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Post by allingoodtime on May 3, 2015 3:42:48 GMT -5
Quite a let down lol
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Post by Deleted on May 3, 2015 4:53:29 GMT -5
...who knows my Floyd will catch the clamps from some vegas hoe tonight.
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Post by Deleted on May 3, 2015 4:54:27 GMT -5
i think you may be disappointed. i am. thanks.
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Post by Gin & Tonic on May 3, 2015 5:24:48 GMT -5
Can't believe I woke up for that, it was a bit pish like.
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Post by sgtpeppr on May 3, 2015 7:31:06 GMT -5
i think you may be disappointed. i am. thanks. exactly what i thought would go down...just with less overhand jabs. floyd wouldve done the same thing 6 years ago. no ones found a way through. i dont think its possible... manny actually did better than i expected. won a couple of rounds even.
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Post by Deleted on May 3, 2015 7:33:03 GMT -5
Glad I didn't waste any money on that. It sounds shite and predictable.
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Post by Deleted on May 3, 2015 9:54:54 GMT -5
I thought it was closer than the judges.
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Post by Sternumman on May 3, 2015 13:22:00 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on May 3, 2015 15:33:40 GMT -5
this is awesome. i would like this 100 times if i could.
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Post by Deleted on May 4, 2015 17:30:24 GMT -5
I dont think Manny will ever get as fucked up as Yamcha did Floyd would have to take an offensive attack. Wasn't aggressive like the saibamen. Watched it on a shitty glitchy stream while beer bonging with friends and this still wasn't all that interesting. I'm glad I got drunk watching game 7 Spurs/Clippers because it was a lot better than this. Manny is a better man and honestly at the end of the day that's really all I care about. Floyd isn't one of the greatest and I don't even know shit about boxing. Just seen highlights from some of the best. Fight should have happened 5 years ago but Floyd was scaaaaaared. Manny took the defeat with pride, who knows maybe Floyd will catch the clamps from some vegas hoe tonight. Still won't be able to read the newspapers tomorrow. Sports can be shady in general but boxing is the worst about it. I was reminded tonight why the NBA is one of the best sports around, in my humble opinion. Ended up leaving a house party at 3am steaming drunk to watch it, should have just stayed there...
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Post by Deleted on May 4, 2015 18:25:21 GMT -5
May weather may go down as the best of this generation , but he is nowhere near the best pound for pound ever ....he never fought a major contender in there prime , he is a defensive boxer who can't punch ....he caught the perfect era to shine and make a fortune , so more power to him
Leanord , hagler , hearns , duran , WOULDA tore thru that defense in tnere primes , and sugar Ray Robinson who had over 200 fights. From welterweight , to light heavy weight would have destroyed him.
His record is undeniable , but when you duck your only real fight for 6 years , you can't go down with the all time greats , who accepted the challenges while thete rival was in there prime ( grant it leanord waited out hearns for the second fight ).
Not a critism just a fact ......money may weather is the best , of a very mediocre generation , nothing more .....and that boring fight proved it
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Post by Deleted on May 4, 2015 18:52:24 GMT -5
money may weather is the best , of a very mediocre generation , nothing more ..... well, maybe just a little more... he made around $100 million off that fight
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Post by Elie De Beaufour on May 4, 2015 19:05:38 GMT -5
May weather may go down as the best of this generation Unleess you're Anthony Mundine who thinks 'I'm the best, not Mayweather."
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Post by Deleted on May 4, 2015 19:56:03 GMT -5
I have been a avid fight fan since ALI Frazier 1 in 1971 , so here is my list of the best fighters I've seen in there best weight class
Featherweight - Salvador Sanchez , Undefeated , destroyed all who he fought , was thinking of going up to face duran when tragically killed in car accident ...... He had it all. Power and speed , hint duran was to big for him , but if pound for pound ever meant something , he would be right at top
Lightweight - Roberto Duran. - Got his nickname " hands of stone " here in this class , only lost 1 very controversial non title bout in that class out of 70 odd fights , he then knocked out ebstaban dejesus twice after .......he had no equal as a lightwieight , and was more feared in ring than any heavyweight , ( one time after knocking out a opponent when asked if he was happy theu translator he shook his head and said " no I was trying to kill him " ) and he was serious
Welterweight - sugar ray leanord - unlike mayweather HE FOUGHT HEARNS in there prime and if it was a 12 round fight hearns would be the best welterweight cause he was ahead on all cards , but sugar knocked him thru the ropes in the 14 th to win one of the best fights ever
Middleweight - Marvin hagler NOBODY WANTED TO FIGHT THIS MAN IN HIS PRIME he probably is the best pound for pound i ever saw , he was that good , leAnord beat him when he was a shell of the old hagler ( and many myself included thought hagler won ) If he would have been 5 years younger we would have saw the best middleweight fight ever as Carlos monzon was just as tough as hagler and retired with the middleweight title , that WOULDA been a war ...... I give a slight edge to hagler
Light heavyweight - tough as this division never stood out , but im old school and I remember Mathew saad Muhammad. As a light heavy he was best i seen , Holyfield included .
Heavyweight - the toughest call AS MOST KNOW I HAVE LITTLE RESPECT FOR ALI THE FIGHTER ....HE LOST MORE DECISIONS THAT WERE GIVEN TO HIM , and thus so many today drink FROM TNE " GREATEST " kool aid ...trust me he wasnt
My vote goes to someone I hate more than ALI. Larry Holmes .......he was Ali's sparring partner and he routinely beat up ALI in sparring , ali told him he would never give him a title shot cause he knew he was better .....so Holmes waited won it after Ali retired and held it for years ,it took a bad decision to take title away from him( Michael spinx ) Anyway THATS my list .
