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Post by underneaththesky on Jan 11, 2020 18:45:05 GMT -5
Jack Martin, founder of the Oasis Webmasters for Internet Freedom, wondered
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Post by Lennon2217 on Jan 11, 2020 23:53:50 GMT -5
I was still in primary school mate. Believe you me, you weren’t the target audience I was seeking. You’re a post 2000 fan anyways.
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Post by modxxii on Jan 12, 2020 4:59:16 GMT -5
The Girl In The Dirty Shirt is underrated.
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Post by dampcottage on Jan 12, 2020 7:27:18 GMT -5
I was still in primary school mate. Believe you me, you weren’t the target audience I was seeking. You’re a post 2000 fan anyways. I remember being able to turn on MTV knowing that at some point within the hour an oasis video would be on, and the rest would be pretty decent as well, and in the summer of 97 they should have renamed it oasis TV, total domination, as far as embracing the internet, the management of oasis (and now Noel) still haven't got the first fuckin clue do they?
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Post by megyesitomate on Jan 12, 2020 15:23:01 GMT -5
The Girl In The Dirty Shirt is underrated. He could easily pull it off nowadays. It's not the band's most popular song, yes, but still, it's from one of their biggest albums and I think it would fit his current vocal range pretty well.
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Post by megyesitomate on Jan 13, 2020 13:15:54 GMT -5
Just picked up a huge Oasis bundle from the post office. Every CD single from SOTSG and HC + the SCYHO, the LBL/SIL and the THT DVD. Oasis stuff is incredibly hard to find in Hungary, let alone material from these albums. Also, cost 30£, including postage. I’m over the fucking moon!
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Post by Beady’s Here Now on Jan 13, 2020 19:38:33 GMT -5
Would have slotted nicely on to Be Here Now. I guess we got Noel’s view on things with The Fame lol
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Post by Beady’s Here Now on Jan 14, 2020 18:27:05 GMT -5
I often lose myself whilst listening to Oasis, so much so that I believe I’m the fifth Beatle.
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Post by Beady’s Here Now on Jan 14, 2020 20:38:00 GMT -5
I don’t know which one of you fuckers is responsible for this Bible personified. The second half, from 4mins on, is simply majestic - for a few minutes I felt all was fine.
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Post by haydenc on Jan 15, 2020 12:06:59 GMT -5
Listening to Be Here Now on my new TV. Really digging it now. P.S HC isn't the best Oasis album. You've been trolled. I'm gonna miss your "HC is a godlike album" type of posts P.S I'd always imagine you having the HC album as your guardian angel, in a frame above your bed
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Post by beentherenow on Jan 17, 2020 13:20:07 GMT -5
Didn’t want to start another thread so think this should go in here.
Honestly do people think Oasis stood a chance of delivering Be Here Now to peoples expectations? This isn’t an alternative track listing thread but more of a comment of the longevity of the mid 90’s zeitgeist which was Oasis. Were they destined to almost be the 3 year meteoric rise and fall or could they have gone on to join the all time greats?
People often say ‘if The Masterplan was Oasis’ third album it would have been so different’. However would it? Say the below was it (ignore the different years of release) would it have been the 15m selling success people expected?
Dyou Know What I Mean? Acquiesce My Big Mouth Listen Up Half The World Away Stand By Me Rockin Chair Fade Away Don’t Go Away (It’s Good) To Be Free The Masterplan
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Post by World71R on Jan 17, 2020 18:03:58 GMT -5
Didn’t want to start another thread so think this should go in here. Honestly do people think Oasis stood a chance of delivering Be Here Now to peoples expectations? This isn’t an alternative track listing thread but more of a comment of the longevity of the mid 90’s zeitgeist which was Oasis. Were they destined to almost be the 3 year meteoric rise and fall or could they have gone on to join the all time greats? People often say ‘if The Masterplan was Oasis’ third album it would have been so different’. However would it? Say the below was it (ignore the different years of release) would it have been the 15m selling success people expected? Dyou Know What I Mean? Acquiesce My Big Mouth Listen Up Half The World Away Stand By Me Rockin Chair Fade Away Don’t Go Away (It’s Good) To Be Free The Masterplan It depends on the single choices and production. A lot of people overlook the poor, but bold, decision to release DYKWIM as the first single and then the Wall of Sound on cocaine production they put into almost all of the songs, no matter what it was. With these songs here, if you release something like Acquiesce, Don't Go Away, or The Masterplan as the first single and then keep the production the same on most of these songs, then Stand By Me would be more of a glaring exception of excess than the overall rule and it would get a pass as being a good song that got too bloated, but the other songs would be regarded well. This doesn't have the same flow as BHN, though, which is the only problem. Really, I think whatever Liam & Noel and the boys were going to put out was going to fall short of MG but there was a potential for some success and to cement their place in rock. BHN didn't do that but an album like what you listed would've helped their case a lot more. Either that or going away for another year and doing a 1998 release with a Christmas 1997 single to build the hype a bit.
