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Post by joladella on Jul 7, 2017 8:12:57 GMT -5
I thought "forget about the middle and end" was "forget about the moon landing" the first few times I heard it. In fairness, my 5 year old son thought he said something about lemonade, not me. Still hilarious though. I hear "eliminate new Roses" and immediately think of him wanting to preserve the Stone Roses legend.
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Post by liammuc on Jul 7, 2017 10:03:24 GMT -5
After listening to it a few times - I like it. I don't know if I am the only one but i always find myself singing additional lyrics in the chorus like Liam forgot some beats. I mean the "Show me that you know some places" and "All our lives we've both been waiting" parts. For me its sounds better if you add a word or two at the end.
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Post by spud on Jul 7, 2017 11:46:54 GMT -5
I much prefer Liam's vocal here, less nasally:
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Post by Rolo on Jul 7, 2017 13:22:52 GMT -5
Liam pretty much nails it. The guitar is fucking all over the place though.
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Post by Velo on Jul 7, 2017 13:31:31 GMT -5
i really didn't think he'd be able to hit the notes, so it's good to know he can.
now about those high notes in greedy soul...
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Post by MacaRonic on Jul 7, 2017 13:33:39 GMT -5
This song is after growing on me quite a bit since we first heard it.
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Post by The Escapist on Jul 7, 2017 13:45:49 GMT -5
Just remember that the second single could have been Bold, For What it's Worth, or Paper Crown. Releasing Chinatown was a BIG mis-step.
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Post by underneaththesky on Jul 8, 2017 11:09:59 GMT -5
been away for couple of weeks, with the holiday missus in Chinatown (not in London though - or wherever it might be), and some places too fuckin right. lovely tune. a nice walk, I'd say.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 8, 2017 13:53:50 GMT -5
Just remember that the second single could have been Bold, For What it's Worth, or Paper Crown. Releasing Chinatown was a BIG mis-step. Yeah, cos it's a terrible song that nobody likes.
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Post by tomlivesforever on Jul 8, 2017 14:02:58 GMT -5
Just remember that the second single could have been Bold, For What it's Worth, or Paper Crown. Releasing Chinatown was a BIG mis-step. You need to seperate what you think personally and what people think at large. I'm not a huge fan of the song while I recognise its decent. I've seen a good reaction from many and many outside the Oasis fan base.
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Post by Lennon2217 on Jul 8, 2017 14:17:25 GMT -5
Just remember that the second single could have been Bold, For What it's Worth, or Paper Crown. Releasing Chinatown was a BIG mis-step. Nah. A misstep is launching your new band identify with Bring The Light. I even like the song but that was a real head scratcher for Oasis and non Oasis fans alike. Four Letter Word was the real choice. It's like a rock n roll whip on fire saying, "HELLO.....WE'RE BACK!!!".
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Post by The Escapist on Jul 8, 2017 14:48:44 GMT -5
Just remember that the second single could have been Bold, For What it's Worth, or Paper Crown. Releasing Chinatown was a BIG mis-step. You need to seperate what you think personally and what people think at large. I'm not a huge fan of the song while I recognise its decent. I've seen a good reaction from many and many outside the Oasis fan base. Exactly, decent. It's a decent-enough song that's got decent-enough reactions from the not-that-many people who've heard it. It doesn't attract any attention to Liam in the slightest and only serves to bring down expectations from Wall of Glass. On the other hand, a song like Paper Crown or Bold (or For What it's Worth, based on reactions) would get good radio-play where they could, bring more attention to Liam, and get the wider music world to pay attention to his forthcoming album. He could play them on TV, play them live, really use them to keep his momentum going simply because they're much better songs. There is absolutely no reason to release a song so obviously fitting album-track placement over one of one of those - even though I think it's alright, Chinatown is a terrible choice for second single. And Lennon2217, that's not a mis-step, that's a criminal offense.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 8, 2017 15:21:46 GMT -5
I like Chinatown but can see how people think it's not a strong choice to keep the momentum going from wall off glass, however I think maybe it's not a bad choice myself. It's still a long way to the album release which is when they want to peak. I think the reaction to WoG has exceeded their expectations but it doesn't make sense to release one of the big singles this far out. Chinatown is a nice bonus for pre ordering the album and keeps things bubbling along. Then a strong single (greedy soul for me) in august then FWIW mid September hyped to the hilt to support the album launch.
Don't know what there plans are but that's what makes sense to me.
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Post by justaroundmidnight on Jul 8, 2017 20:37:15 GMT -5
not bad
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Post by Lennon2217 on Jul 8, 2017 21:09:36 GMT -5
I like Chinatown but can see how people think it's not a strong choice to keep the momentum going from wall off glass, however I think maybe it's not a bad choice myself. It's still a long way to the album release which is when they want to peak. I think the reaction to WoG has exceeded their expectations but it doesn't make sense to release one of the big singles this far out. Chinatown is a nice bonus for pre ordering the album and keeps things bubbling along. Then a strong single (greedy soul for me) in august then FWIW mid September hyped to the hilt to support the album launch. Don't know what there plans are but that's what makes sense to me. Yeah. Don't shoot all your wad up front months prior.
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Post by liamgallagher1992 on Jul 9, 2017 2:40:48 GMT -5
Just remember that the second single could have been Bold, For What it's Worth, or Paper Crown. Releasing Chinatown was a BIG mis-step. Nah. A misstep is launching your new band identify with Bring The Light. I even like the song but that was a real head scratcher for Oasis and non Oasis fans alike. Four Letter Word was the real choice. It's like a rock n roll whip on fire saying, "HELLO.....WE'RE BACK!!!". Agreed but i think that is easy for us to say in hindsight. The choice was, do we stick to conventional Oasis or do we show people this is a new band? It was a ballsy move but also an arrogant one. The marketing team believed everyone would instantly know Beady eye and Liam was enough of a pull for anything.
