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Post by MONO on Jun 30, 2019 10:39:12 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on Jun 30, 2019 10:45:44 GMT -5
If Love is the Law might be the best Gallagher tune since the 90s. Such a fun tune. really? its a nice tune but thats quite a statement.
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Post by Let It Bleed on Jul 1, 2019 15:53:38 GMT -5
If Love is the Law might be the best Gallagher tune since the 90s. Such a fun tune. really? its a nice tune but thats quite a statement. It's the best song in the last 50 years.... God bless.
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Post by Derrick on Jul 2, 2019 12:45:39 GMT -5
really? its a nice tune but thats quite a statement. It's the best song in the last 50 years.... God bless. Where have you been the last 50 years?
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Post by Deleted on Jul 2, 2019 13:58:24 GMT -5
'Sail On' is ace.
Fine little tune this one.
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Post by modxxii on Jul 8, 2019 4:01:06 GMT -5
See you tonight Noel! ^^
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Post by mkoasis on Jul 8, 2019 16:36:08 GMT -5
The BSD EP has just been released in Canada on Friday. I picked my copy up for $19.99 at Sunrise, if any fellow Canadians are still looking for it. It’s the “limited edition” coloured vinyl version.
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Post by modxxii on Jul 13, 2019 9:30:41 GMT -5
I've been listening to WBTM? on vinyl... what a fantastic album. It seems better on vinyl too, especially on HM and Be Cafeful...
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Post by Beady’s Here Now on Jul 22, 2019 10:08:12 GMT -5
Let It Bleed took a trip on the mothership and then never came...... HOME
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Post by mystoryisgory on Jul 25, 2019 11:32:13 GMT -5
Revisited WBTM for the first time in ages. Here are my thoughts:
- Holy Mountain is still the absolute fucking best thing Noel's ever done since 1997. When it first came out a lot of people were saying (probably specifically to me haha) that it would be a Beat Goes On scenario in which my opinion is only based on hype. Nope. This song only gets better with every listen. And I can confidently say I've listened to it over 500 times! Not an exaggeration btw. So fucking euphoric and relentless, it's like Noel captured all of world happiness in a syringe and injected it into this song.
- The first side of WBTM is still pretty damn well near perfect. Which is a relief. I was most afraid that this wouldn't hold up in the aftermath, especially Beautiful World, which of all the songs seemed like its luster might fade the quickest. Luckily that hasn't been the case, Fort Knox, Keep On Reaching, and especially She Taught Me How to Fly are still bubbling with as much awesomeness as when I first heard them, and Beautiful World is still as graceful as ever, even if now I hear it as more in-your-face instead of having the restraint that I originally described it as.
- Black and White Sunshine and If Love Is the Law are still the two weakest songs on here for me, but hearing both for the first time in a long time made me realize just how good they actually are, even if they are inferior to everything on side 1. BAWS is just a brilliant pop song bursting with great melody, and just enough embellishments to make it even fucking better. In other words, the complete fullfillment of a song's potential.
- And it's clear Noel put a lot of work into the arrangement of If Love Is the Law. It feels so delicately put together, like if you removed one little element the whole song would fall apart. That's not a criticism btw, that's praise for how immaculately constructed it is and how Noel really stripped the arrangement to only the essential elements. And how in the hands of someone else, this song would've been a disaster, but Noel (and David Holmes too!) were careful and talented enough to avoid that pitfall.
- The sequencing of side 2 to me still sounds a little...off. Placing Interlude between the two happy songs of side 2 breaks up the flow in a bad way. ILITW doesn't have a chance to carry the energy of the only other upbeat song on the side. Plus, Interlude works so much better as the side opener, and its reprise is sequenced way too close to it.
- Plus, the transition between ILITL and The Man Who Built the Moon is a little...jarring? Too much whiplash is required to go from a happiness-with-undertones-of-melancholy song to the most menacing motherfucker since DYKWIM. Kinda wish Noel had stuck in some more moodier and darker songs in the vein of Be Careful What You Wish For. Wasn't there that one song inspired by Heroin that Noel recorded with Holmes after Lou Reed died? That could've made for a far more consistent tone for what I believe the vinyl edition calls the "Dark Side".
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Post by matt on Jul 25, 2019 15:44:24 GMT -5
Revisited WBTM for the first time in ages. Here are my thoughts: - Holy Mountain is still the absolute fucking best thing Noel's ever done since 1997. When it first came out a lot of people were saying (probably specifically to me haha) that it would be a Beat Goes On scenario in which my opinion is only based on hype. Nope. This song only gets better with every listen. And I can confidently say I've listened to it over 500 times! Not an exaggeration btw. So fucking euphoric and relentless, it's like Noel captured all of world happiness in a syringe and injected it into this song.
