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Post by matt on Feb 10, 2017 11:07:13 GMT -5
I never believed in the argument. The next manager could very well be unknown and still deliver success, ala Arsene Wenger. he almost has to be. none of the big boys would let themselves be shackled financially by arsenal's board... Klopp operates under constraints, which is why I thought he'd be ideal for Arsenal. As does Simeone, the more I think about it I think he would suit them well.
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Post by matt on Feb 10, 2017 11:09:41 GMT -5
Depends on who that manager will be. With all the best managers currently at all their rivals, the only other top class manager available is Simeone. But his style is completely different from the 'Arsenal way'. Ancelotti is great with world class squads in the Champions League but his league record isn't that great. I wouldn't be surprised if it was a left field choice like Lucien Favre at Nice. Doing well in France and did an excellent job in Germany with Mochengladbach. I never believed in the argument. The next manager could very well be unknown and still deliver success, ala Arsene Wenger. Given the higher profile of the club since Wenger arrived, and the higher profile of the Premier League, I'd be surprised if they went down that route. Although it would be fascinating - not to say it wouldn't work either.
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Post by Ross on Feb 10, 2017 12:54:21 GMT -5
What if AW's legacy of his second half of his Arsenal managerial career is giving the next manager the high prospects of real success? With the turn over of players in the modern game this seem unlikely, a new manager will attempt to build a largely new first team over their first couple of seasons.
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Post by matt on Feb 10, 2017 19:35:54 GMT -5
What if AW's legacy of his second half of his Arsenal managerial career is giving the next manager the high prospects of real success? With the turn over of players in the modern game this seem unlikely, a new manager will attempt to build a largely new first team over their first couple of seasons. Dunno if the Arsenal board would allow it to be honest. That said, Man Utd were fairly prudent before Fergie's retirement, since then the squads had a massive overhaul (but in fairness, it desperately needed it, as the David Moyes tenure showed). I don't think even at this stage the Arsenal board have a clue as to how to implement their next manager.
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Post by Beady’s Here Now on Feb 11, 2017 6:42:41 GMT -5
Watching Arsenal vs. Hull at once again this ungodly hour.
Even though our title challenge has faltered in familiar style, we must regain focus in hope of the 'covenant prize' of finishing in the top four, as we have done for the last two decades.
Come On You Gooners!! #COYG
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Post by Rolo on Feb 13, 2017 9:16:56 GMT -5
ArsenalFanTV is always a great watch.
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Post by Beady’s Here Now on Feb 13, 2017 9:46:07 GMT -5
ArsenalFanTV is always a great watch. I know you're taking the piss, but there are s few who speak relationally on it, like Moh, Chris, Lee, and Steve. DT is a fucking joke and a moron at best. No respect for him at all. Stick your banners up your crude twatting nonsensical mouth. Robbie runs a good channel, and it has grown to now have insider links, respect. Just hope it doesn't sell out in the end.
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Post by Rolo on Feb 13, 2017 10:38:08 GMT -5
ArsenalFanTV is always a great watch. I know you're taking the piss, but there are s few who speak relationally on it, like Moh, Chris, Lee, and Steve. DT is a fucking joke and a moron at best. No respect for him at all. Stick your banners up your crude twatting nonsensical mouth. Robbie runs a good channel, and it has grown to now have insider links, respect. Just hope it doesn't sell out in the end. That Chris is an idiot, he turns anything in to a positive. Robbie seems a decent bloke to be fair and does a good job of running it, must take a lot of work, fairplay to him.
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Post by Beady’s Here Now on Feb 15, 2017 10:46:01 GMT -5
Will be watching Arsenal vs. Bayern Munich in the First Leg of the Champions League last 16.
I'm not expecting a win, just hoping we can keep it close so we have a competitive chance in the return home second leg.
