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Post by mossy on Oct 8, 2017 4:30:20 GMT -5
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Post by icebreath on Oct 8, 2017 4:36:19 GMT -5
Guess what Noel? Nobody's perfect.
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Post by AppleScruff on Oct 8, 2017 4:42:33 GMT -5
There's a thread on the full Sunday Times interview
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Post by mossy on Oct 8, 2017 6:05:48 GMT -5
There's a thread on the full Sunday Times interview I didn't know that, apologies for making you click on this. On a side note, I really like George's jacket in your profile pic.
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Post by ricardogce on Oct 8, 2017 6:08:23 GMT -5
Guess what Noel? Nobody's perfect. Jesus you'll watch Liam tweet and do interview after interview calling noel a c*nt but as soon as noel responds Liam always comes off as having a laugh, even though he obviously has unresolved issues with Noel. Noel comes off as dead serious, so his comparatively milder statement feels more cutting. Liam comes off as that friend who runs his mouth and calls you every name under the sun, but deep down you know you're cool with each other. Noel sounds like your dad saying "I'm not angry, I'm just disappointed". Soul instantly crushed.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 8, 2017 6:11:22 GMT -5
In Liam's defence his intentions were good
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Post by Deleted on Oct 8, 2017 6:12:47 GMT -5
Liam taking the piss out of Noel is all good fun but he shouldn't have said anything when it came to the Manchester stuff.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 8, 2017 6:33:21 GMT -5
NME must be excited now that Noel has ended his silence, and they can keep writing multiple Gallagher stories per day.
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Post by scyhopath on Oct 8, 2017 8:08:37 GMT -5
I can agree with Noel on that one.
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Post by thomaslivesforever on Oct 8, 2017 8:11:51 GMT -5
Liam isn't ill, he just a very naughty boy.
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Post by spaneli on Oct 8, 2017 8:17:27 GMT -5
Jesus you'll watch Liam tweet and do interview after interview calling noel a c*nt but as soon as noel responds Liam always comes off as having a laugh, even though he obviously has unresolved issues with Noel.Noel comes off as dead serious, so his comparatively milder statement feels more cutting. Liam comes off as that friend who runs his mouth and calls you every name under the sun, but deep down you know you're cool with each other. Noel sounds like your dad saying "I'm not angry, I'm just disappointed". Soul instantly crushed. Manchester stuff didn't come off as that to me.... The distinctions people on the brothers are weird.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 8, 2017 8:28:19 GMT -5
Liam isn't ill, he just a very naughty boy. Ain’t that the truth!
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Post by RocketMan on Oct 8, 2017 8:29:20 GMT -5
NME must be excited now that Noel has ended his silence, and they can keep writing multiple Gallagher stories per day. i guess the live4ever mods are pretty excited too
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Post by ricardogce on Oct 8, 2017 8:29:33 GMT -5
Liam always comes off as having a laugh, even though he obviously has unresolved issues with Noel.Noel comes off as dead serious, so his comparatively milder statement feels more cutting. Liam comes off as that friend who runs his mouth and calls you every name under the sun, but deep down you know you're cool with each other. Noel sounds like your dad saying "I'm not angry, I'm just disappointed". Soul instantly crushed. Manchester stuff didn't come off as that to me.... The distinctions people on the brothers are weird. I've said elsewhere he should have kept out of that one. My post was rather kind towards Noel. Distinctions people make, indeed.
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Post by AppleScruff on Oct 8, 2017 8:47:46 GMT -5
There's a thread on the full Sunday Times interview I didn't know that, apologies for making you click on this. On a side note, I really like George's jacket in your profile pic. Sorry didn't mean that post to sound arsey there!
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Post by sfsorrow on Oct 8, 2017 10:50:49 GMT -5
Guess what Noel? Nobody's perfect. Doesn't mean that nobody should see a psychiatrist. When you are essentially a functional alcoholic and former drug addict, have had two children with two different women while being married to another woman, have been involved in a road rage incident, been arrested for instigating destructive brawls, and can't go a week without taking an immature shot at the brother who has refused to see you for nearly 10 years because of your "scary" behaviour, then chances are you probably want to sort some stuff out with someone.
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Post by freddy838 on Oct 8, 2017 11:20:06 GMT -5
Guess what Noel? Nobody's perfect. Doesn't mean that nobody should see a psychiatrist. When you are essentially a functional alcoholic and former drug addict, have had two children with two different women while being married to another woman, have been involved in a road rage incident, been arrested for instigating destructive brawls, and can't go a week without taking an immature shot at the brother who has refused to see you for nearly 10 years because of your "scary" behaviour, then chances are you probably want to sort some stuff out with someone. Don't think Noel or Liam have ever been dependant on drugs or alcohol. As Noel once said, the only people he knew that never went to The Priory were him and Liam. Liam does say more positive things about Noel than negative, from the interviews I've read and heard this year.
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Post by sfsorrow on Oct 8, 2017 11:32:08 GMT -5
Doesn't mean that nobody should see a psychiatrist. When you are essentially a functional alcoholic and former drug addict, have had two children with two different women while being married to another woman, have been involved in a road rage incident, been arrested for instigating destructive brawls, and can't go a week without taking an immature shot at the brother who has refused to see you for nearly 10 years because of your "scary" behaviour, then chances are you probably want to sort some stuff out with someone. Don't think Noel or Liam have ever been dependant on drugs or alcohol. As Noel once said, the only people he knew that never went to The Priory were him and Liam. Liam does say more positive things about Noel than negative, from the interviews I've read and heard this year. I could be wrong but Liam seems to exhibit dependent behaviour as far as I can see. Noel not as much as he was able to kick the hard stuff cold turkey.
