, and that there is a good return on investing in him. He has also had two years to build up a decent following on Youtube, Facebook, Instagram (and, since earlier, Twitter). Despite this, he cannot seem to improve on the chart position from last time. I imagine they invested more cash in the songwriting this time(?), now that the investors already have the evidence available that Liam is a decent investment and now that he has already established himself as a solo artist? Or maybe I am wrong. But maybe Warner just want to play it safe and not make any risky moves at all, and maybe their only priority is to ensure that every hardcore fan buys a ticket for the upcoming tour (and possibly a Stone Island parka). I don't know. But I hope the next single has a better video that aims also for a broader audience. I know many people who liked several songs on As You Were, but would never have heard about it if I didn't play them. I know for a fact that none of them would ever watch a video of Liam walking around in a Stone Island parka making pistol signs. Why not try something new? Are the Warner people that afraid of taking risks? Do you not think that the enormous global brand of Warner, which obviously has brilliant marketing minds, might have a better understanding/idea than you do regarding how to attract the most people to LG content... You’re acting like they’ve done something adverse to his success with this video; and that’s absolutely bonkers.
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Post by DCUnited on Jun 14, 2019 12:05:17 GMT -5
Why do u care what others think, dont let it bother u Mate, if it was just a few people I wouldn't care. It gets on my nerves when there's this massive culture of people who don't engage with modern music, don't like any of the genres in it, don't care to find out about the acclaimed art in it, and yet feel completely confident stating that it is garbage. It on every YouTube video released before 2015, it's in comments about things that aren't related to it, and it's increasingly present on this forum too. People can like what they like, that's cool, but is it so hard to just realise that just because something isn't for you, that doesn't make it garbage for you to condescend about? Especially when so many famous pop and rap albums over the past decade have been so creative, artistic, and memorable. Well, "modern rock" is completely dead. All the radio stations that played new rock music have pretty much gone away. The ones that are left have basically turned into 90s and 2000s oldies stations. It's an Oasis forum, rap and hip hop took over the music culture from the rock music they like
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Post by Marissa on Jun 14, 2019 12:08:56 GMT -5
It’s not useless, it’s a little more than ok and it served it’s purpose. It’s just a music vid. Is all. Relax. Everytime anyone has an opinon or discuss anything on this forum, there are always 10 people saying ''relax''. How much weed do people smoke in here? not enough, honestly
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Post by fartpanic on Jun 14, 2019 12:13:39 GMT -5
I just wish someone would tell him to stop wearing the same ridiculously oversized parka.
He looks great in normal size parkas that fit his actual size.
Don't know why hes started wearing that Stone Island in XXXL
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Post by eva on Jun 14, 2019 12:19:35 GMT -5
Why do u care what others think, dont let it bother u Mate, if it was just a few people I wouldn't care. It gets on my nerves when there's this massive culture of people who don't engage with modern music, don't like any of the genres in it, don't care to find out about the acclaimed art in it, and yet feel completely confident stating that it is garbage. It on every YouTube video released before 2015, it's in comments about things that aren't related to it, and it's increasingly present on this forum too. People can like what they like, that's cool, but is it so hard to just realise that just because something isn't for you, that doesn't make it garbage for you to condescend about? Especially when so many famous pop and rap albums over the past decade have been so creative, artistic, and memorable. You think I'm being condescending because I don't like rap/hip hop/modern music. And I feel you're being condescending with the people who don't like that kind of genres implying they don't know about music. To each their own. Peace, love and bananas
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Post by The Escapist on Jun 14, 2019 12:47:40 GMT -5
Mate, if it was just a few people I wouldn't care. It gets on my nerves when there's this massive culture of people who don't engage with modern music, don't like any of the genres in it, don't care to find out about the acclaimed art in it, and yet feel completely confident stating that it is garbage. It on every YouTube video released before 2015, it's in comments about things that aren't related to it, and it's increasingly present on this forum too. People can like what they like, that's cool, but is it so hard to just realise that just because something isn't for you, that doesn't make it garbage for you to condescend about? Especially when so many famous pop and rap albums over the past decade have been so creative, artistic, and memorable. You think I'm being condescending because I don't like rap/hip hop/modern music. And I feel you're being condescending with the people who don't like that kind of genres implying they don't know about music. To each their own. Peace, love and bananas I'd love you to find the bit where I said people who don't like rap don't know about music, Eva. That would be great. It won't happen, of course, because I didn't say that. I would also adore it if you found the bit where I said that I think you're condescending because you don't like rap or pop. Again, you won't do that, because it didn't happen. You can like whatever you like. People all have their own tastes, and preferences, and connect with different music - if you hate every rap song, every song that's popular now, I genuinely have no problem with that. I, for instance, don't like death metal. It's just not for me. We all have genres we just don't connect with. But I don't make condescending comments about how death metal is garbage, or how they all have to do the same things to be popular. Because I'm aware that I don't know much about it, it isn't my scene, but a lot of people do enjoy it and a lot of the work clearly has artistic merit. On the other hand, you clearly feel fine making ridiculous statements like "to have a popular video these days you have to have girls in bikinis in the video" which is untrue, and yes, condescending. Thanks.
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Post by eva on Jun 14, 2019 13:21:51 GMT -5
The Escapist I don't know man, I posted that Liam 's music doesn't fit in the current music scene and made an hyperbolic example of reggaeton videos and you went on about how I dismiss the whole hip hop scene as garbage and how it's beneath me or something when I never said that. Only that I dont like it and don't listen to it I have no idea why we are still arguing about this but ok. Yes, you win. Peace out ✌️ Let's hope Liam next video capture the masses
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