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Post by liamgallagher1992 on Nov 5, 2017 14:43:17 GMT -5
This original "wall of sound" Oasis had was basically to cover up the shite playing from the band members. I fail to see how Guigsy, Tony and Bonehead were musicians to aspire to sound like in any way. Rose tinted spectacles.
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Post by Jgrp on Nov 5, 2017 15:27:09 GMT -5
They’re def better than when they started n don’t think they ever deserved some of the shit they got on here. The only thing that done/does my head in is when they’ve got the wrong note on a real straight forward bit, like the first note of RNRS. Other than that they sound sharper now which is to be expected but were never too bad
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Post by garys on Nov 5, 2017 16:00:23 GMT -5
I think the band is fine although I would love it if Rkid had some proper vocal support on Morning Glory, Slide Away, Be Here Now etc.
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Post by drummert5 on Nov 5, 2017 16:06:42 GMT -5
Gotta remind that Noel's band didn't sound that great at the beggining. His guitar player was solid,he didn't fuck up but he didn't even try nothing new. Just do the record thing and thats all. And Russ vocals used to fuck every song where he sung. But now they are really good. So just give them time! That’s actually being pretty generous - Tim’s guitar took a long time to settle in (he’d never played lead before really) - some very uncertain Little By Little solos in 2011/12 The whole group were in much better shape for Chasing Yesterday.
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Post by fenderlender on Nov 6, 2017 2:36:16 GMT -5
The band is getting better. Liam seem to be taking care of his voice drinking stuff and reposing after a couple gigs. But he doesn't nail every single song. Chinatown was fucking terrible live,because of the voice and the guitar effects. Really happy that they dropped it out of the set. Maybe my only problems with the band are Jay Melher and their fucking sound engineer. Its not that I hate Jay,but he's really bad with some guitar bits (Rock n Roll Star,Wall Of Glass,Chinatown, even the intro note on Slide Away,ITS JUST ONE SLIDE NOTE FOR GOD SAKE). The bass player is alright and if the sound engineer wasn't a complete useless trash we could hear him in Morning Glory. His voice gives the song a different sound on the 'Weeeeell' bit. Drummer and the other guitar player are good I guess. I suppose that they will get better and better as they do more gigs. Gotta remind that Noel's band didn't sound that great at the beggining. His guitar player was solid,he didn't fuck up but he didn't even try nothing new. Just do the record thing and thats all. And Russ vocals used to fuck every song where he sung. But now they are really good. So just give them time! They don't play the picked Amaj7 part of the intro either. I was stood there the other night singing it like an idiot ahahaha
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Post by rickypaglais on Nov 6, 2017 2:56:29 GMT -5
This original "wall of sound" Oasis had was basically to cover up the shite playing from the band members. I fail to see how Guigsy, Tony and Bonehead were musicians to aspire to sound like in any way. Rose tinted spectacles. The live sound of the original Oasis lineup is untouchable IMO. Also, Bonehead is an underrated multi-instrumentalist.
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Post by liamgallagher1992 on Nov 6, 2017 3:03:37 GMT -5
This original "wall of sound" Oasis had was basically to cover up the shite playing from the band members. I fail to see how Guigsy, Tony and Bonehead were musicians to aspire to sound like in any way. Rose tinted spectacles. The live sound of the original Oasis lineup is untouchable IMO. Also, Bonehead is an underrated multi-instrumentalist. Thats fair enough but i see that more of the kind of charm of the time rather than them being great musicians. A bit like how some of the songs from that time are classed as far better than they would be if they were released now.
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Post by seanrulesrh on Nov 6, 2017 7:55:52 GMT -5
The band is getting better. Liam seem to be taking care of his voice drinking stuff and reposing after a couple gigs. But he doesn't nail every single song. Chinatown was fucking terrible live,because of the voice and the guitar effects. Really happy that they dropped it out of the set. Maybe my only problems with the band are Jay Melher and their fucking sound engineer. Its not that I hate Jay,but he's really bad with some guitar bits (Rock n Roll Star,Wall Of Glass,Chinatown, even the intro note on Slide Away,ITS JUST ONE SLIDE NOTE FOR GOD SAKE). The bass player is alright and if the sound engineer wasn't a complete useless trash we could hear him in Morning Glory. His voice gives the song a different sound on the 'Weeeeell' bit. Drummer and the other guitar player are good I guess. I suppose that they will get better and better as they do more gigs. Gotta remind that Noel's band didn't sound that great at the beggining. His guitar player was solid,he didn't fuck up but he didn't even try nothing new. Just do the record thing and thats all. And Russ vocals used to fuck every song where he sung. But now they are really good. So just give them time! They don't play the picked Amaj7 part of the intro either. I was stood there the other night singing it like an idiot ahahaha At least they play the same exact solo that Noel used to play on the last tour. Gotta say that I love that one.
