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Post by mossy on Aug 27, 2016 3:00:11 GMT -5
His talent is for singing songs, not writing them, so why restrict him to his "own" material? That didn't work out so well last time round. Many would argue Liam has some ownership of those songs his voice made iconic, even if he didn't write them. Also, *everything* he sang didn't sound too hot last time I saw him... so that's not an argument for him to only sing his own material over Oasis classics! It's an argument for him to get to bed early on this tour, gargle honey and stay off the charlie... Well, on MY dream setlist, that doesn't happen. And I believe that was the point of this thread, no? Although I'd rather hear him do an Oasis song than a cover, which is a waste of time if you ask me. And now we're discussing it, which is the point of a forum, no? I don't understand how your dream setlist consists only of Liam written songs, when you've said in several other posts that you haven't liked Liam's output post-Oasis that much and are skeptical about his solo album being any good. Personally, given that Oasis have been split for 7 years now and are unlikely to reform any time soon, if at all, I'm really looking forward to the opportunity to see Liam sing the classics again. I like Noel's new versions of Supersonic, Champage Supernova etc but it will be great to see Liam do them again. Also, Liam may play some songs which Noel, and even Oasis, avoided e.g. anything off BHN! That would be in my dream setlist. And all those times I saw Oasis cover My Generation and I Am The Walrus: time I'm never going to get back, complete waste of my life ;-P
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Post by mossy on Aug 27, 2016 3:30:38 GMT -5
Why not? Liam wasn't the one who wanted to stop with Oasis, if he likes to play these songs why not? I'd rather he performs his own written songs only, whether that be songs for this solo project, Oasis or Beady Eye. Then he'll be working solely off his own merits and will avoid the inevitable critisism of playing songs written by his brother or anyone else. That strategy worked so well first time round :-) I get your sentiment, but the fact is I've not seen Oasis live for over 7 years now and I'm hankering to see those songs played again. As will many other hardcore and casual fans. Unless his album is solid gold, gets rave reviews and has a hit single, padding out his set with Oasis songs is the only way he's going to sell out decent tours now. I think the music press will criticise him less this time given his stance with BDI first time round, but even if he does get criticised the general public who buy tickets for a chance to see Wonderwall live again won't care less. It's not like the press were always that favourable to Oasis anyway! Liam cares more about full gigs than journalists words I think.
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Post by arthurmorgan on Aug 27, 2016 4:34:47 GMT -5
He might play the following Oasis songs
Rock 'n' Roll Star Live Forever Columbia Supersonic Cigarettes & Alcohol Slide Away Wonderwall Morning Glory Champagne Supernova Stand By Me
Not so sure about Stand By Me but it's rather easy to sing and it's still a well known track. I would be surprised if he plays more than two or three songs from the 2000s or by BDI. And honestly I'm not interested to hear more than that.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 27, 2016 4:43:48 GMT -5
Its time for Tom Jones to sing his own songs!
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Post by Adam on Aug 27, 2016 5:19:45 GMT -5
I'd rather he performs his own written songs only, whether that be songs for this solo project, Oasis or Beady Eye. Then he'll be working solely off his own merits and will avoid the inevitable critisism of playing songs written by his brother or anyone else. That strategy worked so well first time round :-) I get your sentiment, but the fact is I've not seen Oasis live for over 7 years now and I'm hankering to see those songs played again. As will many other hardcore and casual fans. Unless his album is solid gold, gets rave reviews and has a hit single, padding out his set with Oasis songs is the only way he's going to sell out decent tours now. I think the music press will criticise him less this time given his stance with BDI first time round, but even if he does get criticised the general public who buy tickets for a chance to see Wonderwall live again won't care less. It's not like the press were always that favourable to Oasis anyway! Liam cares more about full gigs than journalists words I think. To be fair, Beady Eye were damned either way.
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Post by mossy on Aug 27, 2016 5:26:34 GMT -5
That strategy worked so well first time round :-) I get your sentiment, but the fact is I've not seen Oasis live for over 7 years now and I'm hankering to see those songs played again. As will many other hardcore and casual fans. Unless his album is solid gold, gets rave reviews and has a hit single, padding out his set with Oasis songs is the only way he's going to sell out decent tours now. I think the music press will criticise him less this time given his stance with BDI first time round, but even if he does get criticised the general public who buy tickets for a chance to see Wonderwall live again won't care less. It's not like the press were always that favourable to Oasis anyway! Liam cares more about full gigs than journalists words I think. To be fair, Beady Eye were damned either way. Probably true of Liam solo too. So he may as well please the fans who are going to be paying his wages!
