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Post by uǝɥʇɐǝɥ on Mar 27, 2017 12:13:06 GMT -5
How do you think about him? Do you agree with him? Does it make you think differently about him?
Or is he just a fantasy of Neil Young? MerkenMerken
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Post by mimmihopps on Mar 27, 2017 12:45:38 GMT -5
The man who shouted as "I am an anarchist" 40 years ago and reunited Pistols for money. John Lydon/Rotten wasn't from working class actually.
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Post by Lennon2217 on Mar 27, 2017 13:42:50 GMT -5
Don't follow leaders, watch the parking meters!
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Post by uǝɥʇɐǝɥ on Mar 27, 2017 14:12:23 GMT -5
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Post by Derrick on Mar 27, 2017 14:22:15 GMT -5
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Post by idleroses on Mar 27, 2017 14:31:33 GMT -5
Bono brought peace to Northern Ireland don't ya know
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Post by uǝɥʇɐǝɥ on Mar 27, 2017 14:58:21 GMT -5
"Liberal educators such as George Galloway and Nigel Farage" - Morissey "Liberal educators"
Has he completely lost it? What a naive rhetoric! Marr's reaction is quite emotional. Nigel Farage isn't a "great bloke".
No way, Nigel Farage just isn't a great bloke!
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Post by uǝɥʇɐǝɥ on Mar 28, 2017 4:43:28 GMT -5
I've just visited the Morrissey Solo Proboards and I'm surprised, to find out how eloquent posts on here are,... even if the grammar isn't always perfect. It's really stunning how pragmatic and informative the discussions on this forum look, compared to the pseudo-intellectualism, that unfolds on there.
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Post by Mean Mrs. Mustard on Mar 28, 2017 4:47:01 GMT -5
What's all this cosying up with Trump about?
Tsk.
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Post by Norbert Gallhager on Mar 28, 2017 5:38:50 GMT -5
I've just visited the Morrissey Solo Proboards and I'm surprised, to find out how eloquent posts on here are,... even if the grammar isn't always perfect. It's really stunning how pragmatic and informative the discussions on this forum look, compared to the pseudo-intellectualism, that unfolds on there. It's indeed a shit forum. Full of people who seemingly can't stand Morrissey. Weird people. Not that it's not acveptable to not like Morrissey, but you don't go on a fan forum then. This is heaven comparee to Morrissey-solo. I don't know why it is like that but maybe they should Change that everybody can Post anonymously without creating an account. They don't ever get rid of the trolls that way...
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Post by theyknowwhatimean on Mar 28, 2017 6:01:46 GMT -5
Has-beens.
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Post by uǝɥʇɐǝɥ on Mar 28, 2017 13:58:46 GMT -5
It all reminds me of Kula Shaker's Crispian Mills, who had to desperatly kill Kula Shaker's legacy at their height in the 90's by talking about having a giant burning swastika on stage and that Hitler knew a lot more than he made out.
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Post by uǝɥʇɐǝɥ on Mar 28, 2017 14:19:08 GMT -5
I expected more of artists like him. Even if he's trying to make a point, why doesn't he make some art about it then? If he has some credibility left, why is he even on all these shows? He makes artists look daft as fvck.
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Post by The Escapist on Mar 29, 2017 14:02:06 GMT -5
So he actually sounds as ridiculous as he looks? Wasn't sure that was possible.
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Post by The Crimson Rambler on Mar 29, 2017 14:59:16 GMT -5
I don't agree with him but I don't care. I just like his music.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 29, 2017 15:20:32 GMT -5
First time I was ever aware of John Lydon was seeing him as 'that knob off the Country Life butter adverts'.
So from my perspective, he's a businessman first and foremost, with any appearance of anti-establishment character just being a deceptive self-serving act, just like any other pop act.
Supporting megaphones with feet, like Trump, Farage etc., just seems like a lazy gesture towards anti-establishment characteristics that he seems nowhere near as skilled at adopting as he used to be able to.
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Post by Gas Panic on Mar 30, 2017 3:37:13 GMT -5
The more I see & read up about John Lydon the more I cant stand the guy. When I was younger I had quite a lot of respect for him but as I get older the more I realise that he's actually a complete tosser. He was on that Gordan Ramsey programme the other night and I was cringing at his every word. He acts like an immature 14 year old and he is clearly a hypocrite.
