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Post by Beady’s Here Now on Jul 24, 2016 20:47:34 GMT -5
Does the FA ever learn?
McClaren. Hodgson. And now ALLARDYCE.
OH DEAR.
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Post by theyknowwhatimean on Jul 25, 2016 4:01:04 GMT -5
Shut it, yank! Go outside and play with your semi-auto, because you're talking utter cack again. Allardyce is an outstanding man-manager; a motivator and a deceptively keen tactician, with an incredible ability to keep egos and attitude problems in check, to get the best performances from this players possible -- please recall the BOLTON WANDERERS team he crafted in the mid-00s, full of ex-internationals then in their 30s, that he eventually took to 6TH IN THE PREMIER LEAGUE - you know, Bolton Wanderers, that little club from that grey old industrial town in the north? that same Bolton Wanderers who now face the next football season in LEAGUE 1? It's very sad to see that Allardyce still hasn't got the credit he deserves, from the press and wider public. Whether he'll be able to do anything in the England job - whether anybody will be able to do anything in that job, with that shower of shite we took to France last month - I don't know; but one thing's for sure - it'll be entertaining. More so than the England national team has been in a VERY long time. He's a wonderful character and exactly the type of manager we need, after the wet blanket types we've had since Sven.
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Post by Ross on Jul 29, 2016 8:52:35 GMT -5
Does the FA ever learn? McClaren. Hodgson. And now ALLARDYCE. OH DEAR. Out of the managers that would have wanted the job who would you have gone for?
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Post by matt on Aug 15, 2016 10:23:58 GMT -5
I was never a fan of him but I've taken to respect him lately. To be fair, our very own Boltonian theyknowwhatimean made a great case for him when I slated him some months back. I hold my hands up and admit I was wrong - I looked up more about his Bolton record and it is very impressive. His transfer business isn't all anti-football - he used high tech statistical programs back in the early 2000s that was very forward thinking for its time. I now think the label of him being a football neanderthal is unfair considering the immense background work he did at Bolton. And, looking at West Ham, their relative success last season wouldn't have been possible if Allardyce hadn't laid the foundations for Bilic. It's easy to forget for such a big club that they were relegated and Allardyce built the club up from that. Of the candidates available for the job, England fans should just be thankful it didn't go to Steve Bruce.
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Post by thomaslivesforever on Aug 16, 2016 7:44:26 GMT -5
Big Sam is a decent manager. I don't know how anyone can argue otherwise. The current England team don't lack talent they lack steel, the game against Iceland was the same old story and I believe that Sam can change their mentality which is England's biggest obstacle.
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Post by idleroses on Aug 16, 2016 9:35:47 GMT -5
Instilling a belief in a team works wonders, just look at the job Martin O Neil and Roy Keane have done with Ireland. We are mostly made up of journeymen but we scrap and mix it up with teams who are well above our weight. England have a pool of talent that goes much much deeper than ours and if Big Sam can instill a belief into them than half the job is done for the England team.
That being said.......... I do hope they get a spanking at the next WC.
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Post by matt on Aug 16, 2016 10:33:14 GMT -5
Instilling a belief in a team works wonders, just look at the job Martin O Neil and Roy Keane have done with Ireland. We are mostly made up of journeymen but we scrap and mix it up with teams who are well above our weight. England have a pool of talent that goes much much deeper than ours and if Big Sam can instill a belief into them than half the job is done for the England team. That being said.......... I do hope they get a spanking at the next WC. Oh yes, definitely!
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Post by thomaslivesforever on Aug 17, 2016 4:33:54 GMT -5
Wonder if we'll see any of you at the next tournament...
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Post by Deleted on Aug 17, 2016 4:42:26 GMT -5
Big Sam is absolutely the right man for the job. I can guarantee there'll be no dodgy team selections or players not trying under him.
His style of football might be ugly but when it comes to major national tournaments, nobody cares about how well you play. It's all about the results.
And to think less than six years ago our idiotic owners (Blackburn Rovers) sacked him when we were 13th in the Premier League. Look at us now, bottom of the Championship with a threadbare squad and bloody Owen Coyle as manager. You can't make it up.
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Post by Beady’s Here Now on Aug 17, 2016 9:22:22 GMT -5
Big Sam is absolutely the right man for the job. I can guarantee there'll be no dodgy team selections or players not trying under him. His style of football might be ugly but when it comes to major national tournaments, nobody cares about how well you play. It's all about the results. And to think less than six years ago our idiotic owners (Blackburn Rovers) sacked him when we were 13th in the Premier League. Look at us now, bottom of the Championship with a threadbare squad and bloody Owen Coyle as manager. You can't make it up. People said the same about Fabio Capello. I YEARN for Sven Goran Ericksson
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Post by matt on Aug 17, 2016 17:50:34 GMT -5
Big Sam is absolutely the right man for the job. I can guarantee there'll be no dodgy team selections or players not trying under him. His style of football might be ugly but when it comes to major national tournaments, nobody cares about how well you play. It's all about the results. And to think less than six years ago our idiotic owners (Blackburn Rovers) sacked him when we were 13th in the Premier League. Look at us now, bottom of the Championship with a threadbare squad and bloody Owen Coyle as manager. You can't make it up. People said the same about Fabio Capello. I YEARN for Sven Goran Ericksson It doesn't matter who is England manager, every one will inevitably fail. Says it all when even a top class manager like Capello with everything on his CV failed. Though it's not necessarily the managers fault but the poor coaching standards and lack of grassroots investment from the FA that are to blame. Until that changes, England fans can forget about winning tournaments. Likewise for us Scots where the problems are similar.
