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Post by Deleted on Nov 14, 2016 20:21:23 GMT -5
I know there are some songwriters on here so I thought, why not open this thread to talk about it ? It can be about an idea, a song you just wrote, a lyric, a melody, whatever.
Anyone can take part of the (songwriter or not) and share his thoughts on the subject.
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Post by spaneli on Nov 15, 2016 0:31:14 GMT -5
Great thread idea!
I'm wondering what everyone's process for writing lyrics?
Do you mumble around? Do you lift lines from poetry/movie/books/other songs? Do you write lyrics before the music?
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Post by steve020409 on Nov 15, 2016 0:59:32 GMT -5
The pianist in my band is really good at making up melodies and lyrics right on spot. We would record it and I would revise it, make up chords, and add more parts to it. Recently, we have made a song about an Ostrich (Metaphorically), and it sounds pretty edgy. The song is in the key of A minor, and the lyrics is about a person who puts his head into the sand to avoid the reality.
It's actually a jocular song like Bonehead's Bank Holiday and Digsy's dinner, except that it sounds serious.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 15, 2016 5:33:01 GMT -5
Great thread idea! I'm wondering what everyone's process for writing lyrics? Do you mumble around? Do you lift lines from poetry/movie/books/other songs? Do you write lyrics before the music? Most of the time, I listen to the melody a lot, and just write about what I'm feeling at the moment or about a place I'm dreaming of. I always write lyrics after the melody. It can be a few weeks before I finish the lyrics to some of my songs.
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Post by draper on Nov 15, 2016 6:12:50 GMT -5
Around 2003-2004 I wrote around 25 songs. Just got to learn to play the guitar, at the same time my dad got sick and died, so I had a lot to get out of my system. Looking back on it, they're probably not that good, some decent melodies, some cliché lyrics, nicked Oasis lines here and there...
Still know a few of them by heart though.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 15, 2016 8:40:15 GMT -5
Rarely do lyrics ever come to me prior to a melody. Sometimes a topic, but never lyrics actually. Generally I strum some nonsense on the guitar and a melody comes from that. Occasionally I'll drop a rough demo of a track with lyrics made up in the moment and then return to it later and revise.
However, if you never go back to revise you could end up with a tune that someone likes that you can't recall how to play as well. My youngest son asks to listen the same song every night, and so we play him the rough recording. I've never played the song on the guitar since the recording was made a year and a half ago. Can't for the life of me remember how it goes either.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 15, 2016 8:59:02 GMT -5
Around 2003-2004 I wrote around 25 songs. Just got to learn to play the guitar, at the same time my dad got sick and died, so I had a lot to get out of my system. Looking back on it, they're probably not that good, some decent melodies, some cliché lyrics, nicked Oasis lines here and there... Still know a few of them by heart though. Sorry for your loss. Yes, I do think songwriting can be a great way to get things out of system aswell.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 15, 2016 9:11:20 GMT -5
I tried songwriting since I learned to write, but I never liked my lyrics does that count? I'm still trying, though. Still dislike everything.
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Post by steve020409 on Nov 15, 2016 11:58:49 GMT -5
I tried songwriting since I learned to write, but I never liked my lyrics does that count? I'm still trying, though. Still dislike everything. If you're an oasis fan, you really wouldn't care much about the lyrics
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Post by Deleted on Nov 15, 2016 12:04:26 GMT -5
I tried songwriting since I learned to write, but I never liked my lyrics does that count? I'm still trying, though. Still dislike everything. If you're an oasis fan, you really wouldn't care much about the lyrics 'm no Noel to be a godlike genius when writing lyrics, me boi. Nor Liam to write shit and just say "fuck off, 'm gonna show this to everyone".
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Post by World71R on Nov 15, 2016 16:52:47 GMT -5
Good idea for a thread! Some of us are discussing lyrics vs. melody on here which relates to how, before I got a legit guitar a couple years ago, I used to come up with lyrics that were based off melodies of songs I knew. I still have some of the papers floating around, and a couple of them are like "Love from Afar" and "To Be With You". Oh yea, and I also had a major crush on someone at that time so that made writing those lyrics pretty fun.