- The first side of WBTM is still pretty damn well near perfect. Which is a relief. I was most afraid that this wouldn't hold up in the aftermath, especially Beautiful World, which of all the songs seemed like its luster might fade the quickest. Luckily that hasn't been the case, Fort Knox, Keep On Reaching, and especially She Taught Me How to Fly are still bubbling with as much awesomeness as when I first heard them, and Beautiful World is still as graceful as ever, even if now I hear it as more in-your-face instead of having the restraint that I originally described it as.
- Black and White Sunshine and If Love Is the Law are still the two weakest songs on here for me, but hearing both for the first time in a long time made me realize just how good they actually are, even if they are inferior to everything on side 1. BAWS is just a brilliant pop song bursting with great melody, and just enough embellishments to make it even fucking better. In other words, the complete fullfillment of a song's potential.
- And it's clear Noel put a lot of work into the arrangement of If Love Is the Law. It feels so delicately put together, like if you removed one little element the whole song would fall apart. That's not a criticism btw, that's praise for how immaculately constructed it is and how Noel really stripped the arrangement to only the essential elements. And how in the hands of someone else, this song would've been a disaster, but Noel (and David Holmes too!) were careful and talented enough to avoid that pitfall.
- The sequencing of side 2 to me still sounds a little...off. Placing Interlude between the two happy songs of side 2 breaks up the flow in a bad way. ILITW doesn't have a chance to carry the energy of the only other upbeat song on the side. Plus, Interlude works so much better as the side opener, and its reprise is sequenced way too close to it.
- Plus, the transition between ILITL and The Man Who Built the Moon is a little...jarring? Too much whiplash is required to go from a happiness-with-undertones-of-melancholy song to the most menacing motherfucker since DYKWIM. Kinda wish Noel had stuck in some more moodier and darker songs in the vein of Be Careful What You Wish For. Wasn't there that one song inspired by Heroin that Noel recorded with Holmes after Lou Reed died? That could've made for a far more consistent tone for what I believe the vinyl edition calls the "Dark Side".
What people don’t understand is that Holy Mountain works purely down to its manic cheesiness. It’s marmite and you either love it or hate it - bland shite like Beat Goes On will inevitably sink without a trace because it is so inoffensive and a completely nothing tune that sums up that album. Holy Mountain at least takes some risks - it’s not afraid to be so ridiculous and fun. I think the schizophrenic placement of Love Is The Law with ‘...Who Built The Moon’ is great - probably because I love both songs but it sums up the variety of that album most of all. And I see Dead In The Water as the epilogue, the comedown after a manic party. It’s the strongest end to an album I’ve bought in recent years. It still holds up so well after two years, it’s a fantastic and immensely fun album.
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Post by mystoryisgory on Jul 26, 2019 1:29:02 GMT -5
Revisited WBTM for the first time in ages. Here are my thoughts: - Holy Mountain is still the absolute fucking best thing Noel's ever done since 1997. When it first came out a lot of people were saying (probably specifically to me haha) that it would be a Beat Goes On scenario in which my opinion is only based on hype. Nope. This song only gets better with every listen. And I can confidently say I've listened to it over 500 times! Not an exaggeration btw. So fucking euphoric and relentless, it's like Noel captured all of world happiness in a syringe and injected it into this song.
- The first side of WBTM is still pretty damn well near perfect. Which is a relief. I was most afraid that this wouldn't hold up in the aftermath, especially Beautiful World, which of all the songs seemed like its luster might fade the quickest. Luckily that hasn't been the case, Fort Knox, Keep On Reaching, and especially She Taught Me How to Fly are still bubbling with as much awesomeness as when I first heard them, and Beautiful World is still as graceful as ever, even if now I hear it as more in-your-face instead of having the restraint that I originally described it as.
- Black and White Sunshine and If Love Is the Law are still the two weakest songs on here for me, but hearing both for the first time in a long time made me realize just how good they actually are, even if they are inferior to everything on side 1. BAWS is just a brilliant pop song bursting with great melody, and just enough embellishments to make it even fucking better. In other words, the complete fullfillment of a song's potential.
- And it's clear Noel put a lot of work into the arrangement of If Love Is the Law. It feels so delicately put together, like if you removed one little element the whole song would fall apart. That's not a criticism btw, that's praise for how immaculately constructed it is and how Noel really stripped the arrangement to only the essential elements. And how in the hands of someone else, this song would've been a disaster, but Noel (and David Holmes too!) were careful and talented enough to avoid that pitfall.
