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Post by Deleted on Apr 23, 2019 13:39:35 GMT -5
so wait he's only on like five gigs? is that even worth him coming to the US for? Absolutely it is, the exposure to many more thousands of people than he could attract himself will be invaluable and will hopefully lead to a lot of them buying the album and the US fanbase growing. It’s very very expensive to get the band/crew work visas and travel with all the gear to and around America, and it’s an investment that needs to be fruitful. I’m sure he’ll also be doing plenty of radio/tv promo too.
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Post by Marissa on Apr 23, 2019 15:48:59 GMT -5
so wait he's only on like five gigs? is that even worth him coming to the US for? Absolutely it is, the exposure to many more thousands of people than he could attract himself will be invaluable and will hopefully lead to a lot of them buying the album and the US fanbase growing. It’s very very expensive to get the band/crew work visas and travel with all the gear to and around America, and it’s an investment that needs to be fruitful. I’m sure he’ll also be doing plenty of radio/tv promo too. yeah ok but like... is anyone actually going to see the who in 2019 lol plus it's only california dates. you'd think he'd sign on for something with a little bigger scope
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Post by Deleted on Apr 23, 2019 16:50:44 GMT -5
Absolutely it is, the exposure to many more thousands of people than he could attract himself will be invaluable and will hopefully lead to a lot of them buying the album and the US fanbase growing. It’s very very expensive to get the band/crew work visas and travel with all the gear to and around America, and it’s an investment that needs to be fruitful. I’m sure he’ll also be doing plenty of radio/tv promo too. yeah ok but like... is anyone actually going to see the who in 2019 lol plus it's only california dates. you'd think he'd sign on for something with a little bigger scope Seattle 48k capacity and 2 nights at The Hollywood Bowl are a big deal for Liam, plus a few other venues with The Who and whatever he does independently makes this more than worthwhile.
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Post by Marissa on Apr 24, 2019 11:14:39 GMT -5
yeah ok but like... is anyone actually going to see the who in 2019 lol plus it's only california dates. you'd think he'd sign on for something with a little bigger scope Seattle 48k capacity and 2 nights at The Hollywood Bowl are a big deal for Liam, plus a few other venues with The Who and whatever he does independently makes this more than worthwhile. seems to me like liam tried so hard and got so far but in the end he only landed 5 gigs with a band nobody cares to see, but if you say so
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Post by Jim on Apr 25, 2019 1:00:07 GMT -5
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Post by stxparkamonkey on Apr 25, 2019 17:04:49 GMT -5
Seattle 48k capacity and 2 nights at The Hollywood Bowl are a big deal for Liam, plus a few other venues with The Who and whatever he does independently makes this more than worthwhile. seems to me like liam tried so hard and got so far but in the end he only landed 5 gigs with a band nobody cares to see, but if you say so I'm not the biggest WHO fan but they still have a huge fan base and I would say are only third to McCartney & the Stones in the "Old Farts that rock and bring them in" category.
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Post by mancraider on Apr 25, 2019 17:30:43 GMT -5
seems to me like liam tried so hard and got so far but in the end he only landed 5 gigs with a band nobody cares to see, but if you say so I'm not the biggest WHO fan but they still have a huge fan base and I would say are only third to McCartney & the Stones in the "Old Farts that rock and bring them in" category. talking a lad last night who was a big fan of the who, ask if he was going to see them this summer. Nah, he said, my favourites are dead.
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Post by Diamond in The Dark on Apr 27, 2019 3:53:00 GMT -5
hype out of control!
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Post by tu on Apr 30, 2019 10:46:06 GMT -5
@ Ashcroft Olympia London Saturday?
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Post by Deleted on Apr 30, 2019 11:42:32 GMT -5
Very small, just a few hundred capacity. Mainly for music industry unfortunately.
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Post by Deleted on May 4, 2019 22:04:29 GMT -5
so wait he's only on like five gigs? is that even worth him coming to the US for? Absolutely it is, the exposure to many more thousands of people than he could attract himself will be invaluable and will hopefully lead to a lot of them buying the album and the US fanbase growing. It’s very very expensive to get the band/crew work visas and travel with all the gear to and around America, and it’s an investment that needs to be fruitful. I’m sure he’ll also be doing plenty of radio/tv promo too. The US fanbase growing? I mean, he's 46 opening for a band with members in their 70's. I think that ship has pretty much sailed by now, don't you?
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Post by shannee on May 4, 2019 22:50:24 GMT -5
Absolutely it is, the exposure to many more thousands of people than he could attract himself will be invaluable and will hopefully lead to a lot of them buying the album and the US fanbase growing. It’s very very expensive to get the band/crew work visas and travel with all the gear to and around America, and it’s an investment that needs to be fruitful. I’m sure he’ll also be doing plenty of radio/tv promo too. The US fanbase growing? I mean, he's 46 opening for a band with members in their 70's. I think that ship has pretty much sailed by now, don't you? He obviously peaked in the 90s with oasis but a lot of families will be going to The Who shows I think. I’m bringing my mom and daughter. He may pick up quite a few new fans in their teens and twenties that came with older friends and family
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Post by leron on May 5, 2019 1:51:03 GMT -5
Very small, just a few hundred capacity. Mainly for music industry unfortunately. When?
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Post by daviesh on May 5, 2019 2:22:46 GMT -5
Maybe this is in reference to the Ally Pally gig after the film screening?