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Post by sfsorrow on Oct 8, 2017 12:25:40 GMT -5
What did they say?
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Post by cigarsinhell on Nov 8, 2017 18:39:52 GMT -5
Liam appears to have been more upset with Noel breaking up Oasis than he was with either of his marriages going down the drain; he probably loved Oasis a lot more than Patsy and/or Nicole. I DO believe that Noel intended to fracture the band for a long time before he acted upon it close to the end of the 2009 tour, and deliberately provoked Liam into an altercation where he could claim fear of violence. Everyone knows that Noel ALWAYS gets the better of it in every fight they've ever had. It may have been Noel's only safe legal option to dump Liam from a band they both owned, and to get the lion's share of the blame shifted onto Liam. I think things would have been a lot better if Noel/Liam did as Mick/Keef have--do occasional solo projects but keep in mind where the big bread is buttered.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 8, 2017 19:01:04 GMT -5
Liam appears to have been more upset with Noel breaking up Oasis than he was with either of his marriages going down the drain; he probably loved Oasis a lot more than Patsy and/or Nicole. I DO believe that Noel intended to fracture the band for a long time before he acted upon it close to the end of the 2009 tour, and deliberately provoked Liam into an altercation where he could claim fear of violence. Everyone knows that Noel ALWAYS gets the better of it in every fight they've ever had. It may have been Noel's only safe legal option to dump Liam from a band they both owned, and to get the lion's share of the blame shifted onto Liam. I think things would have been a lot better if Noel/Liam did as Mick/Keef have--do occasional solo projects but keep in mind where the big bread is buttered. I think it happened because of 2 reasons: 1. Noel could blame Liam for split of Oasis; 2. If there ever will be a reunion there will be a much bigger hype now instead of each going a different way in peace.
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Post by shinpad on Nov 8, 2017 19:43:00 GMT -5
Sort of a pot calling the kettle black situation.
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Post by cigarsinhell on Nov 8, 2017 20:12:18 GMT -5
Sort of a pot calling the kettle black situation. Neither of these blokes is exactly Mr. Congeniality by nature. To tell you the truth--in my humble opinion--Noel and Liam have trouble getting along because they're JUST ALIKE. Both alpha males, both love Man City, love the Beatles, love the booze and smokes, love the ladies. And that alpha male thang gets tough because they BOTH want to be The Man. I see no evidence that Noel ever does anything on impulse--I think he DID talk to guys like Marr and Weller on How Do I Ditch My Band, I think he planned exactly when and where it would happen, and baiting Liam into a tussle is child's play for Noel. Liam says he walked into a trap and I believe him--he should have known better. Noel had that "with great relief and some sadness" blurb prepped well in advance. I love both brothers but Noel is a HELL of a lot smarter and more manipulative. I'm not saying I'm the psychiatrist to either of these blokes, but I've been watching this same crap out of them both since 1994.
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Post by sfsorrow on Nov 8, 2017 22:17:12 GMT -5
I have no doubt that Noel had been thinking about going solo for some time but I don't think he needed to bait Liam into acting in a way that was abusive enough for him to finally leave.
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Post by cigarsinhell on Nov 8, 2017 23:00:19 GMT -5
I have no doubt that Noel had been thinking about going solo for some time but I don't think he needed to bait Liam into acting in a way that abusive enough for him to finally leave. Konspiracy Korner: All A Part of the Master Plan: It doesn't take THAT much work to set Liam off, does it? Noel is a master manipulator--especially when it comes to Liam, but there are other examples on record over the years of Noel playing people like violins. As for Liam's 'abusive behavior', the accounts have varied from a plum being thrown somewhere, to Liam almost chopping off Noel's head with an axe, to the guitar being smashed was Liam's--a gift from Nicole and wrecked by Noel himself. If we're talking about violent episodes, how 'bout that time Noel broke Liam's foot with a cricket bat? Breaking bones in the foot of a healthy young man takes a little bit of "ooomph" behind swinging that bat. Don't let Noel fool you--he's no gentle little flower. How many members of Oasis walked out with Noel because they were afraid of big bad Liam? Which of the eyewitnesses to the Paris event have come before a microphone and shrieked, "He was a madman! He almost killed Noel!" Look at the events in the months leading up to Paris: Noel did state he wanted to do a solo album and Liam said he "wasn't having it." So much for sending up THAT trial balloon. By this, Noel would have hhad is answer as to whether he could leave the band without a big hassle. (Notably, I don't have the exact dates or who was talking to who on these quotes--but look them up--they're all online from the time of the DOYS tour). On tour, Noel wrote a series of extensive "Tales from the Road" messages to fans--which we ALL lapped up like vodka. I loved it that Noel was talking to us peons. But was he so generous with his time because he wanted to reach out to those of us (like me) who would take a bullet for him? Long history says Our Beloved Chief would sooner put all that time to use with the usual drinking, smoking, and whoring. Why did he choose that particular time frame to communicate so much, KNOWING it would be the perfect vehicle for him to drop his bombshell at just the right moment? Everyone all tuned in to him, sympathetic toward him, all primed and ready for him? So Noel has his big diva walkabout, the big statement zipping out like a laser beam. Meanwhile, here is Liam, looking like an idiot, getting bad press, boos, and hisses like Hitler's kid brother. Not to say it's hard to make Liam look like an idiot. And Liam is no angel, either. He's not a boy for a girl to take home to meet her mother. He's not sitting with the honor students. He has abominable manners, a bad thyroid, psoriasis, and plenty of warts. But could he plan what I've described here? Absolutely not. Could Noel? Without a doubt, yes. And yes, I do have extra time on my hands tonight. But do the math, too, as scholars of all things Oasis . . . .
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