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Post by steve020409 on Nov 15, 2016 19:01:49 GMT -5
When I listen to music, I consider melody the most important, music (Chords and structures and all that stuff) second, and the lyrics last. This is probably the same when writing a song too.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 16, 2016 6:46:53 GMT -5
When I listen to music, I consider melody the most important, music (Chords and structures and all that stuff) second, and the lyrics last. This is probably the same when writing a song too. I agree. The melody is by far the most important part of the song, for me. Good lyrics are a nice bonus though.
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Post by arthurmorgan on Nov 16, 2016 11:10:05 GMT -5
Good lyrics are essential. That's why many local bands sound unoriginal
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Post by Frank Lee Vulgar on Nov 16, 2016 13:19:23 GMT -5
I've dabbled in songwriting for a few years now, and I still have no idea how to approach writing a fast rock n roll song. Ballads in A and E minor, sure, midtempo stuff in C and G, easy - but how do you write faster stuff on an acoustic?
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Post by Deleted on Nov 16, 2016 13:46:05 GMT -5
Good lyrics are essential. That's why many local bands sound unoriginal I do agree to a certain point. I think lyrics don't really need to mean something. What's the fuck Supersonic and Don't Look Back In Anger are all about ? Nobody knows but these songs are masterpieces because the melodies are genius. I understand what you say about some local bands and I agree. I think some of them lack of melodies more than anything.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 16, 2016 13:55:59 GMT -5
I've dabbled in songwriting for a few years now, and I still have no idea how to approach writing a fast rock n roll song. Ballads in A and E minor, sure, midtempo stuff in C and G, easy - but how do you write faster stuff on an acoustic? I had this problem aswell, when I've started the songwriting process. I think that first, you need to look at your favourite rock songs and see how they go. In my case, usually write them in the key of A, D or even B. I usually try 2/3 chords change with a fast tempo, find a melody and then, here I go. I think it's the most difficult kind of tracks to write at the beginning, though.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 16, 2016 14:20:04 GMT -5
By the way, guys, what are your biggest inspirations when it comes to write melodies?
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Post by Deleted on Nov 16, 2016 17:30:25 GMT -5
By the way, guys, what are your biggest inspirations when it comes to write melodies? If I actually said "it comes all of sudden", would you think I'm lying? Because yeah, my life's pretty boring and I often "inspire" myself in things that don't exist or never happened with me.
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Post by steve020409 on Nov 16, 2016 23:42:02 GMT -5
By the way, guys, what are your biggest inspirations when it comes to write melodies? Right before I read your post, I aksed my self "Wouldn't your melody be similar (or ripping off) if it was inspired by another melody?" So I don't really think of original songs to make my own melody. But for chords and vibe, I probably get inspired by Oasis a lot
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Post by Deleted on Mar 22, 2017 17:20:22 GMT -5
Guys, I have a question. Thanks to guigsysEstring and World71R , I have bought a Samson Go Mic to record my songs demos. It sounds for simple acoustic tracks but now, we're a band of 5 musicians, are a computer with audacity and a samson Go Mic enough to record quality full band demos ? If not, what gear would you advice ?
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Post by World71R on Mar 22, 2017 23:17:43 GMT -5
Guys, I have a question. Thanks to guigsysEstring and World71R , I have bought a Samson Go Mic to record my songs demos. It sounds for simple acoustic tracks but now, we're a band of 5 musicians, are a computer with audacity and a samson Go Mic enough to record quality full band demos ? If not, what gear would you advice ? Now would be the time to purchase an interface and some microphones. If you have a band of a singer, guitarist, bass guitarist, drummer, and one other person, you'll need about 4-5 more mics, at least, and a Scarlett interface that can take all of those. I'd recommend getting ones with an XLR port as that's what the Scarlett interfaces take. Definitely take a look around at the Scarlett website and also on Amazon for microphones, I think you'll be able to find what you need.
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Post by Mr. Bigglesworth on Jun 1, 2017 7:43:12 GMT -5
Great thread idea! I'm wondering what everyone's process for writing lyrics? Do you mumble around? Do you lift lines from poetry/movie/books/other songs? Do you write lyrics before the music? Most of the times I feel like a guy with a big net catching words. I never sat down writing songs. Always felt the songs wanted to be written just passed by me and my guitar.
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Post by Mr. Bigglesworth on Jun 1, 2017 7:44:57 GMT -5
I've dabbled in songwriting for a few years now, and I still have no idea how to approach writing a fast rock n roll song. Ballads in A and E minor, sure, midtempo stuff in C and G, easy - but how do you write faster stuff on an acoustic? cocaine!
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