- The sequencing of side 2 to me still sounds a little...off. Placing Interlude between the two happy songs of side 2 breaks up the flow in a bad way. ILITW doesn't have a chance to carry the energy of the only other upbeat song on the side. Plus, Interlude works so much better as the side opener, and its reprise is sequenced way too close to it.
- Plus, the transition between ILITL and The Man Who Built the Moon is a little...jarring? Too much whiplash is required to go from a happiness-with-undertones-of-melancholy song to the most menacing motherfucker since DYKWIM. Kinda wish Noel had stuck in some more moodier and darker songs in the vein of Be Careful What You Wish For. Wasn't there that one song inspired by Heroin that Noel recorded with Holmes after Lou Reed died? That could've made for a far more consistent tone for what I believe the vinyl edition calls the "Dark Side".
What people don’t understand is that Holy Mountain works purely down to its manic cheesiness. It’s marmite and you either love it or hate it - bland shite like Beat Goes On will inevitably sink without a trace because it is so inoffensive and a completely nothing tune that sums up that album. Holy Mountain at least takes some risks - it’s not afraid to be so ridiculous and fun. I think the schizophrenic placement of Love Is The Law with ‘...Who Built The Moon’ is great - probably because I love both songs but it sums up the variety of that album most of all. And I see Dead In The Water as the epilogue, the comedown after a manic party. It’s the strongest end to an album I’ve bought in recent years. It still holds up so well after two years, it’s a fantastic and immensely fun album. Huh, Holy Mountain is definitely manic, but not sure if I'd call it cheesy. Cheesy to me always sounds forced, lame, and inauthentic. I don't think Holy Mountain could be more genuinely ecstatic if it tried. But you make a good point about the placement of ILITL and TMWBTM being for intentionally jarring effect. Never really thought about it that way! I guess I was just expecting something more cohesive given that WBTM in general seemed to be Noel's attempt at an album rather than just a collection of songs.
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Post by Let It Bleed on Jul 26, 2019 5:29:13 GMT -5
Let It Bleed took a trip on the mothership and then never came...... HOME I'm gonna have to write you another song.... God bless.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 27, 2019 18:51:38 GMT -5
I sometimes forget how good this tune is, but when i listen to it, i'm reminded right away of how good it is.
"We let love get lost in anger chasing yesterday". What a line.
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Post by Snail Mail on Jul 28, 2019 21:39:03 GMT -5
I've been listening to Noel's EP Black Star Dancing a lot since its release. It's interesting to see how much Noel has progressed as an artist over the last few years and continues to challenge himself musically. What I love the most about him is that he's incorporating various elements such as psychedelia, disco, jazz, pop and dance sound into his music. Although it's different from his previous work, it's still recognizably Noel by numbers. Songs like Alone on the Rope, The Right Stuff, She Taught Me How to Fly, and Rattling Rose, for instance make me think he still has a lot to offer musically. Nonetheless, I'm really looking forward to his next two EPs and album with so much excitement because his music is getting more interesting with each release and I don't know what to expect from him nowadays.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 30, 2019 11:43:41 GMT -5
The BSD EP has just been released in Canada on Friday. I picked my copy up for $19.99 at Sunrise, if any fellow Canadians are still looking for it. It’s the “limited edition” coloured vinyl version. I was just at Newbury Comics in Harvard Square Cambridge and they had two copies for $13 each. (Pink vinyl... is that the same one you have?) Had it in my hands for a minute, thought about it, and put it back. Couldn't pull the trigger on it. First time ever. Never thought I would see the day! Maybe one day if I see one in a bargain bin... Now, on the flip side, they had one copy of the Reflex RSD EP reduced to $6 (!!) Now THAT is a deal. Still excited for the Toronto show. Two weeks away and loads of tickets remaining. Wow. But maybe that's more on the Pumpkins than Noel? 🤔
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Post by Deleted on Jul 30, 2019 11:50:46 GMT -5
Revisited WBTM for the first time in ages. Here are my thoughts: - Holy Mountain is still the absolute fucking best thing Noel's ever done since 1997. When it first came out a lot of people were saying (probably specifically to me haha) that it would be a Beat Goes On scenario in which my opinion is only based on hype. Nope. This song only gets better with every listen. And I can confidently say I've listened to it over 500 times! Not an exaggeration btw. So fucking euphoric and relentless, it's like Noel captured all of world happiness in a syringe and injected it into this song.
- The first side of WBTM is still pretty damn well near perfect. Which is a relief. I was most afraid that this wouldn't hold up in the aftermath, especially Beautiful World, which of all the songs seemed like its luster might fade the quickest. Luckily that hasn't been the case, Fort Knox, Keep On Reaching, and especially She Taught Me How to Fly are still bubbling with as much awesomeness as when I first heard them, and Beautiful World is still as graceful as ever, even if now I hear it as more in-your-face instead of having the restraint that I originally described it as.
