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Post by Let It 🩸 on Nov 10, 2017 5:50:35 GMT -5
Pretty obvious what's going on: Johnny Màrr has a prosthetic head....
God bless.
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Post by ninestonecowboy on Nov 10, 2017 5:51:31 GMT -5
Marr looks like he wears a wig...either that or he's had some hair plugs done. Hair transplants rarely look as natural at Marr's hair, I think he's just been lucky, as Noel has. That wellend haircut just doesn't look good on anybody but Weller. I don't think Marr's hair looks that natural but then again, it might do if he didn't dye it black. There's no way that's his natural colour now. Dying it THAT black is never a good look on a man who is clearly grey by now. Something more subtle would look better.
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Post by ricardogce on Nov 10, 2017 5:52:38 GMT -5
So you're saying the world has changed not Noel? Hmmm I don't think that is the most likely reason. I like both those forms of humour, not sure I feel I'm getting that from Noel. So you're saying the world has not changed in the past decade, in the past 5 years ? It's radically different. Human interactions have completely changed. People are offended by everything really nowadays. He's giving less of himself in interviews and maybe he is tired or that, i'll give you that, but i just had a listen to that italian radio itw, and it was the same guy, same kind of replies, same humour. Just that the interviewers didn't spend 90% of the interview asking questions about his brother. Maybe that's the difference... That plays a part. But he's also coming off as increasingly out of touch in his criticisms of other bands. All of a sudden his targets aren't Sum 41 or Robbie Williams, but Dave Grohl and QOTSA. His politics have grown steadily more conservative, and he seems to have taken on Bono's tax hypocrisy as well. He sounds too much like one of "them" now. None of it will matter if the music remains good, of course, or Morrissey wouldn't have a career, but it's sad to see him buying into his own myth so much.
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Post by mancraider on Nov 10, 2017 5:56:48 GMT -5
You're right it isn't. Sometimes it is though. And think also Metallica: they are great friends with him and he still said he left after 20 mins of their Glastonbury set. And he also mentioned QOTSA who don't have any relationship with Liam. I think you guys are seeing too much here: Noel has never been into hard rock (not that QOTSA is that) and that's it. No need to involve his relationship with Liam to explain this I'll be honest I haven't even listened to the interview we are talking about, I just like making the odd comment that i know will wind up a few people on here. Not you though, you've been very respectful in making your case. I'm sure you are 100% right.
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Post by Gas Panic on Nov 10, 2017 5:57:28 GMT -5
Anyone else miss the days where Noels interviews weren't a total cringe fest?
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Post by ricardogce on Nov 10, 2017 6:00:30 GMT -5
Anyone else miss the days where Noels interviews weren't a total cringe fest? I miss the days when he promoted his music properly. As much as I'm disliking his new persona, I do love the music he's released so far. But we're two weeks from the album and have a single, a very non-commercial instrumental, and a live performance of a song that sounds like it'll sound good on the album but didn't really light me up live.
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Post by Gas Panic on Nov 10, 2017 6:07:39 GMT -5
Anyone else miss the days where Noels interviews weren't a total cringe fest? I miss the days when he promoted his music properly. As much as I'm disliking his new persona, I do love the music he's released so far. But we're two weeks from the album and have a single, a very non-commercial instrumental, and a live performance of a song that sounds like it'll sound good on the album but didn't really light me up live. We don't even have a single yet, really. Until it's spinning on my turntable, it doesn't exist. Whoever had the idea of releasing Holy Mountain on the same day as the album needs shooting.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 10, 2017 6:16:00 GMT -5
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Post by rorymcbride on Nov 10, 2017 6:17:49 GMT -5
Criticising people dying their hair. I guess Johnny Marr's jet black locks are perfectly natural then. Post of the day! LOCK THE THREAD!
