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Post by shinealight on Jan 2, 2014 4:48:21 GMT -5
another loss at home and...spurs, fuckin hell. when it comes to a match that they should prove to be still a force in PL ...the earlier they get rid of Moyes the better for them
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Post by Deleted on Jan 2, 2014 10:12:20 GMT -5
another loss at home and...spurs, fuckin hell. when it comes to a match that they should prove to be still a force in PL ...the earlier they get rid of Moyes the better for them You think ?? I'm no united lover ,,,,and I'm going on memory not fact so correct me if I am wrong .....but didn't sir Alex have a bad year in the beginning ? ,and then right the ship in a major way In American football two of the best coaches ever ..Tom Landry and chick noll had terrible beginnings and became legends ...moyes worked wonders at Everton made them respectable and gave a legit shot at Europe ...just sayin
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Post by Lennon2217 on Jan 2, 2014 10:55:45 GMT -5
Every day is Stalingrad for the SCUM.
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Post by shinealight on Jan 2, 2014 18:23:49 GMT -5
another loss at home and...spurs, fuckin hell. when it comes to a match that they should prove to be still a force in PL ...the earlier they get rid of Moyes the better for them You think ?? I'm no united lover ,,,,and I'm going on memory not fact so correct me if I am wrong .....but didn't sir Alex have a bad year in the beginning ? ,and then right the ship in a major way In American football two of the best coaches ever ..Tom Landry and chick noll had terrible beginnings and became legends ...moyes worked wonders at Everton made them respectable and gave a legit shot at Europe ...just sayin I don't know mate. Maybe he deserves solid support, but then... do something and try to rebuild the team. I accept the fact there are good and bad periods, like in life and shit happens even if United end up just above relegation zone this season, but .. but if u wanna attract the best players u should be in the top 4. United will never be able to offer the money City can, but in the past (and maybe I'm wrong) it was an honour to play for United (now it will be normal to go somewhere else). Some other clubs might not have the history but have the cash. Cash = better players = most likely better football. so United should go the other way IMo and offer some added value. Aaaanyway, I thought from the day one he is weak manager and managing Everton and United are two different teams. Should have signed someone like Klopp, young & energetic and not this old geezer
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Post by Deleted on Jan 2, 2014 18:37:45 GMT -5
You think ?? I'm no united lover ,,,,and I'm going on memory not fact so correct me if I am wrong .....but didn't sir Alex have a bad year in the beginning ? ,and then right the ship in a major way In American football two of the best coaches ever ..Tom Landry and chick noll had terrible beginnings and became legends ...moyes worked wonders at Everton made them respectable and gave a legit shot at Europe ...just sayin I don't know mate. Maybe he deserves solid support, but then... do something and try to rebuild the team. I accept the fact there are good and bad periods, like in life and shit happens even if United end up just above relegation zone this season, but .. but if u wanna attract the best players u should be in the top 4. United will never be able to offer the money City can, but in the past (and maybe I'm wrong) it was an honour to play for United (now it will be normal to go somewhere else). Some other clubs might not have the history but have the cash. Cash = better players = most likely better football. so United should go the other way IMo and offer some added value. Aaaanyway, I thought from the day one he is weak manager and managing Everton and United are two different teams. Should have signed someone like Klopp, young & energetic and not this old geezer
Solid points mate ...can't argue with that ...... See the Yankees here still have the money ...but it doesent seem to be a honor anymore ...some would rather go to south beach or California I agree moyes don't seem as astute in buying as sir Alex ...... Then again look at wenger arsenal supporters were calling for his head ...but no more .,,in the past he was a astute buyer ....he didn't forget , players just wanted. To move on .or choose other places .....moyes did buy well at Everton ...but your right not here .... Me personally I think after a legend is gone , you need 3 years to stamp your face on team ...Jimmie Johnson needed time to replace landry ..I doubt moyes is the answer mate , I just think he deserves more than half. Year
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Post by shinealight on Jan 2, 2014 18:55:09 GMT -5
I don't know mate. Maybe he deserves solid support, but then... do something and try to rebuild the team. I accept the fact there are good and bad periods, like in life and shit happens even if United end up just above relegation zone this season, but .. but if u wanna attract the best players u should be in the top 4. United will never be able to offer the money City can, but in the past (and maybe I'm wrong) it was an honour to play for United (now it will be normal to go somewhere else). Some other clubs might not have the history but have the cash. Cash = better players = most likely better football. so United should go the other way IMo and offer some added value. Aaaanyway, I thought from the day one he is weak manager and managing Everton and United are two different teams. Should have signed someone like Klopp, young & energetic and not this old geezer
