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Post by uǝɥʇɐǝɥ on Aug 25, 2016 14:47:25 GMT -5
Picture from the signing. Liam's new band looks.........bitchin'! I see Ewan McGregor got his haircut for the Trainspotting sequel. John Hurt on the right. They look like the cast of the name of The Name Of The Rose.
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Post by mkoasis on Aug 25, 2016 14:51:35 GMT -5
I still want Liam to perform BHN in its entirety live.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 25, 2016 14:51:53 GMT -5
That Oasis alumni can only take you so far. They were never part of proper Oasis. The one that dominated the globe between 1995-1997. that really has no relevance to a lot of people who transitioned from oasis in 09 to BDI and NGHFB. A high % of people at those 00's gig goers/ fans wont have seen oasis g1. (and now people may not even been there then for any oasis gigs) was agreeing that Liam gallagher being name will bring many more peoples eyes and web clicks or whatever than beady eye ever could (which wasn't acknowledged here much at time, people said that was just an excuse) The side point was that while liam was the star the others also did have fans and still do, so can't just say people weren't there to see them cos some fans were. While not the ideal as the noel acoustic gigs in dec were the most exciting things noels done CY era.. the amount of love for Gem for instance shows that I suppose there are fans who got into the band after 2000 and they simply don't know any different, but I personally went to Oasis gigs for Liam and Noel. I couldn't possibly care any less about Gem, Andy, or any of the other musicians that graced the stage with them post-2000.
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Post by underneaththesky on Aug 25, 2016 14:54:24 GMT -5
cannot wait!!! with the BE failure, being signed - he's got to have some great tunes... some SOUND that'll shake the fucking (Gallagher) world. let's hope so. some beasty beats, raw guitars and psychedelic keyboards.. with his voice on top of that, it could be amazing.
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Post by uǝɥʇɐǝɥ on Aug 25, 2016 15:06:05 GMT -5
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Post by space75gr on Aug 25, 2016 15:12:55 GMT -5
he s fucking Liam gallagher. he could sign with any company even if his new album was 70 minutes with him singing only 'nah nah nah"! a record deal has not to do with the quality of his new tunes it has to do only with his decision to release new music (under any name)
in uk its gonna be a big deal in every case
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Post by Jack on Aug 25, 2016 16:13:29 GMT -5
BHN Remaster, Mustique demos, Oasis doc and now a new Liam solo album. We actually have received everything we've wanted and more!
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Post by mystoryisgory on Aug 25, 2016 16:19:41 GMT -5
BHN Remaster, Mustique demos, Oasis doc and now a new Liam solo album. We actually have received everything we've wanted and more! But where's our Knebworth bluray?
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Post by matt on Aug 25, 2016 16:37:44 GMT -5
That Oasis alumni can only take you so far. They were never part of proper Oasis. The one that dominated the globe between 1995-1997. that really has no relevance to a lot of people who transitioned from oasis in 09 to BDI and NGHFB. A high % of people at those 00's gig goers/ fans wont have seen oasis g1. (and now people may not even been there then for any oasis gigs) was agreeing that Liam gallagher being name will bring many more peoples eyes and web clicks or whatever than beady eye ever could (which wasn't acknowledged here much at time, people said that was just an excuse) The side point was that while liam was the star the others also did have fans and still do, so can't just say people weren't there to see them cos some fans were. While not the ideal as the noel acoustic gigs in dec were the most exciting things noels done CY era.. the amount of love for Gem for instance shows that The 'love for Gem' on this site only ever seems to extend to the fact he 'looks cool' - if people think this is worthy of his praise, then folk really need to broaden their horizons. A decent guitarist? Yeah sure, but nothing special. Jake Bugg 'looked cool' apparently but when he opened his gob and sang, he was the very definition of uncool. Likewise Gem - his songs were utter gash. Nobody in their right mind would say' 'you know that Heavy Stereo were a top band'. We can say exactly the same for Andy (post Ride Andy when he seemed to be replaced by some imposter that made Les McQueen from The League of Gentleman look like Thom Yorke). Look, at best, they're nice guys but their musical palette was unbelievably limited (almost confined to one genre and one decade it seemed) to the point they hastened Oasis reputation as luddites (obviously not helped by Noel's lack of balls and conservatism). Thank god Liam won't be weighed down with their putrid offerings (Liam at least has melodic sensibilities that, if fleshed out with co-writers, can make for a good song), and has actually sought the assistance of professional songwriters this time - ideally what should have happened following the Oasis split. I'd rather the two of them were history - they're not Oasis as far as I'm concerned, and the one word that can be summed up by their contributions to all things Gallagher related is 'mediocrity'. Gem being Noel's sideman at the odd gig isn't going to make me think otherwise.
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Post by franklomax on Aug 25, 2016 16:50:35 GMT -5
This album should be fantastic. I have high expectations. The song from the pub was great.