Of all the fighters by dominance of there weight class I would go top 3
Duran - he dominated division 11 years Hagler - about as long Sanchez - not as long cause he died. But he was great
Mayweather couldn't touch these real fighters
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Post by Cast on May 4, 2015 20:37:25 GMT -5
I think the other thing that is frustrating about Floyd - besides pretty much everything, is the fact that he loves money more than than sport. People said this fight was a business deal and I totally get that vibe. Both let the hype build for 5-6 years so that they could get even more cash money. Besides not having a competitive field of boxers, the face of the sport for this mediocre generation doesn't even love the sport with a passion, and you can kinda tell by the way he boxes.
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Post by sgtpeppr on May 5, 2015 4:04:40 GMT -5
kalas i agree with you that ali isnt the greatest. if not for his achievements outside of sport, it wouldnt even be a discussion. but i cant agree about floyd. i think he should at least be mentioned when discussing the greatest pound for pound fighters. and he can pack a punch. he just doesnt anymore. the fact that he doesnt get drawn into big punch offs, only solidifies his claim as a great boxer. smart, mature and patient. apart from manny and oscar, he fought everyone he could when he had the chance. and both those fights not happening sooner wasnt his doing. im still amazed at how manny not accepting random drug tests as part of the contract, turned into floyd 'running scared' and avoiding him?! as for duran and hagler, i think they are fighters that couldve actually broken through mayweathers defence...maybe. its hard to say. thats a nice list you put up tho. agree with pretty much everything...
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Post by Deleted on May 5, 2015 4:28:13 GMT -5
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Post by sgtpeppr on May 5, 2015 4:52:12 GMT -5
'his mama named him clay. ima call him clay'.
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Post by Deleted on May 5, 2015 9:15:36 GMT -5
kalas i agree with you that ali isnt the greatest. if not for his achievements outside of sport, it wouldnt even be a discussion. but i cant agree about floyd. i think he should at least be mentioned when discussing the greatest pound for pound fighters. and he can pack a punch. he just doesnt anymore. the fact that he doesnt get drawn into big punch offs, only solidifies his claim as a great boxer. smart, mature and patient. apart from manny and oscar, he fought everyone he could when he had the chance. and both those fights not happening sooner wasnt his doing. im still amazed at how manny not accepting random drug tests as part of the contract, turned into floyd 'running scared' and avoiding him?! as for duran and hagler, i think they are fighters that couldve actually broken through mayweathers defence...maybe. its hard to say. thats a nice list you put up tho. agree with pretty much everything... cheers glad to see some others see thru the ali farce ,stephen a smith and bayless get me sick when they rewrite alis history to the younger viewers as fot floyd , your right he belongs in convo , but in what weight class ? years ago you had strict weight classes then all these junior and super , weight classes were born to me floyd cant be besat lightweight , middle weight , or welterweight , as duran leanord and hagler would have presented questions he couldnt answer your riht he belongs , but as i said originaly he came around at a perfect time , there just were not any great fighters to me oscar was overrated , and he waited manny out but he is in convo , to me though a grade below the list i presented ,,,again cheers for liking thsat list thats what makes boxing , opinions
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Post by sgtpeppr on May 6, 2015 2:35:22 GMT -5
kalas i agree with you that ali isnt the greatest. if not for his achievements outside of sport, it wouldnt even be a discussion. but i cant agree about floyd. i think he should at least be mentioned when discussing the greatest pound for pound fighters. and he can pack a punch. he just doesnt anymore. the fact that he doesnt get drawn into big punch offs, only solidifies his claim as a great boxer. smart, mature and patient. apart from manny and oscar, he fought everyone he could when he had the chance. and both those fights not happening sooner wasnt his doing. im still amazed at how manny not accepting random drug tests as part of the contract, turned into floyd 'running scared' and avoiding him?! as for duran and hagler, i think they are fighters that couldve actually broken through mayweathers defence...maybe. its hard to say. thats a nice list you put up tho. agree with pretty much everything... cheers glad to see some others see thru the ali farce ,stephen a smith and bayless get me sick when they rewrite alis history to the younger viewers as fot floyd , your right he belongs in convo , but in what weight class ? years ago you had strict weight classes then all these junior and super , weight classes were born to me floyd cant be besat lightweight , middle weight , or welterweight , as duran leanord and hagler would have presented questions he couldnt answer your riht he belongs , but as i said originaly he came around at a perfect time , there just were not any great fighters to me oscar was overrated , and he waited manny out but he is in convo , to me though a grade below the list i presented ,,,again cheers for liking thsat list thats what makes boxing , opinions stephen A & skip are two of the biggest retards in sports journalism (if you can call what they do journalism). you should check out the segment when mark cuban came on after the mavs shut down lebron. he just destroys them...verbally.
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Post by thomaslivesforever on May 6, 2015 8:17:00 GMT -5
Mayweather is brilliant but fuck he's boring. Was really hoping Pac Man was going to take him to the cleaners
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Post by sgtpeppr on May 6, 2015 8:18:13 GMT -5
like it made a difference. manny fans clutching at straws...
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Post by sgtpeppr on May 6, 2015 8:25:59 GMT -5
Mayweather is brilliant but fuck he's boring. Was really hoping Pac Man was going to take him to the cleaners i think this idea of him being boring isnt quite accurate. due to the fight being so high profile, there was a huge influx of 'plastic' fans, that dont understand boxing (not necessarily you). its like watching a 0-0 draw with no shots on goal in football. to most its boring, but if you know what youre looking for it can still be very entertaining. for me boxing is about more than hard punches and KOs. its 'the sweet science', not UFC.
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