Solid points mate ...can't argue with that ...... See the Yankees here still have the money ...but it doesent seem to be a honor anymore ...some would rather go to south beach or California I agree moyes don't seem as astute in buying as sir Alex ...... Then again look at wenger arsenal supporters were calling for his head ...but no more .,,in the past he was a astute buyer ....he didn't forget , players just wanted. To move on .or choose other places .....moyes did buy well at Everton ...but your right not here .... Me personally I think after a legend is gone , you need 3 years to stamp your face on team ...Jimmie Johnson needed time to replace landry ..I doubt moyes is the answer mate , I just think he deserves more than half. Year If I was a baseball player I would go to Cleveland and pitch like Ricky Vaugh
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Post by Deleted on Jan 2, 2014 19:01:43 GMT -5
Solid points mate ...can't argue with that ...... See the Yankees here still have the money ...but it doesent seem to be a honor anymore ...some would rather go to south beach or California I agree moyes don't seem as astute in buying as sir Alex ...... Then again look at wenger arsenal supporters were calling for his head ...but no more .,,in the past he was a astute buyer ....he didn't forget , players just wanted. To move on .or choose other places .....moyes did buy well at Everton ...but your right not here .... Me personally I think after a legend is gone , you need 3 years to stamp your face on team ...Jimmie Johnson needed time to replace landry ..I doubt moyes is the answer mate , I just think he deserves more than half. Year If I was a baseball player I would go to Cleveland and pitch like Ricky Vaugh
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Post by Deleted on Jan 5, 2014 10:07:04 GMT -5
If they beat Spurs on Wedn would not write them off in the fight for the 3rd place. Still think they can' t do better without buying two quality defenders, world class DM and anothe crative man to come up with ideas. I guess chelsea would not let Mata go to united, maybe some of the guys who went to Monaco like Moutinho , Rodriguez and might not be happy with playing only in league 1... Pastore from PSG, Praet from Anderlecht, Muniain from Bilbao. Evra, Ferdinand, Anderson, Evans, Carrick, Buttner and couple of others out to save some money for new players or give the youngsters the chance. Looks like I miss playing Football manager evans and carrick are first choice players so they ain't going Evra is out of contract at the end of the season so you would want to keep Buttner as loosing two left backs in the same season is daft. i think the worst thing is that this is almost the same squad that won the title with ease last season it's a good squad. and the most bewildering part is its are home league matches that we seem to fuck up.
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Post by Beady’s Here Now on Jan 5, 2014 13:19:14 GMT -5
No F.A. Cup for you. What a header.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 5, 2014 16:09:01 GMT -5
guess we won't be winning the treble this season.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 5, 2014 17:06:18 GMT -5
guess we won't be winning the treble this season. I'm no fan ross. But your in a rebuild year and still gonna make cl I bet
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Post by shinealight on Jan 7, 2014 3:15:12 GMT -5
If they beat Spurs on Wedn would not write them off in the fight for the 3rd place. Still think they can' t do better without buying two quality defenders, world class DM and anothe crative man to come up with ideas. I guess chelsea would not let Mata go to united, maybe some of the guys who went to Monaco like Moutinho , Rodriguez and might not be happy with playing only in league 1... Pastore from PSG, Praet from Anderlecht, Muniain from Bilbao. Evra, Ferdinand, Anderson, Evans, Carrick, Buttner and couple of others out to save some money for new players or give the youngsters the chance. Looks like I miss playing Football manager evans and carrick are first choice players so they ain't going Evra is out of contract at the end of the season so you would want to keep Buttner as loosing two left backs in the same season is daft. i think the worst thing is that this is almost the same squad that won the title with ease last season it's a good squad. and the most bewildering part is its are home league matches that we seem to fuck up. yeah they might be first choice players, but they would be warming the bench in city or chelsea. In comparison with those two teams it might be 9-2 , 8-3 when looking at the quality of the starting eleven ( for their opponents) . The only good thing is that Wayne has stayed @ utd because he should be the leading man who has the ability to decide matches on his own, but seems to be...dunno. And if u don' t win matches, then don' t loose them. Fergie was a huge factor (the same king of person Mourinho is in chelsea and knew exactly how to deal with players) but if u ask me, such a drastic difference in results, would doubt if everything is all right with relationship players-players, player-manager.