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Post by tomlivesforever on Jul 9, 2017 4:03:38 GMT -5
You need to seperate what you think personally and what people think at large. I'm not a huge fan of the song while I recognise its decent. I've seen a good reaction from many and many outside the Oasis fan base. Exactly, decent. It's a decent-enough song that's got decent-enough reactions from the not-that-many people who've heard it. It doesn't attract any attention to Liam in the slightest and only serves to bring down expectations from Wall of Glass. On the other hand, a song like Paper Crown or Bold (or For What it's Worth, based on reactions) would get good radio-play where they could, bring more attention to Liam, and get the wider music world to pay attention to his forthcoming album. He could play them on TV, play them live, really use them to keep his momentum going simply because they're much better songs. There is absolutely no reason to release a song so obviously fitting album-track placement over one of one of those - even though I think it's alright, Chinatown is a terrible choice for second single. And Lennon2217, that's not a mis-step, that's a criminal offense. You are making some big assumptions there especially about a song we've not yet heard. Chinatown was not a full blown single realease. It was an interesting teaser with the pre orders, that seemed to get some attention outside the main fanbase. Not a problem putting that out there now if they have some big tunes to come.
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Post by Lennon2217 on Jul 9, 2017 6:47:13 GMT -5
Nah. A misstep is launching your new band identify with Bring The Light. I even like the song but that was a real head scratcher for Oasis and non Oasis fans alike. Four Letter Word was the real choice. It's like a rock n roll whip on fire saying, "HELLO.....WE'RE BACK!!!". Agreed but i think that is easy for us to say in hindsight. The choice was, do we stick to conventional Oasis or do we show people this is a new band? It was a ballsy move but also an arrogant one. The marketing team believed everyone would instantly know Beady eye and Liam was enough of a pull for anything. I don't know about that one. It's still pretty recent in my mind. If my memory serves correct the first thing we got was a 30 second teaser of this really really fucking cool guitar part (later turning out to be a cover), then Bring The Light in November/December 2010 and Four Letter Word on either Christmas or Boxing Day. Bring The Light stuck out. The majority of this forum at the time all said FLW was the right song to be first. Oasisy or not. Can't start on a whimper. Doesn't matter though. The past is the past and its solo time. So far Liam has got the masses excited and wondering his next move. Unlike Beady eye where mostly this forum only tracked his movements.
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Post by liamgallagher1992 on Jul 9, 2017 11:49:20 GMT -5
Agreed but i think that is easy for us to say in hindsight. The choice was, do we stick to conventional Oasis or do we show people this is a new band? It was a ballsy move but also an arrogant one. The marketing team believed everyone would instantly know Beady eye and Liam was enough of a pull for anything. I don't know about that one. It's still pretty recent in my mind. If my memory serves correct the first thing we got was a 30 second teaser of this really really fucking cool guitar part (later turning out to be a cover), then Bring The Light in November/December 2010 and Four Letter Word on either Christmas or Boxing Day. Bring The Light stuck out. The majority of this forum at the time all said FLW was the right song to be first. Oasisy or not. Can't start on a whimper. Doesn't matter though. The past is the past and its solo time. So far Liam has got the masses excited and wondering his next move. Unlike Beady eye where mostly this forum only tracked his movements. I dont deny that it was the wrong decision but at the time the decision was clearly to show the world it wasnt Oasis. To be perfectly honest, they were damned if they did, damned if they didnt in so many ways. The significance of the first song has been proven by Wall Of Glass though. Its created a great buzz for Liam and unless theres another huge artist that week, he will have his first no.1 album without Noel.
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Post by walterglass on Jul 9, 2017 12:44:44 GMT -5
I think he'll hit number one in the album charts as well.
On a related note, it's kinda bonkers to me to read people questioning the release of Chinatown not on how they feel about it but on the impact it might/might not have on others and what it may/may not do for Liam's profile and momentum.
We're music fans, not record company execs.
It sounds great to my lugholes. My lugholes know it's grand.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 9, 2017 13:57:55 GMT -5
I'm still listening to this, it's a really nice song. Had it on my playlist when I went running this morning.
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Post by sawdustrings on Jul 9, 2017 23:00:35 GMT -5
I like the melody but the lyrics are damn awful.
"Well the cops are taking over While everyone's in yoga 'Cause happiness is still a warm gun What's it to be free man? What's a European? Me I just believe in the sun"
Holy fuck that's horrible. Sounds like a Oasis parody band.
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Post by theone on Jul 10, 2017 0:18:52 GMT -5
I like the melody but the lyrics are damn awful. "Well the cops are taking over While everyone's in yoga 'Cause happiness is still a warm gun What's it to be free man? What's a European? Me I just believe in the sun" Holy fuck that's horrible. Sounds like a Oasis parody band. Shane on Liam for thinking this was ok.
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Post by dazed on Jul 10, 2017 2:41:31 GMT -5
instrumentally its clearly influenced by math rock bands like american football, seriously, am i the only one who thinks that? maybe its cuz not many people know american football, you guys should check this out, i think chinatown is liam's take on this sort of music, so the jagged live playing couldve been on purpose and everyones just not heard of this sort of stuff before.
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Post by Aman on Jul 10, 2017 6:23:14 GMT -5
I like the melody but the lyrics are damn awful. "Well the cops are taking over While everyone's in yoga 'Cause happiness is still a warm gun What's it to be free man? What's a European? Me I just believe in the sun" Holy fuck that's horrible. Sounds like a Oasis parody band. Honestly... it's Little James level.
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