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Post by Marissa on Jan 17, 2020 18:47:45 GMT -5
y'all can say PYMWYMI is filler all you want but it deserves its place on SOTSOG purely for liam's joan jett-esque "OWWWWWW"s
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Post by Zingbot on Jan 18, 2020 14:07:02 GMT -5
This is so fucking amazing. Miles better than the original.
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Post by Zingbot on Jan 18, 2020 17:04:24 GMT -5
Didn’t want to start another thread so think this should go in here. Honestly do people think Oasis stood a chance of delivering Be Here Now to peoples expectations? This isn’t an alternative track listing thread but more of a comment of the longevity of the mid 90’s zeitgeist which was Oasis. Were they destined to almost be the 3 year meteoric rise and fall or could they have gone on to join the all time greats? People often say ‘if The Masterplan was Oasis’ third album it would have been so different’. However would it? Say the below was it (ignore the different years of release) would it have been the 15m selling success people expected? Dyou Know What I Mean? Acquiesce My Big Mouth Listen Up Half The World Away Stand By Me Rockin Chair Fade Away Don’t Go Away (It’s Good) To Be Free The Masterplan It depends on the single choices and production. A lot of people overlook the poor, but bold, decision to release DYKWIM as the first single and then the Wall of Sound on cocaine production they put into almost all of the songs, no matter what it was. With these songs here, if you release something like Acquiesce, Don't Go Away, or The Masterplan as the first single and then keep the production the same on most of these songs, then Stand By Me would be more of a glaring exception of excess than the overall rule and it would get a pass as being a good song that got too bloated, but the other songs would be regarded well. This doesn't have the same flow as BHN, though, which is the only problem. Really, I think whatever Liam & Noel and the boys were going to put out was going to fall short of MG but there was a potential for some success and to cement their place in rock. BHN didn't do that but an album like what you listed would've helped their case a lot more. Either that or going away for another year and doing a 1998 release with a Christmas 1997 single to build the hype a bit. Be Here Now is biblical.
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Post by Lennon2217 on Jan 18, 2020 17:37:53 GMT -5
Didn’t want to start another thread so think this should go in here. Honestly do people think Oasis stood a chance of delivering Be Here Now to peoples expectations? This isn’t an alternative track listing thread but more of a comment of the longevity of the mid 90’s zeitgeist which was Oasis. Were they destined to almost be the 3 year meteoric rise and fall or could they have gone on to join the all time greats? People often say ‘if The Masterplan was Oasis’ third album it would have been so different’. However would it? Say the below was it (ignore the different years of release) would it have been the 15m selling success people expected? Dyou Know What I Mean? Acquiesce My Big Mouth Listen Up Half The World Away Stand By Me Rockin Chair Fade Away Don’t Go Away (It’s Good) To Be Free The Masterplan It depends on the single choices and production. A lot of people overlook the poor, but bold, decision to release DYKWIM as the first single and then the Wall of Sound on cocaine production they put into almost all of the songs, no matter what it was. With these songs here, if you release something like Acquiesce, Don't Go Away, or The Masterplan as the first single and then keep the production the same on most of these songs, then Stand By Me would be more of a glaring exception of excess than the overall rule and it would get a pass as being a good song that got too bloated, but the other songs would be regarded well. This doesn't have the same flow as BHN, though, which is the only problem. Really, I think whatever Liam & Noel and the boys were going to put out was going to fall short of MG but there was a potential for some success and to cement their place in rock. BHN didn't do that but an album like what you listed would've helped their case a lot more. Either that or going away for another year and doing a 1998 release with a Christmas 1997 single to build the hype a bit. Liam said it best in the Supersonic documentary, Oasis was never gonna go 10 rounds. They would come at you hard and fast. He makes a great point.