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Post by andymorris on Nov 10, 2017 6:19:27 GMT -5
So you're saying the world has not changed in the past decade, in the past 5 years ? It's radically different. Human interactions have completely changed. People are offended by everything really nowadays. He's giving less of himself in interviews and maybe he is tired or that, i'll give you that, but i just had a listen to that italian radio itw, and it was the same guy, same kind of replies, same humour. Just that the interviewers didn't spend 90% of the interview asking questions about his brother. Maybe that's the difference... That plays a part. But he's also coming off as increasingly out of touch in his criticisms of other bands. All of a sudden his targets aren't Sum 41 or Robbie Williams, but Dave Grohl and QOTSA. His politics have grown steadily more conservative, and he seems to have taken on Bono's tax hypocrisy as well. He sounds too much like one of "them" now. None of it will matter if the music remains good, of course, or Morrissey wouldn't have a career, but it's sad to see him buying into his own myth so much. Well i like both Foo Fighters and QOTSA but i kinda understand Noel's point of view about political music. Some bands are using that to sell records dont they (Prophets of rage ?) What's the big deal ? Noel has not been kind to Artic Monkeys or the Libertines as well in the past 15 years. We know Noel has shit tastes in music, it's nothing new. As for the "he is one of them", both Gallaghers have been "one of them" for 25 years. Just one is pretending not to be. The other is accepting his success and so should we. As long as he doesn't enlist to be a Tory MP, i'm fine. What matter is the record he's gonna put out. CY was not his best, let's hope this one is.
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Post by johnnyb on Nov 10, 2017 6:30:42 GMT -5
Wow, likening Liam to the cowardly Lion from Wizard Of Oz... Brutal... I think that was funny. Don't get why people are taking everything Noel says so seriously now. Like many people have already alluded to - it’s the delivery and tone in Noel’s digs, they somehow seem a million miles away from the genuinely funny lines about Liam such as him being “like a man with a fork in a world of soup” brilliant! I’ve been a big Noel fanboy for years, used to spend alot of my spare time watching all his interviews on youtube with a few drinks at hand, much better than whatever was on the tv, and i used to use alot of his quips and anecdotes in real life... But now there definitely has been a change for the worst in him, i noticed it in his interview with Chris Moyles a month or so ago, shades on, none of the other team in the studio, and achingly serious and boring chat (sans the Donovan story) contrast that to when he turned up at Chris’s Radio 1 studio still drunk when they had the first play on TSOTL...
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Post by Spaceman on Nov 10, 2017 6:35:35 GMT -5
Seriously, all you need to do is watch his interviews from a couple years back. Don't even need to go back to the oasis days. The difference is stark.
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Post by ricardogce on Nov 10, 2017 6:37:45 GMT -5
That plays a part. But he's also coming off as increasingly out of touch in his criticisms of other bands. All of a sudden his targets aren't Sum 41 or Robbie Williams, but Dave Grohl and QOTSA. His politics have grown steadily more conservative, and he seems to have taken on Bono's tax hypocrisy as well. He sounds too much like one of "them" now. None of it will matter if the music remains good, of course, or Morrissey wouldn't have a career, but it's sad to see him buying into his own myth so much. Well i like both Foo Fighters and QOTSA but i kinda understand Noel's point of view about political music. Some bands are using that to sell records dont they (Prophets of rage ?) What's the big deal ? Noel has not been kind to Artic Monkeys or the Libertines as well in the past 15 years. We know Noel has shit tastes in music, it's nothing new. As for the "he is one of them", both Gallaghers have been "one of them" for 25 years. Just one is pretending not to be. The other is accepting his success and so should we. As long as he doesn't enlist to be a Tory MP, i'm fine. What matter is the record he's gonna put out. CY was not his best, let's hope this one is. Wealth isn't what makes someone part of "them". You can be wealthy and not be part of "them". Liam's a much richer person than me, and lives at an infinitely more fashionable address than me. I still feel I can approach him as just another guy and not fear ending up on the receiving end of a snobbish, dismissive attitude. Noel? I'm gonna go see him in Philadelphia this winter, but I'm not at all gonna bother hanging out in the cold hoping to meet him. Some of your idols are better from a safe distance. Being part of "them" means buying into your own hype. Calling your new music "a revolutionary act" in the face of "angry men with guitars". Namedropping the patron saint of hypocritical celebrities at every opportunity. Complaining that your country's government punishes "makers". Taking time off an interview where you're selling your "joyous" music to go on a "kill 'em all" tirade worthy of your embarrassing uncle at the Christmas table.
