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Post by Deleted on Mar 6, 2014 10:09:27 GMT -5
First off this is not a race baiting question , it's a fair question. Tiger woods has not won a major in going on 6 years ..... Yet he is all espn covers or promotes in golf . All mainstream media in USA talk if in golf. BUT HE HAS NOT WON A MAJOR IN GOING ON 6 years. if So I think it's a fair question. If tiger was white. 38 injured not won a major in half decade. Would he be the main story every time me golf is mentioned I say no. And I find that sad. Really
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Post by Deleted on Mar 6, 2014 10:12:53 GMT -5
And I find it sad because then we are still not judging , promoting , based on skill but color .....if tiger was say Adam Scott and didn't win in 5 years would he be promoted to the max No ..... Sorta a bad double reverse standard ,
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Post by jakob61907 on Mar 6, 2014 11:06:20 GMT -5
First off this is not a race baiting question , it's a fair question. Tiger woods has not won a major in going on 6 years ..... Yet he is all espn covers or promotes in golf . All mainstream media in USA talk if in golf. BUT HE HAS NOT WON A MAJOR IN GOING ON 6 years. if So I think it's a fair question. If tiger was white. 38 injured not won a major in half decade. Would he be the main story every time me golf is mentioned I say no. And I find that sad. Really I haven't watched golf in a while i am into it not so much anymore. Im probably mistaken but isn't he still world number 1 in ranking? I guess its equivalent of Rodger Federer now as he hasnt won a major in a fairly long time i know tennis is different as age plays a huge factor . I mean heck Jordan has been retired for 10 years and hes still idolized in the press. The greats no matter race will always be idolized
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Post by Deleted on Mar 6, 2014 11:19:45 GMT -5
First off this is not a race baiting question , it's a fair question. Tiger woods has not won a major in going on 6 years ..... Yet he is all espn covers or promotes in golf . All mainstream media in USA talk if in golf. BUT HE HAS NOT WON A MAJOR IN GOING ON 6 years. if So I think it's a fair question. If tiger was white. 38 injured not won a major in half decade. Would he be the main story every time me golf is mentioned I say no. And I find that sad. Really I haven't watched golf in a while i am into it not so much anymore. Im probably mistaken but isn't he still world number 1 in ranking? I guess its equivalent of Rodger Federer now as he hasnt won a major in a fairly long time i know tennis is different as age plays a huge factor . I mean heck Jordan has been retired for 10 years and hes still idolized in the press. The greats no matter race will always be idolized No it's not even close to that ......roger federer is not all tennis promotes ....MJ was not all basketball promoted. There was magic , bird ....tennis has nadal , Andy , not even close to same thing
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Post by Deleted on Mar 6, 2014 11:20:44 GMT -5
You miss the point Jakob. Idolize yes. ,,,.but it's all they talk of here tiger tiger tiger ,,,they never did that with federer in tennis. My point was if tiger was white and hadn't won in 5 plus years this over promotion would not happen. Jack was forgotten til he won in 86.... FACT
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Post by jakob61907 on Mar 6, 2014 11:28:33 GMT -5
I haven't watched golf in a while i am into it not so much anymore. Im probably mistaken but isn't he still world number 1 in ranking? I guess its equivalent of Rodger Federer now as he hasnt won a major in a fairly long time i know tennis is different as age plays a huge factor . I mean heck Jordan has been retired for 10 years and hes still idolized in the press. The greats no matter race will always be idolized No it's not even close to that ......roger federer is not all tennis promotes ....MJ was not all basketball promoted. There was magic , bird ....tennis has nadal , Andy , not even close to same thing FAir enough. I mean i wasnt around say 30-40 years ago i presume it would've been the same as say Jack Nichlaus was back then? I think a big issue with golf today is theres no real consistency. When the US or British open approaches theres no real clear favourite. Anyones a chance. Between 2000-2008 Tiger was unstoppable and if you put money on him winning a major he wouldn't let you down too often. Maybe its more competitive these days as theres no real standouts. No doubting between 00 and 08 that was a great run
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Post by Deleted on Mar 6, 2014 11:33:08 GMT -5
No it's not even close to that ......roger federer is not all tennis promotes ....MJ was not all basketball promoted. There was magic , bird ....tennis has nadal , Andy , not even close to same thing FAir enough. I mean i wasnt around say 30-40 years ago i presume it would've been the same as say Jack Nichlaus was back then? I think a big issue with golf today is theres no real consistency. When the US or British open approaches theres no real clear favourite. Anyones a chance. Between 2000-2008 Tiger was unstoppable and if you put money on him winning a major he wouldn't let you down too often. Maybe its more competitive these days as theres no real standouts. No doubting between 00 and 08 that was a great run Nah it wasntt. That's my point my man. Tiger is 38 has not won. I'm not saying he won't win again. .. ( majors ) but when jack went 6 years without a major GOLF PROMOTED SEVE , WATSON. , CRENSHAW , here it's tiger tiger tiger non stop on espn , media , he is only thing they talk of .,, my point is if he was white and not won a major in this long TV and media would promote others , like they did all the time JACK INCLUDED .... Even if there is not enough winners , with tiger not winning majors why are they promoting Just a observation. Think it sux. , let him win a major again. Then promote awY I LIKE TIGER. BY THE WAY
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Post by mar on Mar 6, 2014 12:36:03 GMT -5
Hi Kalas
Now I have to be very careful here but I do know what you mean
Not just black but feminist, gay, whatever...................positive discrimination is big in this country
Sadly as ffs we ARE all equal
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Post by Sternumman on Mar 8, 2014 0:49:48 GMT -5
The ESPN headlines are always funny in golf. They will usually be something like. "Tiger five back at Doral" and not even list the leaders name. I think it has more to do with the persona and legend of Tiger and not his color. For most people, especially my generation Tiger is golf. The only time I'll watch it is if Tiger is in the hunt on the back nine on Sunday. The only two comparative figures in recent memory of American sports are Tebow and LeBron. If they fart or cough during a game that's the headline. Not necessarily the outcome of the game.
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