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Post by mancraider on Nov 6, 2017 8:08:42 GMT -5
The live sound of the original Oasis lineup is untouchable IMO. Also, Bonehead is an underrated multi-instrumentalist. Thats fair enough but i see that more of the kind of charm of the time rather than them being great musicians. A bit like how some of the songs from that time are classed as far better than they would be if they were released now. The two things Oasis most had going for them was Noel's knack for writing great melodies and Liam's ability to delivers said melodies with such charisma and sneering arrogance. The music itself was never much more than basic and loud. Which suited the times and image and there is no shame in saying that, sometimes it's the simplest things in life that make the biggest impact. It could be argued that they started to decline when they began to try and expand their musical palette.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 6, 2017 8:23:07 GMT -5
Agree. I think he's good but he looks like a nervous wreck. I suspect he's a session guy who got persuaded to tour and isn't particularly enjoying it. I bet if you'd told him a year ago that he'd be playing a sold out arena tour within 12 months he'd have laughed in your face. Tbf Liam probably would too. Can't be forgotten just how much this has exploded from almost nowhere. I think he plays most of it well, perhaps with a better guitarist alongside him Mike might feel a bit more at ease. He may just have one of those faces, too. I think Mike would be more comfortable as a rhythm guitarist but he seems to be the more skilled one of the two so now he's doing lead which could make him extra nervous. Jay seems to be a great lad but I kinda wish Liam had someone really skilled in the lead guitar, someone with previous experience of touring. What is John Squire doing nowadays?
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Post by mancraider on Nov 6, 2017 8:34:39 GMT -5
I bet if you'd told him a year ago that he'd be playing a sold out arena tour within 12 months he'd have laughed in your face. Tbf Liam probably would too. Can't be forgotten just how much this has exploded from almost nowhere. I think he plays most of it well, perhaps with a better guitarist alongside him Mike might feel a bit more at ease. He may just have one of those faces, too. I think Mike would be more comfortable as a rhythm guitarist but he seems to be the more skilled one of the two so now he's doing lead which could make him extra nervous. Jay seems to be a great lad but I kinda wish Liam had someone really skilled in the lead guitar, someone with previous experience of touring. What is John Squire doing nowadays? unlikely I'd imagine but I'd love to see it. Can't imagine JS would be happy to simply be in a backing band so they'd have to form a proper band, wonder what their name could be. StoneOasis?
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Post by SheSaidHerNameWasDot on Nov 6, 2017 8:43:49 GMT -5
I think Mike would be more comfortable as a rhythm guitarist but he seems to be the more skilled one of the two so now he's doing lead which could make him extra nervous. Jay seems to be a great lad but I kinda wish Liam had someone really skilled in the lead guitar, someone with previous experience of touring. What is John Squire doing nowadays? unlikely I'd imagine but I'd love to see it. Can't imagine JS would be happy to simply be in a backing band so they'd have to form a proper band, wonder what their name could be. StoneOasis? Stoasis
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Post by mancraider on Nov 6, 2017 9:39:40 GMT -5
For all that Mike seems miserable on stage had to laugh around three minute mark where you can clearly see him belting out the lyrics along with Liam. Fanboys, haha. Jay seems to be laughing over at him just after lol.
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Post by magicman on Nov 6, 2017 14:32:40 GMT -5
For all that Mike seems miserable on stage had to laugh around three minute mark where you can clearly see him belting out the lyrics along with Liam. Fanboys, haha. Jay seems to be laughing over at him just after lol. nice moment there
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Post by kido44 on Nov 6, 2017 14:55:43 GMT -5
The band sound good and Mike has to stay as he is really helping the sound but maybe Jay should be replaced. Maybe someone like Nick McCabe ex The Verve or more realistically id like to see Steve Craddock as he is only a occasional touring member for Paul Weller these days and him and Liam have worked well together before.