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Post by jaq515 on Aug 25, 2016 16:52:01 GMT -5
that really has no relevance to a lot of people who transitioned from oasis in 09 to BDI and NGHFB. A high % of people at those 00's gig goers/ fans wont have seen oasis g1. (and now people may not even been there then for any oasis gigs) was agreeing that Liam gallagher being name will bring many more peoples eyes and web clicks or whatever than beady eye ever could (which wasn't acknowledged here much at time, people said that was just an excuse) The side point was that while liam was the star the others also did have fans and still do, so can't just say people weren't there to see them cos some fans were. While not the ideal as the noel acoustic gigs in dec were the most exciting things noels done CY era.. the amount of love for Gem for instance shows that The 'love for Gem' on this site only ever seems to extend to the fact he 'looks cool' - if people think this is worthy of his praise, then folk really need to broaden their horizons. A decent guitarist? Yeah sure, but nothing special. Jake Bugg 'looked cool' apparently but when he opened his gob and sang, he was the very definition of uncool. Likewise Gem - his songs were utter gash. Nobody in their right mind would say' 'you know that Heavy Stereo were a top band'. A songwriter who - when in Heavy Stereo - cites Gary Glitter as an influence (who was so crap even before his sick and twisted depravities were unveiled to the world) shows that Oasis were only ever going down the wrong path by letting him write. We can say exactly the same for Andy. Look, at best, they're nice guys but their musical palette was unbelievably limited (almost confined to one genre and one decade it seemed) to the point they hastened Oasis reputation as luddites (obviously not helped by Noel's lack of balls and conservatism). Thank god Liam won't be weighed down with their putrid offerings (Liam at least has melodic sensibilities that, if fleshed out with co-writers, can make for a good song), and has actually sought the assistance of professional songwriters this time - ideally what should have happened following the Oasis split. I'd rather the two of them were history - they're not Oasis as far as I'm concerned, and the one word that can be summed up by their contributions to all things Gallagher related is 'mediocrity'. Gem being Noel's sideman at the odd gig isn't going to make me think otherwise. funnily enough (and id say thankfully enough tbh) my thoughts on oasis fans or peoples ideas of Gem for instance don't stop at this site but good to read yours You commented on a 'side point' which was beady eye to some people wasn't liam and 2-3 others as lennon said (nothing to do with oasis as a whole) main point was that here on this forum people said liam would've done better under a liam led moniker and people disregarded it as an excuse for failure but seems that idea been resurrected and undoubtedly 'what ever will be will be' in theory seems like obvious progression tho at least from marketing perspective
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Post by underneaththesky on Aug 25, 2016 18:10:50 GMT -5
Gem is a great guitarist with some fucking attitude. was so glad he got back for that BBC gig back in December.
he ''looks cool''... what the fuck you on about? Go Let It Out, intros of Some Might Say and Morning Glory back in the 00's - Listen Up, Fade Away at the acoustic gigs.. and theres more than those... he nailed it big time
and he's the first to play The Masterplan solo... he was spot on, every solo Noel wrote in the 90's
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Post by underneaththesky on Aug 25, 2016 18:12:33 GMT -5
he s fucking Liam gallagher. who's fucking Debbie then?
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Post by matt on Aug 25, 2016 18:35:45 GMT -5
Gem is a great guitarist with some fucking attitude. was so glad he got back for that BBC gig back in December. he ''looks cool''... what the fuck you on about? Go Let It Out, intros of Some Might Say and Morning Glory back in the 00's - Listen Up, Fade Away at the acoustic gigs.. and theres more than those... he nailed it big time and he's the first to play The Masterplan solo... he was spot on, every solo Noel wrote in the 90's You see, I don't know why that's important - the minute people say this, it's scraping the barrel for compliments, as 'attitude' has nothing to do with musical talent. If only that 'attitude' translated into writing good songs....
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Post by matt on Aug 25, 2016 18:58:06 GMT -5
The 'love for Gem' on this site only ever seems to extend to the fact he 'looks cool' - if people think this is worthy of his praise, then folk really need to broaden their horizons. A decent guitarist? Yeah sure, but nothing special. Jake Bugg 'looked cool' apparently but when he opened his gob and sang, he was the very definition of uncool. Likewise Gem - his songs were utter gash. Nobody in their right mind would say' 'you know that Heavy Stereo were a top band'. A songwriter who - when in Heavy Stereo - cites Gary Glitter as an influence (who was so crap even before his sick and twisted depravities were unveiled to the world) shows that Oasis were only ever going down the wrong path by letting him write. We can say exactly the same for Andy. Look, at best, they're nice guys but their musical palette was unbelievably limited (almost confined to one genre and one decade it seemed) to the point they hastened Oasis reputation as luddites (obviously not helped by Noel's lack of balls and conservatism). Thank god Liam won't be weighed down with their putrid offerings (Liam at least has melodic sensibilities that, if fleshed out with co-writers, can make for a good song), and has actually sought the assistance of professional songwriters this time - ideally what should have happened following the Oasis split. I'd rather the two of them were history - they're not Oasis as far as I'm concerned, and the one word that can be summed up by their contributions to all things Gallagher related is 'mediocrity'. Gem being Noel's sideman at the odd gig isn't going to make me think otherwise. funnily enough (and id say thankfully enough tbh) my thoughts on oasis fans or peoples ideas of Gem for instance don't stop at this site but good to read yours You commented on a 'side point' which was beady eye to some people wasn't liam and 2-3 others as lennon said (nothing to do with oasis as a whole) main point was that here on this forum people said liam would've done better under a liam led moniker and people disregarded it as an excuse for failure but seems that idea been resurrected and undoubtedly 'what ever will be will be' in theory seems like obvious progression tho at least from marketing perspective I think so - it would have given him greater flexibility without the jibes of just being in a band that was 'Oasis Minus Noel'. The best thing about being a solo artist is you can do whatever you want to do. I think if Liam had done this and left Andy and Gem behind and started afresh it would have come with less baggage. Liam's big enough to be his own entity and with the right people around him would definitely be able to do well.
