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Post by defmaybe00 on May 28, 2015 15:05:35 GMT -5
mimmihopps seeing that this got playpenned could you move all the videos I posted in the Mexican gig's thread in the NGHFB tour section? Some people might like to see them Moved all the videos to a new thread live4ever.proboards.com/thread/82333/Thanks Eva
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Post by jaq515 on May 28, 2015 15:07:17 GMT -5
Yeah defo this morning when people were posting about Tom, mainly in a negative way (not a generalisation but about him personally which i didn't think was acceptable on the forum? but guess it is my mistake) Now Tom's come and said his side it should be play penned.. But yes obv all these 'arguments' don't ever end up anywhere i agree I playpenned it but not because tom is defending himself, but because people go on and on and on after we asked to just fucking relax. Why can't some people let go? Do you ALWAYS have to win an "argument"? And this is generally speaking, I don't take sides, I don't even know how this whole thing started but it's pretty ridiculous To quote Noel himself, Everybody just fucking calm down. thomaslivesforever is not a troll, but we must all admit that too many of his posts are deliberately polemic, aggressive and slightly hateful. It looks like he wants to start a useless fight in every thread and, speaking as a massive Oasis fan who loves both Noel and Liam and isn't blindfolded like somebody else on here, I find this VERY irritating. People may overreact, but if certain folks stopped posting sneaky digs with the clear intention of creating a war this place would be much, much better. Cheers. what part of this did YOU LIKE out of interest? To me saying some one is polemic, aggressive, hateful and wants to start a fight is quite personal. Obv its his opinion but i thought opinions like that about members weren't tolerated.. like i say obviously I'm mistaken. It's crazy it wasn't playpenned when people got personal, i've seen many posts disappear, over they years when a member is getting slighted. Today only when people defend themselves, it then disappears (cos they or i can't let i go but was ok for everyone earlier to post about him so they defo let it go) I personally don't care ill say my opinion on things when i want too, but considering you want to everyone to 'just fucking calm down' What do you expect me to say to your ALWAYS have to win "argument" question. What argument was i trying to win? or is it a trick so if i answer ill be out of order for defending myself like tom was? .. anyway my answer would be sausages..
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Post by eva on May 28, 2015 15:16:02 GMT -5
Anything I reply to all that will obviously continue this inane argument, which I have zero intentions of doing. Have a nice day
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Post by jaq515 on May 28, 2015 15:24:15 GMT -5
Anything I reply to all that will obviously continue this inane argument, which I have zero intentions of doing. Have a nice day obv raising quote fonts doest exacerbate are annoy a situation either as was also done earlier.. They were genuine questions Have a great day
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Post by carlober on May 28, 2015 15:24:30 GMT -5
To me saying some one is polemic, aggressive, hateful and wants to start a fight is quite personal. Obv its his opinion but i thought opinions like that about members weren't tolerated.. like i say obviously I'm mistaken. As you might now, English is not my first language so that post of mine could sound harsher than it really was. I was just really sad (and a bit angry to be honest) to see that too many innocent threads get derailed because somebody, intentionally or not, writes a slightly polemic or sarcastic post, KNOWING that somebody else will react badly to it. And this is true for both parties (my opinion is that there shouldn't really be parties on here, but apparently there are). I'm fucking tired of all this Noel vs Liam bullshit. I'm tired of reading leak4ever's posts when he behaves like a troll, and I'm equally tired of reading tomlivesforever's posts when he acts like he's some sort of a victim because he's on "side Liam" while apparently most of the forum is on "side Noel" (have I already said that this side thing is complete bullshit? Yes I have). As you know, I have huge respect for you jaq515, but I don't think that anybody should be defended in this situation. And sorry for my poor English which doesn't allow to express my thoughts in a proper way.
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Post by mimmihopps on May 28, 2015 15:47:57 GMT -5
mimmihopps seeing that this got playpenned could you move all the videos I posted in the Mexican gig's thread in the NGHFB tour section? Some people might like to see them Just logged in and saw this post of yours, but eva saved me a job.
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Post by mimmihopps on May 28, 2015 15:51:02 GMT -5
and since Noel is better now and carries on his tour, everybody move on. It's a shame that an another thread got derailed.