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Post by modxxii on Jan 19, 2020 11:41:49 GMT -5
I saw the LORD DON'T SLOW ME DOWN dvd gig today. Liam without voice and one of their weakest setlist ever.
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Post by megyesitomate on Jan 19, 2020 13:34:42 GMT -5
I saw the LORD DON'T SLOW ME DOWN dvd gig today. Liam without voice and one of their weakest setlist ever. Without voice?!
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Post by Zingbot on Jan 19, 2020 13:39:36 GMT -5
I think it was a semi-literate way of saying his voice was shot.
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Post by modxxii on Jan 19, 2020 14:54:35 GMT -5
I saw the LORD DON'T SLOW ME DOWN dvd gig today. Liam without voice and one of their weakest setlist ever. Without voice?! Liam vocals were not good.
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Post by Beady’s Here Now on Jan 19, 2020 18:37:26 GMT -5
I saw the LORD DON'T SLOW ME DOWN dvd gig today. Liam without voice and one of their weakest setlist ever. Thought COMS 2005 was rather decent. The mix in the sound of the DVD is indeed shocking, though.
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Post by World71R on Jan 19, 2020 21:52:54 GMT -5
There's such a contrast between watching some of the later Oasis gigs and watching some of the recent solo gigs. The Oasis gigs feel so stiff and rock 'n' roll by the numbers, while Liam really captures the whole spirit of Oasis and Noel captures the brains and songwriting/arranging prowess of Oasis.
It's too bad the band didn't get BHN now right because had they done that, they would've had a solid, worldwide-charting base and room to try to new things out with such a base at hand. That really led to the band constantly looking for that "next Morning Glory" but never finding it because of any number of things (e.g. producer didn't work out, Liam didn't show up, Noel got lazy).
SOTSOG and DOYS weren't trying to chase the "next Morning Glory" but SOTSOG had Noel dealing with depression and panic attacks from coming off of drugs and the band not only losing the chance to make it big but losing two founding member. On top of that, Noel left during the tour. Meanwhile DOYS had a fuck-y last month of recording and the band breaking up at the end of the tour. This really illustrates how the squabbling didn't help either with fully executing any new ground and contributed to the band chasing the "next Morning Glory".
I love our boys but it just sucks that what we're seeing now, with Liam bringing his brash, relatable spirit and iconic voice and Noel branching out and trying new things, never truly came together when they were together.
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Post by megyesitomate on Jan 19, 2020 22:34:56 GMT -5
Liam vocals were not good. I understood. It was just surprising to see someone thinking that his voice wasn’t good. I think his voice was just ideal for Turn Up the Sun, Lyla, The Meaning of Soul and the likes of these, but ultimately, the kind of singing that he presented that night led to him having an absolutely horrendous voice at later gigs when he didn’t get to rest before concerts. Also, the mix was shit. I much prefer the V Festival gig from that year.
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Post by Lennon2217 on Jan 20, 2020 1:31:21 GMT -5
Buried under a bed of keyboards and heavy drums is a pretty sweet guitar solo at the tail end of TSOTL. Wish they pushed it more to the front. It’s kinda swallowed up as recorded.
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Post by mkoasis on Jan 20, 2020 11:00:13 GMT -5
I listened to the Finsbury Park 2002 gig (the broadcasted night) for the first time in probably just over a year. It put such a smile on my face. The HC songs sound so much better than on the album and the older songs they played were tremendous - hello, DYKWIM, go let it out, some might say. Throughout that tour we got a pretty good variety of songs played that we sadly didn’t see again on the DBTT and DOYS tour.
Anyways, point being: amazing gig. I wish I could have been there.
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