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Post by Deleted on Aug 25, 2016 16:53:37 GMT -5
ok i've had a few days to think this over and i'll probably get slated for this but i'm going to say it: i'm not that excited about a solo album and tour, to be honest. i don't see how removing andy and gem from the equation is going to make the songs any better. and to see liam on stage performing beady eye and oasis tunes (let's face it, 'those' songs are going to find their way into the setlist) with a bunch of random dudes is going to be... strange. and a little depressing, really. although i will admit if bonehead is out there with him that will be kind of cool i guess. It depends how much of his set is going to be BE/Oasis, although I agree he will need some of those songs initially to make up a full show unless he is going to do 40-45 minute sets based on ten or eleven songs. As to Gem and Andy maybe it's because I am older but I still remember the bemused looks on people's faces at shows, especially in Europe as Oasis played with only Liam and Alan White recognisable in 2000, not helped admittedly by Noel deciding not to tour but even at the festivals opinion where I was staying was very divided as to the qualities Bonehead and Guigsy's replacements had. I have to admit with the rumours of one year only contracts during SOTSOG world tour for Gem and Andy I did think the band would be over after that, but they proved me wrong and carried on for another decade. There is no reason why Liam cannot like Noel move on from the BE/Oasis live line up with the right band and songs. As to Liam with random dudes isn't that in effect what Noel is doing as well, albeit with some of those people having been in bands/session circles longer than others?
FWIW I personally am less bothered about ex-Oasis band members guest spots than seeing how Liam's new songs sound, and how a live band performs them. If he has a reasonably successful record backed by a decent tour then there is no reason why he cannot continue to move on from BE/Oasis with his own music and continue performing odd songs from those eras should he chose to do so. but to be fair, liam was with gem and andy for twice as long as he was with bonehead and guigs. and i hear you on noel w/ a bunch of random guys, but i think the difference there is he's performing HIS songs (as in songs he wrote himself). i know that shouldn't make a difference but for me somehow it does. for whatever reason, i see noel as a draw all by himself. liam... he belongs in front of a band, and to me THAT band will always be gem, andy and chris. i don't know, maybe i'm just living in the past and it's just time for me to let it go. i just hope that you're right and that some of liam's songs will have the legs to stand on their own, and that he won't have to rely too much on big brother's tunes as a crutch (which eventually happened on stage with beady eye).
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Post by uǝɥʇɐǝɥ on Aug 25, 2016 16:58:30 GMT -5
I'm currently listening to Pete Yorns debut. If he is the collaborator then I believe everything will be all right. He will be in full control of it. He even looks like a good songwriter! I want you to check it out! It has strange Oasis references on almost every song! I WANT YOU TO KNOW!
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Post by The Milkman & The Riverman on Aug 25, 2016 17:05:56 GMT -5
I'm also hoping Liam going successfull now will move Noel out of his safe arse and get us some hits finally. A bit of a competition won't hurt them and it suits them probably better than drinking tea and watching football for 6 years as well. Good times ahead.
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Post by Gas Panic on Aug 25, 2016 17:10:41 GMT -5
I'm also hoping Liam going successfull now will move Noel out of his safe arse and get us some hits finally. I was thinking the same thing. Liam being back on the scene will definitely result in Noel raising his game for album #3. Something in the vein of don't brother me from noel could be brilliant.
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Post by Lennon2217 on Aug 25, 2016 17:24:02 GMT -5
I'm also hoping Liam going successfull now will move Noel out of his safe arse and get us some hits finally. I was thinking the same thing. Liam being back on the scene will definitely result in Noel raising his game for album #3. Something in the vein of don't brother me from noel could be brilliant. Wasn't Noel already raising his game by working with a new style producer in David Holmes and only writing fresh material in the studio. No outside material allowed. Both of those moves are out of Noel's comfort zone. I hope it results in solid work. We shall see.
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Post by standbymoi on Aug 25, 2016 17:56:59 GMT -5
ok i've had a few days to think this over and i'll probably get slated for this but i'm going to say it: i'm not that excited about a solo album and tour, to be honest. i don't see how removing andy and gem from the equation is going to make the songs any better. and to see liam on stage performing beady eye and oasis tunes (let's face it, 'those' songs are going to find their way into the setlist) with a bunch of random dudes is going to be... strange. and a little depressing, really. although i will admit if bonehead is out there with him that will be kind of cool i guess. I reckon he won't bother playing any Beady Eye songs. I can tell by the Q interview he wants to pretend it never happened and start fresh post oasis. He'll whack out a few of the big gun Oasis numbers though from DM and Morning Glory and give the people what they want.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 25, 2016 17:59:29 GMT -5
Every time I see someone saying Liam can't sing anymore, I think about this video.