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Post by SheSaidHerNameWasDot on Nov 10, 2017 7:03:25 GMT -5
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Post by andymorris on Nov 10, 2017 7:10:49 GMT -5
Well i like both Foo Fighters and QOTSA but i kinda understand Noel's point of view about political music. Some bands are using that to sell records dont they (Prophets of rage ?) What's the big deal ? Noel has not been kind to Artic Monkeys or the Libertines as well in the past 15 years. We know Noel has shit tastes in music, it's nothing new. As for the "he is one of them", both Gallaghers have been "one of them" for 25 years. Just one is pretending not to be. The other is accepting his success and so should we. As long as he doesn't enlist to be a Tory MP, i'm fine. What matter is the record he's gonna put out. CY was not his best, let's hope this one is. Wealth isn't what makes someone part of "them". You can be wealthy and not be part of "them". Liam's a much richer person than me, and lives at an infinitely more fashionable address than me. I still feel I can approach him as just another guy and not fear ending up on the receiving end of a snobbish, dismissive attitude. Noel? I'm gonna go see him in Philadelphia this winter, but I'm not at all gonna bother hanging out in the cold hoping to meet him. Some of your idols are better from a safe distance. Being part of "them" means buying into your own hype. Calling your new music "a revolutionary act" in the face of "angry men with guitars". Namedropping the patron saint of hypocritical celebrities at every opportunity. Complaining that your country's government punishes "makers". Taking time off an interview where you're selling your "joyous" music to go on a "kill 'em all" tirade worthy of your embarrassing uncle at the Christmas table. Come on it's just marketing, just like Liam's "im a man of the people" is also good marketing. Liam has got very strong opinions about everything too but he choose to hide them for this album cycle and it worked. He's softened his personality (apart from Noel comments) to appeal a very wide audience and boom, people see him differently. But he has not changed either. Dont make up your opinions of people on what you see on the internet. I've met Noel, and he was as friendly as Liam. Maybe even more... That day he's the one who actually stoped for pictures, autographs etc you name it while Liam stormed into the car. Noel is a bit more careful of what kind of people are around him mainly for security reasons i believe, because fans can be weird sometimes, but he is still very approachable. I suggest you wait and go see him, you wont be disappointed. Dont be fooled, Liam and Noel are much more alike than they want you to believe. that's why they dont get along.
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Post by coolprophet on Nov 10, 2017 9:01:30 GMT -5
For a couple of years now(around CY) most of his interviews become really boring and he sounds like a pretty miserable guy. Hard to say that for me as he'll always be one of my heroes but there you go. Where is the smart and funny Noel? Not pretty enjoyable to listen/read.
Even slagging off other bands was more funny in the past. By the way don't see the reason here if it's not simply about Liam. Apart from that I'd prefer to hang out with Foo Fighters and QOTSA instead of U2 and Paul Weller these days.
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Post by Fade In-Out on Nov 10, 2017 9:26:31 GMT -5
Do you think he really thinks what he said about fucking grohl? Like is he serious when he says that singing an happy song like he's doing is revolutionnary? Does he think the stuff he released is revolutionnary and better than singing whats in the news? If yes then i dont know what he became but that twat is not the one who wrote definitely maybe. Its a pain to listen more than 3min of his interviews these days.
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Post by mancraider on Nov 10, 2017 9:33:00 GMT -5
If songs like Cigs and Alcohol or Up In The Sky aren't political I don't know what is. Politics is Life.
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Post by walterglass on Nov 10, 2017 9:35:56 GMT -5
If songs like Cigs and Alcohol or Up In The Sky aren't political I don't know what is. Politics is Life. And Listen Up.