Come On You Gooners!! #COYG
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Post by godgimmesoul on Feb 15, 2017 16:41:04 GMT -5
Will be watching Arsenal vs. Bayern Munich in the First Leg of the Champions League last 16. I'm not expecting a win, just hoping we can keep it close so we have a competitive chance in the return home second leg.Come On You Gooners!! #COYG
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Post by Beady’s Here Now on Feb 15, 2017 17:18:30 GMT -5
Will be watching Arsenal vs. Bayern Munich in the First Leg of the Champions League last 16. I'm not expecting a win, just hoping we can keep it close so we have a competitive chance in the return home second leg.Come On You Gooners!! #COYG We were good up to half time. It was actually a really entertaining match in the first half. At 2-1 down, it would have been fine. Even 3-1 down is workable. But we collapsed as we always do. Fucking fuck.
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Post by Elie De Beaufour on Feb 15, 2017 23:39:11 GMT -5
We were good up to half time. It was actually a really entertaining match in the first half. At 2-1 down, it would have been fine. Even 3-1 down is workable. But we collapsed as we always do. Fucking fuck. Is there an injury scare at Arsenal?
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Post by globe on Feb 16, 2017 6:09:01 GMT -5
We were good up to half time. It was actually a really entertaining match in the first half. At 2-1 down, it would have been fine. Even 3-1 down is workable. But we collapsed as we always do. Fucking fuck. Is there an injury scare at Arsenal? Yes, it's called having a team full of fannies.
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Post by Frank Lee Vulgar on Feb 16, 2017 7:41:58 GMT -5
Did Özil even play yesterday? Honestly, for as long as I can remember the guy always vanishes into thin air once his team is in trouble. Compare that to Robben, Thiago or Vidal. None of them cost 50m either!
Not sure how the whole thing would have worked out with Koscielny on the field, though - Gabriel was clearly out of his depth yesterday.
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Post by RocketMan on Feb 16, 2017 8:50:19 GMT -5
Arsenal was dreadful. If you dont do the principles of defending you dont stand a chance against bayern. No pressing, so much space between the lines and jesus you even let Robben do his oldschool trick. Embarrassing.
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Post by sgtpeppr on Feb 16, 2017 9:03:40 GMT -5
arsenal didnt play well, but realistically, bayern could do that to almost any team...
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Post by Manualex on Feb 16, 2017 9:32:51 GMT -5
arsenal didnt play well, but realistically, bayern could do that to almost any team... like that german newspaper said, Arsenal finally played like Barcelona.
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Post by idleroses on Feb 16, 2017 12:43:34 GMT -5
Roy pretty much nails it
Online Editors
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Post by matt on Feb 16, 2017 14:33:27 GMT -5
Interesting article on Arsenal's operations. www.theguardian.com/football/2017/feb/16/arsene-wenger-arsenal-david-dein-successor-managerLooking likely Wenger will retire - sad to see him go, just like Fergie, its the end of an era for us folk who grew up with the Arsenal/Man Utd rivalry. It looks as if the Arsenal board haven't got a clue about anything, meaning Wenger has pretty much been literally running the club on his own. For all the criticisms of Wenger's old fashioned managerial ways (seriously, having responsibility for every minute detail is counterproductive in this era), once he leaves there will be a massive power and knowledge vacuum. 20 years ago when Arsenal hired Wenger, the club was run by a football geek in David Dein. Today, the board is made up of American businessmen and out of touch landed gentry who are merely in it for a quick profit - there's no succession plan and being the type of people they are, they haven't got a clue about football. That's only going to end in disaster.