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Post by tezza198 on Aug 25, 2016 18:47:54 GMT -5
Every time I see someone saying Liam can't sing anymore, I think about this video. Fucking amazing voice! The haters can go suck it
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Post by Flatulence Panic on Aug 26, 2016 10:43:16 GMT -5
THIS ONES FOR ROBBIE,
HE UNDERSTANDS THE LETTER 'Q'.
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Post by theyknowwhatimean on Aug 28, 2016 9:05:04 GMT -5
I sent a friend of mine the dog/cat quote by Liam, because I thought it was funny. He thought so, too, but added that he finds it hard to like Liam because he seemed like such an idiot. I replied and said that I like how Liam still is the same and doesn't change for anyone, does and says what he wants and so on. My friend then said how you can also see him as someone who hasn't moved on from the person he once was, hasn't grown up, hasn't "developed". Which is also true and it sums up a lot of conversations we had on here. Sometimes, I can't help but think that Liam is really not a very smart and intelligent man. Education-wise he was just not priviledged which is not his fault, but there are others who then started to educate themselves after school. It's weird that I sometimes find it hard to explain why I even like him as a person, because he just sometimes talks so much vulgar and inappropriate stuff that it embarresses me. I guess, if I didn't love him as a singer and if I wasn't such a big Oasis fan, I wouldn't like him. Yes, Liam is not the brightest. I have no doubt he could come across an abrasive and uncouth figure if you rub him up the wrong way. He is, after all, essentially a 43-year-old man-child. But personally, why I still like him is that he often shows himself to have more wit and insight than you would take him for. And although he remains extraordinarily proud, I think in many ways he's much more grounded than you would imagine someone who's lived the life he has to be. Not to mention of course, he's incredibly charismatic in a way that so few famous figures are these days. And I have a sneaking suspicion, that if you stripped away all that bravado - which is nothing more than a front he probably developed as a kid in Manchester, simply so he'd be heard, and has maintained as a way of coping with the extraordinary fame he attained as only a very young man - I think you'd find someone who at least means well, and whose heart is in the right place. Even if he too often says the wrong things. But more than anything with Liam: he's his own man. For better of for worse. He's absolutely what you see is what you get. Not like a pop star who has to maintain a certain pre-arranged 'image' that might make them look a more interesting/sellable character, or a representative of a more image-conscious genre of music - like rap, for instance, with it's Snoop Dogg-types, spitting lyrics about bangin' hoes and living in the hood, when they've not had to do either for years. The fact Liam has remained essentially the same person as he was as a boy of 19 is to his credit, I think - even if we might wish he was a bit more cultured and a bit less temperamental sometimes. If your friend can't see past the flaws of the person Liam is, there is really not much use to trying to explain them away to him. Liam's a marmite character; you either like him or you don't. His provocative behaviour has probably always made this so, but it's defintely become more apparent in this last decade, as Liam's star has long since been on the wane and as, culturally, we've moved in a very different direction to the society that gave birth to Liam " are you madferit?" Gallagher in the 1990s.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 22, 2016 18:43:22 GMT -5
Noel said he was disappointed Beady Eye split up. “Was he? I’m sure he was. I was more disappointed that Oasis split up. I wonder if he was. I’ve never heard him say he was disappointed about Oasis. No, he’s got what he wanted.”
What was that? To be the frontman? “Without a doubt, without a doubt. Jealous. Every fucking soundcheck he’d go stand in the middle and sing. The geezer’s got small man syndrome. He never had the nerve back in the day, so he joined my band and slowly wormed his way to the front, got his balls together. Same as Johnny Marr. Get yourselves over to the other side, play your guitars, play it with yer teeth, because there’s no place for you over here. You know when your kid puts make-up on and tries to look like a grown-up for a laugh? It’s like that. They’re playing at being frontmen. Get back over there. They look stupid. “He’s a great guitarist, our kid. He looks like Steve Jones when he’s over there on that side. Be happy over there. But out front he looks like Don McLean. If he thinks he’s Lee Mavers he needs to have another look at himself because Lee Mavers is dark and mysterious and you don’t know what’s going to happen with Lee Mavers. You know exactly what’s going to happen with Noel. His fucking sleeves, rolled up. It’s like Dermot O’Leary with a guitar. Fuck off. He needs to fuck back over to his side of the stage and strike a pose.”
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Post by ManofMisery on Sept 26, 2016 1:46:55 GMT -5
Liam announcement on Radio X at 8am uk time
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Post by bornidle on Sept 27, 2016 11:18:24 GMT -5
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Post by Jgrp on Sept 27, 2016 15:53:39 GMT -5
Finally read the Q interview. It puts him in a good light and represents some of the positives us fans see. Nice that this journo focuses on that side of things and didn't make the experience out to be something it wasn't. The quote about the taxi bloke I'm sure is exactly as it was and that really does sum up Liam.
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