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Post by themightyeye on Aug 27, 2016 5:36:13 GMT -5
He won't sing wonderwall... he's made it very clear he hates singing that song.
Hopefully he doesn't sing any beady eye songs.
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Post by Mean Mrs. Mustard on Aug 27, 2016 5:56:19 GMT -5
He won't sing wonderwall... he's made it very clear he hates singing that song. Hopefully he doesn't sing any beady eye songs. That didn't stop him from performing it with Beady Eye multiple times though.
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Post by supernovadragon on Aug 27, 2016 5:58:10 GMT -5
1. Solo 2. Solo 3. Solo 4. The Roller 5. Boy With The Blues 6. Songbird 7. Solo 8. Solo 9. Guess God Thinks Am Abel 10. Solo 11. Solo 12. D'Yer Know What I Mean? 13. I'm Just Saying 14. Solo 15. The Morning Son 16. Start Anew
17. Evil Eye 18. Solo 19. Solo 20. Rock N Roll Star
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Post by Mean Mrs. Mustard on Aug 27, 2016 6:10:58 GMT -5
Well, on MY dream setlist, that doesn't happen. And I believe that was the point of this thread, no? Although I'd rather hear him do an Oasis song than a cover, which is a waste of time if you ask me. And now we're discussing it, which is the point of a forum, no? I don't understand how your dream setlist consists only of Liam written songs, when you've said in several other posts that you haven't liked Liam's output post-Oasis that much and are skeptical about his solo album being any good. Personally, given that Oasis have been split for 7 years now and are unlikely to reform any time soon, if at all, I'm really looking forward to the opportunity to see Liam sing the classics again. I like Noel's new versions of Supersonic, Champage Supernova etc but it will be great to see Liam do them again. Also, Liam may play some songs which Noel, and even Oasis, avoided e.g. anything off BHN! That would be in my dream setlist. And all those times I saw Oasis cover My Generation and I Am The Walrus: time I'm never going to get back, complete waste of my life ;-P Oh I can definitely see where you're coming from and I can see both sides of this. It's just that I agree with Chudders. I wouldn't really mind if he did an Oasis song though, I'd just rather he didn't. I rather have him do his own thing. Also, he struggled with so many of them. If he would do one, I'd like to hear him do something he can still sing and which he doesn't have to dumb down. With Beady Eye it came off as a bit desperate. Like "okay, no one gives a shit about our stuff, let's do Oasis songs now". I think Liam even alluded to that a couple of times during gigs. Didn't he once say something like "okay, you can go back to sleep now" after having performed an Oasis song? Or did I dream that? Of course he would sell more tickets if he'd perform Oasis songs. That's obvious.
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Post by bastardnumber1 on Aug 27, 2016 6:20:15 GMT -5
Don´t understand why most here put in 8-10 old songs in the setlist.
I guess when he starts touring he will have some more material. Let´s say he plays 10 of his new songs.
It´s enough when he plays 2(max.3) of Oasis and 2 of Beady Eye plus maybe a cover like I Am The Walrus/My Generation/Gimme Shelter. That´s 15-16 songs which is more than Beady Eye played at their first gigs.
What he should do which would make his gigs even more interesting is change those songs constantly. There are so many songs he could choose from why not do this for once even though he is a Gallagher.
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Post by supernovadragon on Aug 27, 2016 7:50:01 GMT -5
Having had a think about it. 20 songs is a bit bloody much. Beady Eye never done 20. So I am revising my setlist.
1. Solo 2. Solo 3. Solo 4. The Roller 5. Boy With The Blues 6. Solo 7. Solo 8. Evil Eye 9. Solo 10. The Morning Son 11. Guess God Thinks Am Abel 12. Born On A Different Cloud 13. Solo 14. Solo 15. Solo 16. My Generation
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Post by liamgallagher1992 on Aug 27, 2016 7:58:39 GMT -5
Liam genuinely has a real chance to unsettle Noel here.
If Liam produces an album full of daring songs with energy that are well recieved, live he can really draw in huge numbers if he adds in Oasis songs and keeps it interesting.
If he does so, this can only be a good thing for fans in general. It will make Noel massively up his game because he has become far too comfortable, especially live.
