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Post by welshylad on Aug 15, 2016 2:45:36 GMT -5
I have all the re-releases now apart from SOTSOG.. I have the original 2000 press. Do you advise getting the re-release? Will I notice a difference? Thanks The resissue is a 180 gram vinyl, the original press was not. And what difference does that make? I have no idea
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Post by Deleted on Aug 15, 2016 7:40:17 GMT -5
The resissue is a 180 gram vinyl, the original press was not. And what difference does that make? I have no idea from my own personal experience, i can not tell much of a difference--- if any--- in audio quality between one of these 180 gram vinyls and a standard 33 rpm record pressed from say, the 1980's. but they are more durable, much more heavier and more than likely will have only two or three songs (max) per side, meaning you'll be getting up off your sofa or chair quite often to do 'the flip'. i'm sure a true audiophile like jim, deadman or davidjay could expound on the matter further.
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Post by shinpad on Aug 15, 2016 14:57:35 GMT -5
And what difference does that make? I have no idea from my own personal experience, i can not tell much of a difference--- if any--- in audio quality between one of these 180 gram vinyls and a standard 33 rpm record pressed from say, the 1980's. but they are more durable, much more heavier and more than likely will have only two or three songs (max) per side, meaning you'll be getting up off your sofa or chair quite often to do 'the flip'. i'm sure a true audiophile like jim, deadman or davidjay could expound on the matter further. From what I understand. weight of the vinyl has nothing to do with how many songs per side, that's a decision of the band/cutting engineer. Less songs per side tends to sound better as the closer you get to the centre you can have inner groove distortion. I think the main advantage of heavier vinyl is less likelihood of warping.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 15, 2016 15:35:22 GMT -5
from my own personal experience, i can not tell much of a difference--- if any--- in audio quality between one of these 180 gram vinyls and a standard 33 rpm record pressed from say, the 1980's. but they are more durable, much more heavier and more than likely will have only two or three songs (max) per side, meaning you'll be getting up off your sofa or chair quite often to do 'the flip'. i'm sure a true audiophile like jim, deadman or davidjay could expound on the matter further. From what I understand. weight of the vinyl has nothing to do with how many songs per side, that's a decision of the band/cutting engineer. Less songs per side tends to sound better as the closer you get to the centre you can have inner groove distortion. I think the main advantage of heavier vinyl is less likelihood of warping. good post. but i have been collecting records for most of my life and if you store your records properly (standing upright, NEVER flat, and out of extreme heat) they will never ever warp. i own hundreds of lp's from the 60's to the 80's that are still perfect. i do hear you about the distortion as you get closer to the center. i thought it was only my imagination. although i do use a rather 'cheap' ... or i guess a better term would be 'cheaper' denon turntable. not high end by any means but it has done the job for me for many years and i am quite happy with it. i assume... that if you spend enough $$ on a high-end turntable with a decent cartridge you won't hear any distortion at all, regardless of how close you get to the center? can someone in the know comment on this.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 15, 2016 15:37:46 GMT -5
speaking of 'high-end', if you happen to have a bank account the size of noel gallagher this is as high end as you can get: elpj.com/
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Post by Lennon2217 on Aug 15, 2016 18:32:52 GMT -5
I ordered "The Masterplan" Saturday night off Amazon. With Amazon Prime it was sitting at my door when I returned from work on Monday. Awesome! Looks so beautiful in vinyl. I miss Brian Cannon's work with Oasis and Verve. Timeless.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 15, 2016 18:55:04 GMT -5
I ordered "The Masterplan" Saturday night off Amazon. With Amazon Prime it was sitting at my door when I returned from work on Monday. Awesome! Looks so beautiful in vinyl. I miss Brian Cannon's work with Oasis and Verve. Timeless. i am hopefully scooping up the masterplan, giants, hc and dbtt from my guy at a local record show at the end of october. i can't wait!
