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Post by jxing on Jun 4, 2019 13:55:47 GMT -5
Glad I didn't go and buy it now. Slag off Noel, slag off Weller, random oasis story, not curing cancer or reinventing the wheel kind of quote. Could this have not been an interview from 2 years ago? I got alot of stick for worrying that his album was rushed and nothing was written by him. He basically recorded it in a couple of weeks with songs just ready for him to sing. That's soul destroying to me even if the songs are good. It's basically just a money making opportunity with no soul in it. They'll keep milking thats for all its worth until we get a massive crash bigger than Beady Eye. You're being so incredibly negative about this. It's like you've made your mind up already that you're gonna dislike the album, it's crazy. I'm sure there are songs on there that he has nearly completely written himself but they have been helped along which is what Liam needs. It adds to the album rather than impacting it negatively. Just enjoy Liam having new songs out man, a few years a go we thought he might have completely knocked singing on the head, he has sung other people's songs most of his career, this ain't anything new. We became fans of Liam for his voice and attitude and that's what we are going to get with his new album. 11-15 new Liam sung songs, all is good. This 100%%%
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Post by goletitout1986 on Jun 4, 2019 13:59:21 GMT -5
Thanks for the scans. I am BUZZING for tomorrow and Thursday.
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Post by DCUnited on Jun 4, 2019 14:49:25 GMT -5
since when the people who wrote a song are more important than the quality of the song? no soul? so there was no soul in oasis just because he was singing noel's song i guess and however there are a lot of information on new album,single and documentary There was soul in Oasis because there was a genuine link between Noels writing and Liams singing. I can't believe we are comparing the two concepts of a bandmate (and brother!) writing for the band and some bloke he hardly knows preparing a bunch of songs for him to sing over the top of in a week or two. It also strikes me that Liam doesn't actually seem to care about what hes singing. Just that hes singing songs on an album. He could barely say anything about each song from AYW when he was on Chris Moyles show. It'll be even worse for this one if he gets asked anything. Boo hoo. Nothing is different than it ever has been
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Post by The Escapist on Jun 4, 2019 15:13:26 GMT -5
Best bit for me there is that Liam likes Slowthai! Great stuff.
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Post by Rolo on Jun 4, 2019 15:28:37 GMT -5
You're being so incredibly negative about this. It's like you've made your mind up already that you're gonna dislike the album, it's crazy. I'm sure there are songs on there that he has nearly completely written himself but they have been helped along which is what Liam needs. It adds to the album rather than impacting it negatively. Just enjoy Liam having new songs out man, a few years a go we thought he might have completely knocked singing on the head, he has sung other people's songs most of his career, this ain't anything new. We became fans of Liam for his voice and attitude and that's what we are going to get with his new album. 11-15 new Liam sung songs, all is good. I'm being negative about the way the record label and indeed Liam to a degree are cashing in on us all. You won't find a bigger fan of Liam and any of my posts before this album cycle will show you that. I just find it hard to believe all these "parka monkeys" (who were also strangely revelling in his misfortune with beady eye) are now bashing Noel for being the one who is a fake and isnt bothered about the fans. Yet here we have Liam basically just cashing in on the success of AYW by giving us a film and album made up of songs completely by other people. I've in no way made up my opinion on the album already. Unlike what everyone did with Beady Eye and now do with Noels stuff. And singing your bandmates songs in a band is a far cry from walking into a room the other side of the world and singing over fully finished tracks and banging it all out in couple of weeks. Why do you care though? I don't get it. We are getting a film about Liam's life over the last 10 years, as a fan surely that is exciting, no? I don't see the point in analysing why it's being made, why does that matter? Would you rather there be no film to watch? I'm gonna go to the cinema on Thursday, watch then film and enjoy it for what it is and I can't fucking wait!
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Post by Deleted on Jun 4, 2019 15:36:55 GMT -5
I don't blame them for "cashing in" though, who wouldnt?
its pretty inevitable that Liam will probably cool off again at some point, this cycle likely wont have the same interest level as the first album anyway. Just because the initial spark a Liam return is somewhat over at this point but there is still enough hype going on to capitalize on.
Its only expected that they are going to generate as much interest as they can to keep the ball rolling. Warner brothers would be stupid not to strike while the iron is still hot.
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Post by Rolo on Jun 4, 2019 15:41:41 GMT -5
He'd be crazy not to capitalise on the momentum he has created to be honest.