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Post by cloudburster on Aug 27, 2016 8:22:34 GMT -5
1. New song 2. New song 3. Supersonic 4. Cigarettes & alcohol 5. New song 6. Morning glory 7. New song 8. New song 9. Songbird 10. I'm outta time 11. Columbia 12. Slide away 13. New song 14. Gas panic! 15. New song 16. Champagne supernova
Encore 17. New song 18. Rock 'n' roll star
I picked these Oasis songs because these are the ones that Liam can actually pull off these days. Obviously he hasn't done Gas Panic in over 10 years but he could still do it justice. Plus 8 new songs because, well, at least 3 are bound to be shit!
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Post by theyknowwhatimean on Aug 27, 2016 10:15:39 GMT -5
Shitloads of oasis songs written by Noel.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 27, 2016 10:21:39 GMT -5
He won't sing wonderwall... he's made it very clear he hates singing that song. Hopefully he doesn't sing any beady eye songs. I think otherwise. I'm pretty sure that, if he plays some Oasis songs, he will play that one.
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Post by theyknowwhatimean on Aug 27, 2016 10:27:31 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on Aug 27, 2016 12:04:08 GMT -5
Having had a think about it. 20 songs is a bit bloody much. Beady Eye never done 20. So I am revising my setlist. 1. Solo 2. Solo 3. Solo 4. The Roller 5. Boy With The Blues 6. Solo 7. Solo 8. Evil Eye 9. Solo 10. The Morning Son 11. Guess God Thinks Am Abel 12. Born On A Different Cloud 13. Solo 14. Solo 15. Solo 16. My Generation Why include 'The Roller'? I know that music is entirely subjective but I really don't see why anybody would want to hear that song.
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Post by freddy838 on Aug 27, 2016 12:19:02 GMT -5
I agree with Mean Mrs Mustard, Liam seemed to get pissed off that the fans were up for the Oasis songs then dead for the rest of the set. I think he should go out and do all his new album and tell the crowd to like it or lump it. He'll probably have a couple more b-sides written by then, and I think throwing in a few proper covers like My Generation, Cry Baby Cry and Sons Of The Stage to flesh it out. He should have an acoustic bit in the middle too as that's when his voice sounds best nowadays and there are plenty of songs he's written in the past he can have a go at.
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Post by theyknowwhatimean on Aug 27, 2016 12:34:07 GMT -5
I agree with Mean Mrs Mustard, Liam seemed to get pissed off that the fans were up for the Oasis songs then dead for the rest of the set. I think he should go out and do all his new album and tell the crowd to like it or lump it. He'll probably have a couple more b-sides written by then, and I think throwing in a few proper covers like My Generation, Cry Baby Cry and Sons Of The Stage to flesh it out. He should have an acoustic bit in the middle too as that's when his voice sounds best nowadays and there are plenty of songs he's written in the past he can have a go at. I've not read what Mean Mrs Mustard posted originally, but I'm not sure you can put the blame on Liam seeming to be pissed off at the Beady Eye gigs in 2013 squarely on fans reacting more favourably to the Oasis songs, than to Beady Eye ones. I think he was pretty just much pissed off ALL THE TIME anyway, in those couple of months after BE came out. The album had bombed commercially, and there had some scathing reviews both from critics and 'fans' alike. Then there was the story of his lovechild with that American reporter. He was up shit creek basically. So even at the gig I went to, the very first of the tour, at the Manchester Ritz, where just about ALL the songs got a decent reaction, he looked like he didn't want to be there, slumping off stage as soon as he could and never saying a word all night. Rewind to before any of that shit happened, back when they first dropped Oasis songs, at the gig they did in Warrington in 2012, and he was positively lapping it up: "Right. Anybody who protests tonight, make their way to the bar. Mine's a double brandy. 'Rock 'n' Roll Star'!"
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Post by joladella on Aug 27, 2016 12:44:09 GMT -5
Yet again, I'd like to point out that at our show in Munich 2013 Liam was happy, playful and talkative and no one went dead for the rest of the set. F.ex. people went absolutely nuts for "The Roller", I think it was.
I'd say *yawn* but I guess we are only getting started with this ...