- Black and White Sunshine and If Love Is the Law are still the two weakest songs on here for me, but hearing both for the first time in a long time made me realize just how good they actually are, even if they are inferior to everything on side 1. BAWS is just a brilliant pop song bursting with great melody, and just enough embellishments to make it even fucking better. In other words, the complete fullfillment of a song's potential.
- And it's clear Noel put a lot of work into the arrangement of If Love Is the Law. It feels so delicately put together, like if you removed one little element the whole song would fall apart. That's not a criticism btw, that's praise for how immaculately constructed it is and how Noel really stripped the arrangement to only the essential elements. And how in the hands of someone else, this song would've been a disaster, but Noel (and David Holmes too!) were careful and talented enough to avoid that pitfall.
- The sequencing of side 2 to me still sounds a little...off. Placing Interlude between the two happy songs of side 2 breaks up the flow in a bad way. ILITW doesn't have a chance to carry the energy of the only other upbeat song on the side. Plus, Interlude works so much better as the side opener, and its reprise is sequenced way too close to it.
- Plus, the transition between ILITL and The Man Who Built the Moon is a little...jarring? Too much whiplash is required to go from a happiness-with-undertones-of-melancholy song to the most menacing motherfucker since DYKWIM. Kinda wish Noel had stuck in some more moodier and darker songs in the vein of Be Careful What You Wish For. Wasn't there that one song inspired by Heroin that Noel recorded with Holmes after Lou Reed died? That could've made for a far more consistent tone for what I believe the vinyl edition calls the "Dark Side".
I really enjoyed reading that, well done !! 👍👍 "...and how in the hands of someone else ..." How true. Thank FUCK "HE" had nothing to do whatsoever with the production of this record!
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Post by mkoasis on Jul 30, 2019 16:46:32 GMT -5
The BSD EP has just been released in Canada on Friday. I picked my copy up for $19.99 at Sunrise, if any fellow Canadians are still looking for it. It’s the “limited edition” coloured vinyl version. I was just at Newbury Comics in Harvard Square Cambridge and they had two copies for $13 each. (Pink vinyl... is that the same one you have?) Had it in my hands for a minute, thought about it, and put it back. Couldn't pull the trigger on it. First time ever. Never thought I would see the day! I had the exact same feeling when I saw a couple copies of the NGHFB Any Road book. I’ve never really passed up any oasis item I didnt already have. It’s a nice enough book but for $50, takes up a good bit of space, and I don’t know likely I would be to read it again anytime soon. So I passed it up. Felt weird though, like you said.
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Post by GlastoEls on Jul 30, 2019 17:15:54 GMT -5
I was just at Newbury Comics in Harvard Square Cambridge and they had two copies for $13 each. (Pink vinyl... is that the same one you have?) Had it in my hands for a minute, thought about it, and put it back. Couldn't pull the trigger on it. First time ever. Never thought I would see the day! I had the exact same feeling when I saw a couple copies of the NGHFB Any Road book. I’ve never really passed up any oasis item I didnt already have. It’s a nice enough book but for $50, takes up a good bit of space, and I don’t know likely I would be to read it again anytime soon. So I passed it up. Felt weird though, like you said. Yep, I first felt that with Time Flies. Just thought to myself - I’ve bought these songs twenty times over,..
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Post by modxxii on Aug 1, 2019 8:32:39 GMT -5
I'm obsessed by WBTM. I love every second on it.
Incredible how it has grown on me.
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Post by dampcottage on Aug 1, 2019 9:59:14 GMT -5
I'm obsessed by WBTM. I love every second on it. Incredible how it has grown on me. remember Noel saying the longer it's around, more people will realise how good it actually is? Seems he may have been right, somehow the more I hear it the more I love it
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Post by NicOasis on Aug 2, 2019 14:52:08 GMT -5
I'm obsessed by WBTM. I love every second on it. Incredible how it has grown on me. The opening half of the album is just pure bliss for me.
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Post by ournoel775 on Aug 2, 2019 23:01:06 GMT -5
Listened to Chasing Yesterday on my commute last two days. Sounds very old/stiff. Only good tracks were all on the backside:
Song Remains the Same You know we can’t go back Mighty I
Guess I like WBTM-EP era bangers a bit more. CY sounds like paint by numbers in comparison.
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Post by madferitusa2025 on Aug 3, 2019 22:35:10 GMT -5
This one seems to take on new life live.
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Post by leron on Aug 5, 2019 8:12:39 GMT -5
this sounds good
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