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Post by jxing on Jun 4, 2019 15:54:30 GMT -5
since when the people who wrote a song are more important than the quality of the song? no soul? so there was no soul in oasis just because he was singing noel's song i guess and however there are a lot of information on new album,single and documentary There was soul in Oasis because there was a genuine link between Noels writing and Liams singing. I can't believe we are comparing the two concepts of a bandmate (and brother!) writing for the band and some bloke he hardly knows preparing a bunch of songs for him to sing over the top of in a week or two. It also strikes me that Liam doesn't actually seem to care about what hes singing. Just that hes singing songs on an album. He could barely say anything about each song from AYW when he was on Chris Moyles show. It'll be even worse for this one if he gets asked anything. You're truly exhausting. I'm not sure what gigs you've attended or watched but liam absolutely cares about the songs he sings...which is what makes his gigs so incredible. This tour I'm hoping to go to 2, 1 for the music and another just to watch & enjoy the vibe. I just don't think that he needs to keep explaining why he gets assistance with writing.
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Post by mossy on Jun 5, 2019 8:41:15 GMT -5
Bit disappointed to read the new album is going to more of the same as As You Were and he hopes the next album will be the punk one. X
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Post by mancraider on Jun 5, 2019 8:52:38 GMT -5
Bit disappointed to read the new album is going to more of the same as As You Were and he hopes the next album will be the punk one. X seemed more a daydream than any actual intention to follow through tbh. He obviously wants success and, righty or wrongly, seems to have been convinced that a punk record wouldn't sell.
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Post by mossy on Jun 5, 2019 9:53:08 GMT -5
Bit disappointed to read the new album is going to more of the same as As You Were and he hopes the next album will be the punk one. X seemed more a daydream than any actual intention to follow through tbh. He obviously wants success and, righty or wrongly, seems to have been convinced that a punk record wouldn't sell. And I’m sure Warner Brothers will convince him again come time for album 3 X
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Post by stxparkamonkey on Jun 5, 2019 10:32:59 GMT -5
I think we are sort of agreeing that FWIW is a bit of a cynical apology in that it was decided it was necessary, either by the label or Liams management, as a strategic part of his rehabilitation. Think of that what you will but it can't be denied that his comeback has been very successful and FWIW one of his biggest hits. Whoever made that decision will feel vindicated. It's fine to want your musical heroes to have complete control over their own career and creative process like say a Dylan or Bowie but I'm afraid that's not who Liam is. It's what Noel values and fair enough if that's your priority as a fan but it's not the be and end all when it comes to being a big star. Elvis had very little control over any aspect of his career. I think Liam is doing fine on his own terms and am looking forward to hearing his new album. Yeah we agree, i look forward to this record too, but as you said Liam is Elvis, good pop corn music. And look where Elvis ended up... Liam, Las Vegas residency in 2030... Liam wishes
And the Sun Sessions/1960 and 1969 Elvis sessions are popcorn?? Some of the greatest rock/blue eyed soul recorded ....
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Post by acquiesce19 on Jun 5, 2019 19:37:42 GMT -5
I feel like there's a middle ground between brazenly doing the same thing over and over again, as Liam is professing to do here, and going as far out there as Noel has now done with Black Star Dancing. Can't we find that sweet spot somewhere?
I'm sure I'll love Why Me, Why Not, but I'm a little bit more pessimistic after reading this interview, like I was after hearing Black Star Dancing.
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Post by The Escapist on Jun 5, 2019 19:45:18 GMT -5
I’m in no great hurry for a “punk” album by Liam. I don’t think you can really have a punk album from a middle-aged man and his songwriters, anyway, to be honest. Okay, a dirtier sound might work, but for now I’m fine with rock ‘n’ roll given a modern twist, and a few radio-friendly tracks in there for good measure. I just want the rock tracks to be as good as Wall of a Glass and the ballads as good as Paper Crown.
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Post by shannee on Jun 5, 2019 20:21:55 GMT -5
The writers need to move away from the pop sound. Liam is not pop artist and those songs don't bring out the best in him. I was listening to AYW today and I do not think it will age well. Liam is great on the album but the musicality borders on cheesy at times. The best sounding, most authentic songs imo are WAG, IAIN, and the deluxe songs. So...I hope they've not gone too pop-y with this new one. I want the punk album but I'm not surprise the label is putting Liam off. Fuck the corporate machine
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Post by Crazy Joe Davola on Jun 6, 2019 1:07:22 GMT -5
The writers need to move away from the pop sound. Liam is not pop artist and those songs don't bring out the best in him. I was listening to AYW today and I do not think it will age well. Liam is great on the album but the musicality borders on cheesy at times. The best sounding, most authentic songs imo are WAG, IAIN, and the deluxe songs. So...I hope they've not gone too pop-y with this new one. I want the punk album but I'm not surprise the label is putting Liam off. Fuck the corporate machine We're entering the danger zone.... God bless.