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Post by madferitusa2025 on Nov 6, 2017 17:38:05 GMT -5
I've been alright with the band since the beginning Yeah that first RNRS note was an issue amongst others so noted here and other places. The sound guy had a steep learning curve. Seems like there has been steady improvement and now they have jelled nicely. TBF I don't dwell on that stuff too much anyway. Maybe that's my bad but, it takes a band time to achieve cohesion. I always thought Russel was great for Noel from the beginning, back when he was taking a hard beating on here. Now I see him getting compliments so...
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Post by mimmihopps on Nov 6, 2017 17:48:48 GMT -5
The band sound good and Mike has to stay as he is really helping the sound but maybe Jay should be replaced. Maybe someone like Nick McCabe ex The Verve or more realistically id like to see Steve Craddock as he is only a occasional touring member for Paul Weller these days and him and Liam have worked well together before.Cradock is a very busy man. He's not only playing with Weller for past 2 decades, but has been touring with The Specials these days. Also he and all the members of Weller's band released an album and toured last year (The Songbook Collective). He's also doing his solo work and at last but not least OCS. Great guitarist. I've seen him with Weller for 11 times, but haven't seen him with OCS yet.
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Post by asimarx on Nov 6, 2017 18:13:25 GMT -5
The band sound good and Mike has to stay as he is really helping the sound but maybe Jay should be replaced. Maybe someone like Nick McCabe ex The Verve or more realistically id like to see Steve Craddock as he is only a occasional touring member for Paul Weller these days and him and Liam have worked well together before. For all their faults, I've really grown to like the band. Maybe because they've already become a sort of collective that we're used to. Nick McCabe joining them however, would be like Jimmy Page joining The Darkness.
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Post by rickypaglais on Nov 6, 2017 18:49:49 GMT -5
The band sound good and Mike has to stay as he is really helping the sound but maybe Jay should be replaced. Maybe someone like Nick McCabe ex The Verve or more realistically id like to see Steve Craddock as he is only a occasional touring member for Paul Weller these days and him and Liam have worked well together before. For all their faults, I've really grown to like the band. Maybe because they've already become a sort of collective that we're used to. Nick McCabe joining them however, would be like Jimmy Page joining The Darkness. I Believe In A Whole Lotta Love
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Post by cigarsinhell on Nov 6, 2017 19:13:51 GMT -5
If I was playing guitar for a living legend like Liam Gallagher, I'd be nervous, too. But the important thing is to keep up and let Liam worry about the fireworks.
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Post by ninestonecowboy on Nov 6, 2017 19:21:30 GMT -5
Nick McCabe? i'm can't think of anything the man would enjoy less than playing old Oasis tunes and Liam's new songs. He would arguably be the worst fit out of anyone you could suggest. He's in a totally different place musically.
Anyway, i think the band have improved. I still find the guitarists to be the weak link. One is shit scared and the other is just shit. There's no real attack to their playing at all. The drummer has improved, he was obviously technically proficient anyway but seems to be a bit looser now, in a good way, his playing is still tight of course. Drew is solid, his playing does the job the songs require. He is a very good bassist anyway in general and plays his role well i think.
I do think they sound fine. I just think if the guitarists give it a bit more welly now and again and put some bollocks into the playing, it would take their live sound to another level. Liam seems to be enjoying touring with them anyway, which is good and half the battle anyway.
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Post by mancraider on Nov 6, 2017 19:31:31 GMT -5
Jay seems to play like he doesn't give a shit. Shades on permanently, never looking down at his guitar. Mike is the opposite, always checking what he's doing. It might make him look nervous but at least he seems to care.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 6, 2017 19:40:35 GMT -5
his band is.... serviceable.... i suppose. they're alright. but i'm telling you, there was something about seeing THE BAND up there together. i'm talking liam, gem, andy and chris. i guess i'm just an old man living in the past, time to let it go.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 6, 2017 19:48:32 GMT -5
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Post by garys on Nov 6, 2017 19:52:34 GMT -5
his band is.... serviceable.... i suppose. they're alright. but i'm telling you, there was something about seeing THE BAND up there together. i'm talking liam, gem, andy and chris. i guess i'm just an old man living in the past, time to let it go. No mate - I'm right there with you - that's the reason I had such high hopes for Beady - it was the band carrying on. But being witness to Liam 2.0 makes it all worthwhile.
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