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Post by discworld on Nov 10, 2017 9:41:51 GMT -5
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Post by Spaceman on Nov 10, 2017 9:43:41 GMT -5
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Post by thomaslivesforever on Nov 10, 2017 10:44:55 GMT -5
Wealth isn't what makes someone part of "them". You can be wealthy and not be part of "them". Liam's a much richer person than me, and lives at an infinitely more fashionable address than me. I still feel I can approach him as just another guy and not fear ending up on the receiving end of a snobbish, dismissive attitude. Noel? I'm gonna go see him in Philadelphia this winter, but I'm not at all gonna bother hanging out in the cold hoping to meet him. Some of your idols are better from a safe distance. Being part of "them" means buying into your own hype. Calling your new music "a revolutionary act" in the face of "angry men with guitars". Namedropping the patron saint of hypocritical celebrities at every opportunity. Complaining that your country's government punishes "makers". Taking time off an interview where you're selling your "joyous" music to go on a "kill 'em all" tirade worthy of your embarrassing uncle at the Christmas table. Come on it's just marketing, just like Liam's "im a man of the people" is also good marketing. Liam has got very strong opinions about everything too but he choose to hide them for this album cycle and it worked. He's softened his personality (apart from Noel comments) to appeal a very wide audience and boom, people see him differently. But he has not changed either. Dont make up your opinions of people on what you see on the internet. I've met Noel, and he was as friendly as Liam. Maybe even more... That day he's the one who actually stoped for pictures, autographs etc you name it while Liam stormed into the car. Noel is a bit more careful of what kind of people are around him mainly for security reasons i believe, because fans can be weird sometimes, but he is still very approachable. I suggest you wait and go see him, you wont be disappointed. Dont be fooled, Liam and Noel are much more alike than they want you to believe. that's why they dont get along. ricardogce very eloquently explained what many here feel about the way Noel comes across. I don't know why you continue to compare him to Liam, my opinion of Noel has nothing to do with what Liam says or fires off on twitter. I take Noel as I find him through what I read and what I hear him say. I also don't understand where the assumption comes from that Liam hasn't changed at all, or what its based on. You think everything is marketing or contrived, for the most part I don't think Liam worries to much about the former and has never been the latter.
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Post by freddy838 on Nov 10, 2017 10:52:09 GMT -5
If songs like Cigs and Alcohol or Up In The Sky aren't political I don't know what is. Politics is Life. And Listen Up. And Beautiful World
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Post by ninestonecowboy on Nov 10, 2017 11:03:28 GMT -5
That plays a part. But he's also coming off as increasingly out of touch in his criticisms of other bands. All of a sudden his targets aren't Sum 41 or Robbie Williams, but Dave Grohl and QOTSA. His politics have grown steadily more conservative, and he seems to have taken on Bono's tax hypocrisy as well. He sounds too much like one of "them" now. None of it will matter if the music remains good, of course, or Morrissey wouldn't have a career, but it's sad to see him buying into his own myth so much. Well i like both Foo Fighters and QOTSA but i kinda understand Noel's point of view about political music. Some bands are using that to sell records dont they (Prophets of rage ?) What's the big deal ? Noel has not been kind to Artic Monkeys or the Libertines as well in the past 15 years. We know Noel has shit tastes in music, it's nothing new. As for the "he is one of them", both Gallaghers have been "one of them" for 25 years. Just one is pretending not to be. The other is accepting his success and so should we. As long as he doesn't enlist to be a Tory MP, i'm fine. What matter is the record he's gonna put out. CY was not his best, let's hope this one is. He has often spoke highly of The Libertines and even said he would have liked to have produced their 3rd album if he had time to do it. He said they were the only band to connect with fans in a big way since Oasis...
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Post by rorymcbride on Nov 10, 2017 12:05:25 GMT -5
Do you reckon those sunglasses are prescription? Old age catching up to him and he doesn't want to be seen wearing his readers?
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