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Post by Deleted on Aug 27, 2016 13:09:14 GMT -5
I agree with Mean Mrs Mustard, Liam seemed to get pissed off that the fans were up for the Oasis songs then dead for the rest of the set. I think he should go out and do all his new album and tell the crowd to like it or lump it. He'll probably have a couple more b-sides written by then, and I think throwing in a few proper covers like My Generation, Cry Baby Cry and Sons Of The Stage to flesh it out. He should have an acoustic bit in the middle too as that's when his voice sounds best nowadays and there are plenty of songs he's written in the past he can have a go at. I've not read what Mean Mrs Mustard posted originally, but I'm not sure you can put the blame on Liam seeming to be pissed off at the Beady Eye gigs in 2013 squarely on fans reacting more favourably to the Oasis songs, than to Beady Eye ones. I think he was pretty just much pissed off ALL THE TIME anyway, in those couple of months after BE came out. The album had bombed commercially, and there had some scathing reviews both from critics and 'fans' alike. Then there was the story of his lovechild with that American reporter. He was up shit creek basically. So even at the gig I went to, the very first of the tour, at the Manchester Ritz, where just about ALL the songs got a decent reaction, he looked like he didn't want to be there, slumping off stage as soon as he could and never saying a word all night. Rewind to before any of that shit happened, back when they first dropped Oasis songs, at the gig they did in Warrington in 2012, and he was positively lapping it up: "Right. Anybody who protests tonight, make their way to the bar. Mine's a double brandy. 'Rock 'n' Roll Star'!" Does he shake hands with the guy the security is kicking off? There are times when this guy really shows he has something in him that cannot be bought. It remainds me the time of my profile pic. By the way, I think this face of him has been more unleashed in the post oasis era. I have seen Oasis, NHFB and Beady Eye, each once, and the first two where the same style of "by the book" gigs
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Post by supernovadragon on Aug 27, 2016 13:39:22 GMT -5
Having had a think about it. 20 songs is a bit bloody much. Beady Eye never done 20. So I am revising my setlist. 1. Solo 2. Solo 3. Solo 4. The Roller 5. Boy With The Blues 6. Solo 7. Solo 8. Evil Eye 9. Solo 10. The Morning Son 11. Guess God Thinks Am Abel 12. Born On A Different Cloud 13. Solo 14. Solo 15. Solo 16. My Generation Why include 'The Roller'? I know that music is entirely subjective but I really don't see why anybody would want to hear that song. I only included The Roller as it's the most well known, outside of the die-hards, Beady Eye song...even to the point it's actually on Singstar on the PlayStation. However, considering how Liam never written it I am prepared to swap it out for Bring The Light or even Little James
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Post by mossy on Aug 27, 2016 13:50:26 GMT -5
And now we're discussing it, which is the point of a forum, no? I don't understand how your dream setlist consists only of Liam written songs, when you've said in several other posts that you haven't liked Liam's output post-Oasis that much and are skeptical about his solo album being any good. Personally, given that Oasis have been split for 7 years now and are unlikely to reform any time soon, if at all, I'm really looking forward to the opportunity to see Liam sing the classics again. I like Noel's new versions of Supersonic, Champage Supernova etc but it will be great to see Liam do them again. Also, Liam may play some songs which Noel, and even Oasis, avoided e.g. anything off BHN! That would be in my dream setlist. And all those times I saw Oasis cover My Generation and I Am The Walrus: time I'm never going to get back, complete waste of my life ;-P Oh I can definitely see where you're coming from and I can see both sides of this. It's just that I agree with Chudders. I wouldn't really mind if he did an Oasis song though, I'd just rather he didn't. I rather have him do his own thing. Also, he struggled with so many of them. If he would do one, I'd like to hear him do something he can still sing and which he doesn't have to dumb down. With Beady Eye it came off as a bit desperate. Like "okay, no one gives a shit about our stuff, let's do Oasis songs now". I think Liam even alluded to that a couple of times during gigs. Didn't he once say something like "okay, you can go back to sleep now" after having performed an Oasis song? Or did I dream that? Of course he would sell more tickets if he'd perform Oasis songs. That's obvious. I can see both sides too. But this was a thread about a "dream" setlist and I think anyone whose dream setlist consists of only Beady Eye songs has very boring dreams :-P
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Post by mossy on Aug 27, 2016 13:51:49 GMT -5
Why include 'The Roller'? I know that music is entirely subjective but I really don't see why anybody would want to hear that song. I only included The Roller as it's the most well known, outside of the die-hards, Beady Eye song...even to the point it's actually on Singstar on the PlayStation. However, considering how Liam never written it I am prepared to swap it out for Bring The Light or even Little James Oh god please not Little James. This is a thread about dream setlists, not nightmare ones!
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