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Post by goletitout1986 on May 5, 2019 2:23:45 GMT -5
Maybe this is in reference to the Ally Pally gig after the film screening? Yeah my thoughts too.
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Post by Deleted on May 5, 2019 3:05:03 GMT -5
Absolutely it is, the exposure to many more thousands of people than he could attract himself will be invaluable and will hopefully lead to a lot of them buying the album and the US fanbase growing. It’s very very expensive to get the band/crew work visas and travel with all the gear to and around America, and it’s an investment that needs to be fruitful. I’m sure he’ll also be doing plenty of radio/tv promo too. The US fanbase growing? I mean, he's 46 opening for a band with members in their 70's. I think that ship has pretty much sailed by now, don't you? Maybe it’s his thing, like supporting the Stones. I don’t know, I’m just offering my take on the reasoning for the decision. Tbh I can’t listen to The Who, to me they’re just a shouty noise, but they apparently do have a huge US fanbase and it is clearly a big deal for Liam to play the stadium in Seattle and Hollywood Bowl etc, as he’s accepted the offer (he’s no shortage of these). It’s also an opportunity for warm-ups for his own UK tour.
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Post by Deleted on May 5, 2019 16:37:59 GMT -5
Listening to SCYHO by Noel and you can tell his band is superior to Liam's. I think he needs to change it up and make some difficult decisions.
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Post by Flashbax on May 5, 2019 19:26:39 GMT -5
Listening to SCYHO by Noel and you can tell his band is superior to Liam's. I think he needs to change it up and make some difficult decisions. I think they got better during the tour, especially when you compare one of his first concerts to one of lasts, but he should definitely get rid of Jay. Somebody who can sing backing vocals would be nice too. Never liked the bass player singing during Morning Glory. Maybe the drummer? I liked what he did on the Brit Awards 2018 on Live Forever.
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Post by goletitout1986 on May 6, 2019 0:56:20 GMT -5
Jay seems like a decent guy, but the constant error on the start of RNRS is so annoying.
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Post by rnrs001 on May 13, 2019 9:00:37 GMT -5
I think the issue with Liam's band is he's got no clue as how to manage a band. He likes to be in a band but knows next to nothing about guitars and how sound works. That's not meant to slag him off but he needs a captain in the band to steer it into the right direction and clearly his current band doesn't have one.
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Post by Rolo on May 13, 2019 9:19:43 GMT -5
I think the issue with Liam's band is he's got no clue as how to manage a band. He likes to be in a band but knows next to nothing about guitars and how sound works. That's not meant to slag him off but he needs a captain in the band to steer it into the right direction and clearly his current band doesn't have one. Spot on.
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Post by Deleted on May 13, 2019 9:25:36 GMT -5
For me another problem with Jay is the gear he's using (not drugs). His sound is so thin and trebly compared to Mike. I remember reading an article about Mike where he's talking about his setup and he's clearly trying to get close to Noel's 90's sound (Les Paul + JCM 900 stack). I think he's even faced the speakers away from the crowd (mic'd ofc) so he could turn up the volume more to get natural breakup from the amp. Noel always used to crank his amp but it's understandable the new band won't dare to compete with Liam about being the loudest But I'd still prefer if Mike's guitar was just a bit louder because I think it'd sound better. Jay on the other hand just sounds wrong. I don't think it's the fault of his guitar; the pickups he's using should be decent (P90). Maybe the problem is in his amp and/or settings as well as his playing. He's using Vox AC30 iirc and I wouldn't say it's ideal for Oasis sound but then again Gem was also using the same amp so it's not like you can't sound good with it. Either way, Jay doesn't sound good and the problem is in his playing as well as his current setup.
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Post by Flashbax on May 13, 2019 9:33:31 GMT -5
Music wise, Beady Eye was much better than Liam's band. Imagine Andy, Gem & Chris playing all those songs. Would have sounded great. Only decent backing vocals.
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Post by Velo on May 13, 2019 10:48:28 GMT -5
I think the issue with Liam's band is he's got no clue as how to manage a band. He likes to be in a band but knows next to nothing about guitars and how sound works. That's not meant to slag him off but he needs a captain in the band to steer it into the right direction and clearly his current band doesn't have one. Yeah, this is the issue. The band honestly isn't that bad (save for Jay) but it took them the entire length of the tour to hone in on what their sound was. Granted, these guys aren't on the level that Beady Eye were in the sense that Beady Eye could learn those songs and play them spot on and have it sound convincing. But considering Liam wanted a band that sounds like '94 Oasis, they do the job well. Jay's sound is just....too thick. His distortion tones sound like something you'd use in an American rock band. Gem and Noel have used Voxes and can get a ferocious jangle but Jay makes it sound like tinfoil. Case in point - him playing the intro of C&A and having it sound like thick mud!
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Post by Deleted on May 13, 2019 13:14:23 GMT -5
Liam’s band isn’t a band in the same sense that Beady Eye were though. They are employees on time limited individual contracts, some of them are highly qualified music academics but they can’t make decisions. One of them is the band manager; unfortunately all he can do is bring his frustration and concerns to Liam’s attention. I don’t think it helps that Liam usually travels separately, stays in a different hotel, and doesn’t really see them until he arrives at the venue. I think he needs to be more involved in the engine room rather than isolating himself from the band and crew on tour because I’m sure that’s where a lot of discussion takes place.
It’s ironic that the remaining other member of Beady Eye is the one that seems to be letting him down with his ability. I guess Liam just likes having him around.
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