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Post by davidjay on Aug 16, 2016 5:18:16 GMT -5
And what difference does that make? I have no idea from my own personal experience, i can not tell much of a difference--- if any--- in audio quality between one of these 180 gram vinyls and a standard 33 rpm record pressed from say, the 1980's. but they are more durable, much more heavier and more than likely will have only two or three songs (max) per side, meaning you'll be getting up off your sofa or chair quite often to do 'the flip'. i'm sure a true audiophile like jim, deadman or davidjay could expound on the matter further. Hi, work has been a bit hectic recently, so I've not had time to post as often. Just seen your post. I thought you might find this article on the Sound on Sound website useful. Someone wrote to the magazine asking why inner groove distortion occurs, and why (given this kind of issue) he still prefers the sound of vinyl to digital recordings. The magazine's technical editor Hugh Robjohns replied in the July 2014 issue, in a short article called " Why is Vinyl Not the Best Medium?". Hope this helps. My own take on this is that I like both formats, but with a preference for a well-mastered CD (ideally with some dynamics left in). That said, quite often the vinyl version of a modern release will have its own bespoke mastering, which may be less heavily compressed than the equivalent CD or digital download.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 16, 2016 6:19:46 GMT -5
from my own personal experience, i can not tell much of a difference--- if any--- in audio quality between one of these 180 gram vinyls and a standard 33 rpm record pressed from say, the 1980's. but they are more durable, much more heavier and more than likely will have only two or three songs (max) per side, meaning you'll be getting up off your sofa or chair quite often to do 'the flip'. i'm sure a true audiophile like jim, deadman or davidjay could expound on the matter further. Hi, work has been a bit hectic recently, so I've not had time to post as often. Just seen your post. I thought you might find this article on the Sound on Sound website useful. Someone wrote to the magazine asking why inner groove distortion occurs, and why (given this kind of issue) he still prefers the sound of vinyl to digital recordings. The magazine's technical editor Hugh Robjohns replied in the July 2014 issue, in a short article called " Why is Vinyl Not the Best Medium?". Hope this helps. My own take on this is that I like both formats, but with a preference for a well-mastered CD (ideally with some dynamics left in). That said, quite often the vinyl version of a modern release will have its own bespoke mastering, which may be less heavily compressed than the equivalent CD or digital download. fascinating read, david. i have been collecting and listening to records for years and for some strange reason i never noticed the 'center distortion' until recently. i was beginning to think there was something wrong with my turntable! now i can breathe easy. thanks very much for sharing !! V
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Post by Deleted on Sept 20, 2016 4:56:53 GMT -5
I've listened a lot to the reissue of Standing on the Shoulder of Giants on the turntable I got when my grandfater died. It sounds so much better than the cd version! This is the first time I really can hear the difference between the cd version and vinyl. Especially Where Did It All Go Wrong? sounds a lot better, I can hear the semi-acoustic version somewhere in it.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 20, 2016 5:10:28 GMT -5
I've listened a lot to the reissue of Standing on the Shoulder of Giants on the turntable I got when my grandfater died. It sounds so much better than the cd version! This is the first time I really can hear the difference between the cd version and vinyl. Especially Where Did It All Go Wrong? sounds a lot better, I can hear the semi-acoustic version somewhere in it. I'm thinking of buying Masterplan from Amazon but I'm not sure if I have enough money because I'm also buying Supersonic doc, BHN vinyl and Stone roses vinyl
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Post by mossy on Sept 25, 2016 1:48:16 GMT -5
I've listened a lot to the reissue of Standing on the Shoulder of Giants on the turntable I got when my grandfater died. It sounds so much better than the cd version! This is the first time I really can hear the difference between the cd version and vinyl. Especially Where Did It All Go Wrong? sounds a lot better, I can hear the semi-acoustic version somewhere in it. I'm thinking of buying Masterplan from Amazon but I'm not sure if I have enough money because I'm also buying Supersonic doc, BHN vinyl and Stone roses vinyl You have two kidneys you know, surely you don't need both...
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Post by carl80 on Jul 26, 2017 15:59:49 GMT -5
I ordered "The Masterplan" Saturday night off Amazon. With Amazon Prime it was sitting at my door when I returned from work on Monday. Awesome! Looks so beautiful in vinyl. I miss Brian Cannon's work with Oasis and Verve. Timeless. Was wondering are the inserts and logo on the spin faithful to the original for this pressing ? I'm thinking of picking it up. Not much advertising was put out by the label for these last year, nothing on the oasis site if I remember right, Bit strange.
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Post by AppleScruff on Aug 5, 2017 1:46:27 GMT -5
I ordered "The Masterplan" Saturday night off Amazon. With Amazon Prime it was sitting at my door when I returned from work on Monday. Awesome! Looks so beautiful in vinyl. I miss Brian Cannon's work with Oasis and Verve. Timeless. Was wondering are the inserts and logo on the spin faithful to the original for this pressing ? I'm thinking of picking it up. Not much advertising was put out by the label for these last year, nothing on the oasis site if I remember right, Bit strange. Yes they are. Inserts have the track by track breakdown detailing which original release the song came from etc. Considering the price the first pressing or even the fan club box set was going for, this reissue was a god send for me. I mainly have first pressings aside from this and DM. Still need to get Familiar to Millions but that's going to be £200+ so bit more difficult to justify!
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