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Post by Beady’s Here Now on Feb 16, 2017 22:44:09 GMT -5
I see Arsene walking at the end of the season. Something is not bein g communicated properly, because this squad is the best he's had in 13 years. If he managed mediocre football with Almunia, Eboue, Senderos, Djourou, Silvestre, Denilson, Santos, Gervinho, Lord Bendnter, etc then what the fuck is going on with getting the exact same mediocrity with Cech, Kosielny, Mustafi, Bellerin, Xhaka, Ozil, Alexis.......I don't get it? I hate to see this. I love AW. And I will continue to stick with him through yet another hardship which is becoming all too common. He was minutes away and then a penalty shoot out in the 2014 FA Cup Semi Final from walking. He then was almost retired at that 2014 Final against Hull. He's been riding his luck for seasons now. Sadly, I think it's about to run out. But you never know..... 2017 FA Cup Winners, and runners up and he'll be looking more rosy and grabbing that pen. I may have conceded right now, but the casket isn't being lowered just yet. matt
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Post by matt on Feb 17, 2017 13:55:11 GMT -5
I see Arsene walking at the end of the season. Something is not bein g communicated properly, because this squad is the best he's had in 13 years. If he managed mediocre football with Almunia, Eboue, Senderos, Djourou, Silvestre, Denilson, Santos, Gervinho, Lord Bendnter, etc then what the fuck is going on with getting the exact same mediocrity with Cech, Kosielny, Mustafi, Bellerin, Xhaka, Ozil, Alexis.......I don't get it? I hate to see this. I love AW. And I will continue to stick with him through yet another hardship which is becoming all too common. He was minutes away and then a penalty shoot out in the 2014 FA Cup Semi Final from walking. He then was almost retired at that 2014 Final against Hull. He's been riding his luck for seasons now. Sadly, I think it's about to run out. But you never know..... 2017 FA Cup Winners, and runners up and he'll be looking more rosy and grabbing that pen. I may have conceded right now, but the casket isn't being lowered just yet. mattDecent point, and I do think this is technically one of his strongest squads in recent years, but maybe he's just become consumed by the changing dynamics of the league - the quality of management has never been better in England's top division. Case in point, Mourinho - probably the dominant manager of the 21st century who has spent £200 million - is sitting 6th in the table. Maybe Wenger got away with the relative poor squads from around 10 years ago because the competition wasn't so high. That said, despite the squad being technically superior, the reality is probably that they are also mentally weak. Another drawback of modern football is that real leaders are few and far between and the young players sign massive contracts before proving themselves so are not as driven and determined as their predecessors. The likes of Vieira, Bergkamp, Henry, etc all had to work hard to where they got. Young players get everything on a plate these days, and the marketing and extreme commercialisation of individuals only feed their shallow egos. That's not just a problem with Arsenal, you can see it at Man Utd too. Imagine Roy Keane using Man Utd to promote himself via exclusive marketing deals and twitter emojis like Pogba is doing now. It would never have happened. With guys like Keane, it was all about what happened on the pitch - everything else was a distraction from the real battles on field. It's because of the celeb culture and shallow egotism of the likes of Pogba that means he will never ever reach the heights of someone like Keane. Modern players just have their priorities all wrong. That's the difference between past and present - with his league title winners, Wenger could rely upon fully grown adults to have the independence of thought to handle themselves on field, but the modern manager's job is now to molly coddle fragile players to give them confidence boosts.
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Post by Beady’s Here Now on Feb 18, 2017 18:58:36 GMT -5
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Post by Beady’s Here Now on Feb 20, 2017 10:43:24 GMT -5
Easy as fuck path to the FA Cup Semi Final: Sutton Utd today in the 5th Round, then Lincoln in the Quarter-Final. If we fuck this up, heads will roll. #COYG
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Post by daviesh on Feb 20, 2017 12:03:43 GMT -5
Such a mad rush for tickets for tonights game, crazy. Been offered a home seat for £125 or a seat in the away end for £175! Madness considering the FV is £30.
There will be AFC all around the stadium I suspect, thanks to all the black market deals going on.
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Post by Beady’s Here Now on Feb 20, 2017 16:42:16 GMT -5
Arsenal progress to the Quarter-Finals of the FA Cup where they will meet non-league Lincoln. A place in the Semi-Final awaits, lads. Well in.
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