I don't even rate or listen to the Sex Pistols anymore. A few years back I got into The Clash and realised that they utterly blew the Sex Pistols out of the water and haven't looked back since.
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Post by uǝɥʇɐǝɥ on Mar 30, 2017 4:36:22 GMT -5
He hits puberty in his 60's.
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Post by mkoasis on Mar 30, 2017 23:04:48 GMT -5
Of course we don't know these people personally and they are entitled to their own opinions and feelings, as we are. But it is a bit uncomfortable to see someone whose art was laced with so much social commentary and who made such a resounding impact culturally on so many like-minded fans make statements like those which seem to be so much to the contrary. Kind of like how Noel says some things that sound a bit ridiculous.
Is that just what happens to people as they get older? For example, we all know Morrissey is a bit odd but Nigel Farage? Really?
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Post by uǝɥʇɐǝɥ on Mar 31, 2017 1:53:57 GMT -5
Noel Gallagher started a Labour liberal, but seems to be aging into somewhat of a conservative. I guess, his comments about Corbyn were provocative but innocuous enough.
Noel and maybe even Morrissey would actually consider themselves, speaking as somebody from the left.
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Post by The Escapist on Mar 31, 2017 7:06:59 GMT -5
Noel Gallagher started a Labour liberal, but seems to be aging into somewhat of a conservative. I guess, his comments about Corbyn were provocative but innocuous enough. Noel and maybe even Morrissey would actually consider themselves, speaking as somebody from the left. Every time Noel offers another ignorant, faux-common-sense comment on politics, a tiny part of my soul dies. I don't want Definitely Maybe and (What's the Story) Morning Glory? to become the working class anthems from someone who thinks "too many people are going to die because of freedom of movement in Europe".
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Post by uǝɥʇɐǝɥ on Mar 31, 2017 12:21:32 GMT -5
You grow old and you grow cold and bitter. Others may exceed their tolerable limits. It depends on a lot of things, I guess, experience... mental health, physical energy. In their prime, Morrissey and Rotten were bursting with strength. Now they probably can't even identify with their younger selfes. They mooved away from their regrets. Phew... that sounds quite oversoft.
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Post by mystoryisgory on Mar 31, 2017 22:13:14 GMT -5
You grow old and you grow cold and bitter. Others may exceed their tolerable limits. It depends on a lot of things, I guess, experience... mental health, physical energy. In their prime, Morrissey and Rotten were bursting with strength. Now they probably can't even identify with their younger selfes. They mooved away from their regrets. Phew... that sounds quite oversoft. It's often said that people's views become more conservative as they get older. Which, quite frankly, frightens me! Imagine me being like Donald Trump!! theyknowwhatimean, knows what I mean, I bet he loses sleep over fear of becoming a Tory as he slowly but surely ages.
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Post by theyknowwhatimean on Apr 1, 2017 10:14:30 GMT -5
You grow old and you grow cold and bitter. Others may exceed their tolerable limits. It depends on a lot of things, I guess, experience... mental health, physical energy. In their prime, Morrissey and Rotten were bursting with strength. Now they probably can't even identify with their younger selfes. They mooved away from their regrets. Phew... that sounds quite oversoft. It's often said that people's views become more conservative as they get older. Which, quite frankly, frightens me! Imagine me being like Donald Trump!! theyknowwhatimean , knows what I mean, I bet he loses sleep over fear of becoming a Tory as he slowly but surely ages. --- It's true, I'm getting older. 20 next month... Still, I think it'll take me quite a few more birthdays yet, till I come to believe that 'trickle-down economics' actually works. Or that making healthcare inaccessible is a logical way in which to increase the productivity of your workforce...
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Post by matt on Apr 1, 2017 16:09:37 GMT -5
The only singers politics I can take seriously are Joe Strummer, Manic Street Preachers and Bruce Springsteen. It helps when there's great empathy and experience loaded in their songs. The rest is either wayward inconsistent bollocks like Morrissey or middle class navel gazing shite.
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