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Post by Lennon2217 on Aug 25, 2016 19:13:34 GMT -5
funnily enough (and id say thankfully enough tbh) my thoughts on oasis fans or peoples ideas of Gem for instance don't stop at this site but good to read yours You commented on a 'side point' which was beady eye to some people wasn't liam and 2-3 others as lennon said (nothing to do with oasis as a whole) main point was that here on this forum people said liam would've done better under a liam led moniker and people disregarded it as an excuse for failure but seems that idea been resurrected and undoubtedly 'what ever will be will be' in theory seems like obvious progression tho at least from marketing perspective I think so - it would have given him greater flexibility without the jibes of just being in a band that was 'Oasis Minus Noel'. The best thing about being a solo artist is you can do whatever you want to do. I think if Liam had done this and left Andy and Gem behind and started afresh it would have come with less baggage. Liam's big enough to be his own entity and with the right people around him would definitely be able to do well. I've always been pro solo career for both Gallaghers. Never dug the idea of LAG cotinuing basically as the same unit minus Noel. Too much of the focus was on that aspect and it wasn't really fair but it is what it is. I have big dreams for Liam. I hope this works. I hope it's something I'm listening to still in 2020. Good production and quality songwriting is all Liam needs. Forget the charts and sales. Just give a quality performance.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 25, 2016 20:47:14 GMT -5
BHN Remaster, Mustique demos, Oasis doc and now a new Liam solo album. We actually have received everything we've wanted and more! But where's our Knebworth bluray? I still think we will get this in 2016. Because of that clip from the My Big Mouth video.
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Post by tezza198 on Aug 25, 2016 22:29:41 GMT -5
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Post by thomaslivesforever on Aug 26, 2016 1:30:31 GMT -5
Maybe you could write them for him. Would be quite a grumpy record though. it might have some decent tunes, though. We have a section for it, get some of your songs up.
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Post by Rolo on Aug 26, 2016 8:55:47 GMT -5
Gem wrote Off At The Next Exit, Back After The Break and Eyeball Tickler, he's ok with me.
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Post by cloudburster on Aug 26, 2016 9:57:10 GMT -5
What would be considered a success?
Critical acclaim (yeah right!) or at least generally favourable reviews?
A mixed critical reaction but a Platinum album?
I think a Gold album would be a good achievement considering the current climate and also Liam's downward trajectory in the last 5 years. Obviously, critics shouldn't be important but we know it does sting Liam when people are slagging off his work left right and centre. I'd like to see it get at least a 65 on Metacritic and have respectable sales.
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Post by cloudburster on Aug 26, 2016 10:29:52 GMT -5
Its worth remembering that DGSS was received pretty well when it was released, and it was hardly a departure from what we expected from Liam-related music, so I think the music press are capable of going into this with an open mind
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Post by mouth on Aug 26, 2016 10:30:37 GMT -5
it might have some decent tunes, though. We have a section for it, get some of your songs up. i didn't say i'd have any. see what i did there?
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Post by mouth on Aug 26, 2016 10:38:07 GMT -5
tbh if he comes up with anything like what he did with beady eye, it will be shit. and boring. and lame. no one will give a fuck (besides some fanbois).
he needs to team up with some song writers that actually know how to write a decent tune and a melody. anyone who was involved with beady eye is not capable of doing so. maybe he should call lee mavers if he has some leftovers for him. or alex turner. or even richard hawley, which would go into a totally different direction. i'm fine with anything, as longs as it's not the same liam-tempo-lennon-ripoffwannabe-song.
now that i think about it, he should do what the monkees did. gather a bunch of songs from a bunch of songwriters.
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Post by andymorris on Aug 26, 2016 10:42:12 GMT -5
tbh if he comes up with anything like what he did with beady eye, it will be shit. and boring. and lame. no one will give a fuck (besides some fanbois). Acts over 43 (or even over 35) only release albums for their fanbase though, it's hard to gain new listeners. Liam had the strongest tune on BE, so there is hope.
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