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Post by jaq515 on May 28, 2015 15:59:40 GMT -5
To me saying some one is polemic, aggressive, hateful and wants to start a fight is quite personal. Obv its his opinion but i thought opinions like that about members weren't tolerated.. like i say obviously I'm mistaken. As you might now, English is not my first language so that post of mine could sound harsher than it really was. I was just really sad (and a bit angry to be honest) to see that too many innocent threads get derailed because somebody, intentionally or not, writes a slightly polemic or sarcastic post, KNOWING that somebody else will react badly to it. And this is true for both parties (my opinion is that there shouldn't really be parties on here, but apparently there are). I'm fucking tired of all this Noel vs Liam bullshit. I'm tired of reading leak4ever's posts when he behaves like a troll, and I'm equally tired of reading tomlivesforever's posts when he acts like he's some sort of a victim because he's on "side Liam" while apparently most of the forum is on "side Noel" (have I already said that this side thing is complete bullshit? Yes I have). As you know, I have huge respect for you jaq515, but I don't think that anybody should be defended in this situation. And sorry for my poor English which doesn't allow to express my thoughts in a proper way. no never it amazing that non english speakers speak basically perfect english, i wish i could speak it as good as half as you guys and its the only language i speak. Yeah i agree completely the people that dig are beyond frustration but and obv when thread derail's its a shame but as there is unfortunately the unbalanced amount on the sides of each pillar of oasis. Its defo gone to school days that the most popular kid in school wins. Which is also a shame. i have honestly have no problem at all with you and or eva or anyone at all but sometimes think looking in from the outside things aren't as equal as people think they are. Theres lots of people rocking the boat but its the people who do say instead of lurking that get made to look bad.
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Post by Crazy Joe Davola on May 28, 2015 16:38:05 GMT -5
This is the worst thread in the last 50 years...
Thanks.
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Post by thomaslivesforever on May 28, 2015 18:10:20 GMT -5
To me saying some one is polemic, aggressive, hateful and wants to start a fight is quite personal. Obv its his opinion but i thought opinions like that about members weren't tolerated.. like i say obviously I'm mistaken. As you might now, English is not my first language so that post of mine could sound harsher than it really was. I was just really sad (and a bit angry to be honest) to see that too many innocent threads get derailed because somebody, intentionally or not, writes a slightly polemic or sarcastic post, KNOWING that somebody else will react badly to it. And this is true for both parties (my opinion is that there shouldn't really be parties on here, but apparently there are). I'm fucking tired of all this Noel vs Liam bullshit. I'm tired of reading leak4ever's posts when he behaves like a troll, and I'm equally tired of reading tomlivesforever's posts when he acts like he's some sort of a victim because he's on "side Liam" while apparently most of the forum is on "side Noel" (have I already said that this side thing is complete bullshit? Yes I have). As you know, I have huge respect for you jaq515, but I don't think that anybody should be defended in this situation. And sorry for my poor English which doesn't allow to express my thoughts in a proper way. Its shame you didn't respond to me directly especially if you feel the need to name me in your post but such is life. I'm no victim nor have I ever implied as much. As I said, I'm not really a poster in the Noel sections for the reasons you put forward. That can't be said for a lot of the people talking in this thread alone. There is no 'apparently' about it when it comes to which way the forum is slanted and that's fine, it was never going to even be for a number of reasons but it might be why you notice more of the type of post I make that you dislike. There comes a point where being diplomatic and saying its six of one and half a dozen of the other just doesn't have any basis in fact. Sometimes you just have to accept there is a double standard. And so we are back to my initial post in this thread which was genuinely light hearted comment on that point and which I subsequently tried to explain to no avail. Shit happens. I'm sure people will get over it.