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Post by thomaslivesforever on Jun 6, 2019 3:19:44 GMT -5
The writers need to move away from the pop sound. Liam is not pop artist and those songs don't bring out the best in him. I was listening to AYW today and I do not think it will age well. Liam is great on the album but the musicality borders on cheesy at times. The best sounding, most authentic songs imo are WAG, IAIN, and the deluxe songs. So...I hope they've not gone too pop-y with this new one. I want the punk album but I'm not surprise the label is putting Liam off. Fuck the corporate machine Liam has been involved in pop music since 1994. What makes you think he wouldn’t be now?
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Post by bt95 on Jun 6, 2019 11:25:34 GMT -5
Great interview. Liam's on form.
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Post by shannee on Jun 6, 2019 13:16:36 GMT -5
The writers need to move away from the pop sound. Liam is not pop artist and those songs don't bring out the best in him. I was listening to AYW today and I do not think it will age well. Liam is great on the album but the musicality borders on cheesy at times. The best sounding, most authentic songs imo are WAG, IAIN, and the deluxe songs. So...I hope they've not gone too pop-y with this new one. I want the punk album but I'm not surprise the label is putting Liam off. Fuck the corporate machine Liam has been involved in pop music since 1994. What makes you think he wouldn’t be now? Obviously there’s a difference between corporate manufactured pop that goes stale within two years and a song like Live Forever that appeals to millions because of its universal themes and the once or twice in a generation talent behind it..Warner is treading on the authenticity of type two to sell type one which really bothers me, though I understand Liam feels it’s his best choice in today’s market.
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Post by shannee on Jun 6, 2019 13:25:03 GMT -5
I would also suggest Liam knows this damn well and hates that he’s had to make this compromise or deal with the devil and this is partially behind his continued anger with Noel. Because he feels Noel has left him no other choice. But despite his anger he would drop his solo career in a heartbeat for the return of Oasis. thanks for coming to my Ted talk
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Post by Deleted on Jun 6, 2019 13:34:42 GMT -5
I would also suggest Liam knows this damn well and hates that he’s had to make this compromise or deal with the devil and this is partially behind his continued anger with Noel. Because he feels Noel has left him no other choice. But despite his anger he would drop his solo career in a heartbeat for the return of Oasis. thanks for coming to my Ted talk he even says in this interview (in the lead up to his solo album mind you) that "hes ready to go" but Noel doesnt want it, even going as far as to say "so here we are, I have to be here now to do, to get my vibes" like he is only really doing it reluctantly. If Noel wanted to get oasis back together, I have no doubt that Liam would drop this solo career in a heartbeat. Like someone said, you only hate someone if you care and Liams constant jabs at Noel is probably a reflection on how he probably misses his brother. Im sure its hard considering how long they were in each others pockets and then it just ended.
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Post by Crazy Joe Davola on Jun 7, 2019 16:59:10 GMT -5
I would also suggest Liam knows this damn well and hates that he’s had to make this compromise or deal with the devil and this is partially behind his continued anger with Noel. Because he feels Noel has left him no other choice. But despite his anger he would drop his solo career in a heartbeat for the return of Oasis. thanks for coming to my Ted talk I think Líam needs the money.....with divorces and child support, etc., and I think he likes the lifestyle he's grown accustom to, who could blame him. I remember reading when BDI were still with us, how Líam always insisted on staying at the nicest hotels while on tour, which is feasible if you're making a lot of money; not so much if your band's name is Beady Eye.....what an awful name for a band. God bless.
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Post by birthdaycakes7 on Jun 8, 2019 9:40:15 GMT -5
A punk album from Liam would be shite. It would just be Greedy Soul times 12. And Greedy Soul is one of the cheesiest songs on AYW. Pushing Liam back towards pop has been a good thing, his solo stuff has been the poppiest stuff he's done since Morning Glory.
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Post by GlastoEls on Jun 11, 2019 4:59:59 GMT -5
A punk album from Liam would be shite. It would just be Greedy Soul times 12. And Greedy Soul is one of the cheesiest songs on AYW. Pushing Liam back towards pop has been a good thing, his solo stuff has been the poppiest stuff he's done since Morning Glory. Couldn't agree more.
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Post by joladella on Jul 2, 2019 12:30:49 GMT -5
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