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Post by sgtpeppr on Aug 19, 2016 3:27:41 GMT -5
People said the same about Fabio Capello. I YEARN for Sven Goran Ericksson It doesn't matter who is England manager, every one will inevitably fail. Says it all when even a top class manager like Capello with everything on his CV failed. Though it's not necessarily the managers fault but the poor coaching standards and lack of grassroots investment from the FA that are to blame.Until that changes, England fans can forget about winning tournaments. Likewise for us Scots where the problems are similar. this. 100% sam will fail, like the rest...just even uglier and more boring than usual. but its also a sign. when any team signs a manager like big sam, it tells me theyre not trying to achieve, theyre trying to survive...
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Post by globe on Aug 19, 2016 7:20:22 GMT -5
People said the same about Fabio Capello. I YEARN for Sven Goran Ericksson It doesn't matter who is England manager, every one will inevitably fail. Says it all when even a top class manager like Capello with everything on his CV failed. Though it's not necessarily the managers fault but the poor coaching standards and lack of grassroots investment from the FA that are to blame. Until that changes, England fans can forget about winning tournaments. Likewise for us Scots where the problems are similar. The English media really don't help their national team either - build them up to be the best thing since sliced bread, keep going on about inventing the game, 66 etc, then absolutely hammer them when they are knocked out a tournament; it just seems like a poisoned chalice.
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Post by theyknowwhatimean on Aug 19, 2016 8:41:37 GMT -5
It doesn't matter who is England manager, every one will inevitably fail. Says it all when even a top class manager like Capello with everything on his CV failed. Though it's not necessarily the managers fault but the poor coaching standards and lack of grassroots investment from the FA that are to blame.Until that changes, England fans can forget about winning tournaments. Likewise for us Scots where the problems are similar. this. 100% sam will fail, like the rest...just even uglier and more boring than usual. but its also a sign. when any team signs a manager like big sam, it tells me theyre not trying to achieve, theyre trying to survive... There's more to football than just winning trophies, you know. I'm not gonna go into it again, because I really haven't the patience for it anymore, but what Allardyce achieved in 8 years at Bolton Wanderers Football Club was absolutely phenomenal. Colossal, in fact. Us Boltonians were all very upset when he left, and some didn't take it at all well - so there was a bit of animosity there, between us and him, for a while - but on a whole, the man is pretty much a God in this town.
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Post by matt on Aug 19, 2016 11:09:10 GMT -5
It doesn't matter who is England manager, every one will inevitably fail. Says it all when even a top class manager like Capello with everything on his CV failed. Though it's not necessarily the managers fault but the poor coaching standards and lack of grassroots investment from the FA that are to blame. Until that changes, England fans can forget about winning tournaments. Likewise for us Scots where the problems are similar. The English media really don't help their national team either - build them up to be the best thing since sliced bread, keep going on about inventing the game, 66 etc, then absolutely hammer them when they are knocked out a tournament; it just seems like a poisoned chalice. Yeah true - the English media is thick as two short planks when it comes to football. I remember watching Alan Shearer with a face like a smacked arse after Iceland beat England, moaning about not many English players being given a chance. A few weeks later, he's tossing himself off to Man Utd's new multimillion pound signings from abroad.
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Post by sgtpeppr on Aug 19, 2016 11:17:43 GMT -5
this. 100% sam will fail, like the rest...just even uglier and more boring than usual. but its also a sign. when any team signs a manager like big sam, it tells me theyre not trying to achieve, theyre trying to survive... There's more to football than just winning trophies, you know. I'm not gonna go into it again, because I really haven't the patience for it anymore, but what Allardyce achieved in 8 years at Bolton Wanderers Football Club was absolutely phenomenal. Colossal, in fact. Us Boltonians were all very upset when he left, and some didn't take it at all well - so there was a bit of animosity there, between us and him, for a while - but on a whole, the man is pretty much a God in this town. yeah, thats fair enough. and not taking anything away from allardyce. he's very good at what he does. but his football is designed for teams that are just trying to maintain. like you said, there's achievement in that, but if you want to try and reach the next level, hes not your man. im aware achievement is relative, but englands idea of it is trophies, not qualification. it was more a comment on england's mentality than it was a jibe at big sam...
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Post by idleroses on Sept 27, 2016 13:45:22 GMT -5
LOL
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Post by matt on Sept 27, 2016 14:01:37 GMT -5
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Post by thomaslivesforever on Sept 27, 2016 15:57:24 GMT -5
Well, what fool he made of some of us. An arrogant, greedy. foolish wanker. As much of a failure that Hodgson was he was a throughly decent man unlike this fuck.
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Post by SheSaidHerNameWasDot on Sept 27, 2016 15:58:59 GMT -5
Only English international manager ever to have a 100% win record. 1 game, 1 win.
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Post by globe on Sept 27, 2016 16:19:33 GMT -5
LOLalrdice
England the The Rangers of international football.
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Post by Beady’s Here Now on Sept 27, 2016 16:40:46 GMT -5
Hate to say I told you so. England are going through managers at the rate of Chelsea. What an absolute joke.
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Post by thomaslivesforever on Sept 27, 2016 19:02:50 GMT -5
Hate to say I told you so. England are going through managers at the rate of Chelsea. What an absolute joke. Yeah you knew he would be the victim of a newspaper sting. You weren't referring to what you thought of his managing ability. Got this weeks lottery numbers?
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Post by matt on Sept 27, 2016 20:11:08 GMT -5
LOLalrdice England the The Rangers of international football. Can't stop laughing! Bet the other English candidates for the job are bent.
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Post by Beady’s Here Now on Sept 27, 2016 22:44:14 GMT -5
I'm going to be sick if Alan Pardew is next in line. Diabolical situation.
Arsene Wenger, anyone? The path is now clear....
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