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Post by Crazy Joe Davola on May 28, 2015 18:50:00 GMT -5
As you might now, English is not my first language so that post of mine could sound harsher than it really was. I was just really sad (and a bit angry to be honest) to see that too many innocent threads get derailed because somebody, intentionally or not, writes a slightly polemic or sarcastic post, KNOWING that somebody else will react badly to it. And this is true for both parties (my opinion is that there shouldn't really be parties on here, but apparently there are). I'm fucking tired of all this Noel vs Liam bullshit. I'm tired of reading leak4ever's posts when he behaves like a troll, and I'm equally tired of reading tomlivesforever's posts when he acts like he's some sort of a victim because he's on "side Liam" while apparently most of the forum is on "side Noel" (have I already said that this side thing is complete bullshit? Yes I have). As you know, I have huge respect for you jaq515, but I don't think that anybody should be defended in this situation. And sorry for my poor English which doesn't allow to express my thoughts in a proper way. Its shame you didn't respond to me directly especially if you feel the need to name me in your post but such is life. I'm no victim nor have I ever implied as much. As I said, I'm not really a poster in the Noel sections for the reasons you put forward. That can't be said for a lot of the people talking in this thread alone. There is no 'apparently' about it when it comes to which way the forum is slanted and that's fine, it was never going to even be for a number of reasons but it might be why you notice more of the type of post I make that you dislike. There comes a point where being diplomatic and saying its six of one and half a dozen of the other just doesn't have any basis in fact. Sometimes you just have to accept there is a double standard. And so we are back to my initial post in this thread which was genuinely light hearted comment on that point and which I subsequently tried to explain to no avail. Shit happens. I'm sure people will get over it. Maybe you'd be better received if you didn't get into petty arguments with multiple people, I don't know. Let shit go, fuck what other people think. Don't let anyone take away your happiness and what you love. Like I've told you before, I like you other than when it comes to discussing Oasis related topics, especially BDi and Liãm. God bless.
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Post by matt on Jun 3, 2015 16:06:23 GMT -5
I bet Coldplay forums don't have this kind of action!
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Post by jaq515 on Jun 3, 2015 16:42:54 GMT -5
I bet Coldplay forums don't have this kind of action! i bet they don't too
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Post by Deleted on Jun 3, 2015 16:48:36 GMT -5
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Post by jaq515 on Jun 3, 2015 17:00:14 GMT -5
Ill believe the fact , they are one on biggest bands on the planet.. i wont click the link tho don't wont my ISP having that link in my browsing history
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Post by matt on Jun 3, 2015 17:06:02 GMT -5
Ill believe the fact , they are one on biggest bands on the planet.. i wont click the link tho don't wont my ISP having that link in my browsing history You make it sound like a porn site! Well, those older Coldplay albums are basically musical porn for us Coldplay lovers.
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Post by jaq515 on Jun 3, 2015 17:14:13 GMT -5
Ill believe the fact , they are one on biggest bands on the planet.. i wont click the link tho don't wont my ISP having that link in my browsing history You make it sound like a porn site! Well, those older Coldplay albums are basically musical porn for us Coldplay lovers. Exactly and obv 99k people love their albums on that forum.. but i don't want my browser popping up active adverts for them down the side of sites, or some marketing company who's been sold my details thinking i've got a remote interest in coldplay in 2015.
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Post by matt on Jun 3, 2015 17:20:24 GMT -5
You make it sound like a porn site! Well, those older Coldplay albums are basically musical porn for us Coldplay lovers. Exactly and obv 99k people love their albums on that forum.. but i don't want my browser popping up active adverts for them down the side of sites, or some marketing company who's been sold my details thinking i've got a remote interest in coldplay in 2015. Does that actually happen - I suspect that's what cookies are for no? Besides, if I'd been on forums 10 years ago, I'd probably be on Coldplaying. But given their recent form - and rumours that production team Stargate (who write songs for Beyoncé, Chris Brown etc) are doing their next album, I'm going to keep well away from that rubbish.
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Post by mystoryisgory on Jun 3, 2015 22:14:15 GMT -5
Exactly and obv 99k people love their albums on that forum.. but i don't want my browser popping up active adverts for them down the side of sites, or some marketing company who's been sold my details thinking i've got a remote interest in coldplay in 2015. Does that actually happen - I suspect that's what cookies are for no? Besides, if I'd been on forums 10 years ago, I'd probably be on Coldplaying. But given their recent form - and rumours that production team Stargate (who write songs for Beyoncé, Chris Brown etc) are doing their next album, I'm going to keep well away from that rubbish. It can happen; once I got spammed with Arcade Fire ads when I visited Us Kids Know, and I usually turn cookies off. Online advertising can be quite intrusive these days, when the world is run by stalkers like Google.
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