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Post by shinealight on Jan 7, 2014 16:46:50 GMT -5
Another loss. Rafael, Evans, Cleverly, Carrick, Evra, Welbeck, Januzaj, Smalling, Giggs, Fletcher...u r clumsy cock suckers and not footballers. Might take off Januzaj off that list because of his age... but the rest clueless. Now Moyes should stood his ground and send few of them to b team somewhere to League One and if that would be too muc for them send them to Tesco ti fill up shelves that is where those so called footballers belong.
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Post by Let It Bleed on Jan 27, 2014 13:11:14 GMT -5
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Post by Greedy's Mighty Sigh on Jan 27, 2014 15:52:44 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on Jan 27, 2014 15:59:37 GMT -5
My man . Good to c u !
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Post by Deleted on Jan 27, 2014 16:51:31 GMT -5
You know not many dislike united more than I here ....in my younger years , I created more than a little mischief in tube stations and grounds in Manchester all in good fun . But there is no demise , much like the Yankees in this era of huge money , they will spend and bounce back next year , the game has changed too much . When Liverpool dominated and big money football took over , they couldn't keep up ....united sadly can ...and will ....next year
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Post by matt on Jan 27, 2014 17:26:37 GMT -5
You know not many dislike united more than I here ....in my younger years , I created more than a little mischief in tube stations and grounds in Manchester all in good fun . But there is no demise , much like the Yankees in this era of huge money , they will spend and bounce back next year , the game has changed too much . When Liverpool dominated and big money football took over , they couldn't keep up ....united sadly can ...and will ....next year I think so too, they are just too big to fail. Even if they don't get in the Champions League this year, I see it more as a blip rather than this 'decline' that is being spoken of. It will only be a decline if they begin to make a habit of not making the Champions League. Liverpool's decline came with the beginning of mega money in the Premier League, and they never have been business savvy like United were. One example was that under David Moores, their online shop was only open 9-5pm UK time, meaning places abroad couldn't even access it at reasonable hours. It's that kind of amateurish business that has kept Liverpool well behind United. Only in the last few years have they got owners competent and with a proven record in sports business to boost the profile of the club and market it well. That's a few years compared to over 20 years of United's clever business dealings. Being a massive football fan, I'd like to see them back to the best as they go about football the right way and the club as a cultural institution in this country are massive - and of course, they gave us the greatest football match in living memory in Istanbul 2005. As for United, I like David Moyes and I think he's a respectable guy. I hope he is given the time as I'm sure he will get it right. I think the only criticism I could give him is that he has attempted to change things a bit too quickly with the overhaul of the coaching staff. What's going on with United I would much rather prefer to happen to Chelsea. A club with no history, with plastic fans (and their plastic flags) along with their terrible style of play and their arrogant manager - no thank you, if there is one club I'd love to see disintegrate into oblivion it is them. Even the rest of Europe hates them, and despite the love for Mourinho amongst the sycophantic British press, he's hated in the continent in Spain and Italy, which is why he had to come crawling back to the UK where the gutter press lap him up. Rant over!
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Post by Deleted on Jan 27, 2014 17:34:27 GMT -5
You know not many dislike united more than I here ....in my younger years , I created more than a little mischief in tube stations and grounds in Manchester all in good fun . But there is no demise , much like the Yankees in this era of huge money , they will spend and bounce back next year , the game has changed too much . When Liverpool dominated and big money football took over , they couldn't keep up ....united sadly can ...and will ....next year I think so too, they are just too big to fail. Even if they don't get in the Champions League this year, I see it more as a blip rather than this 'decline' that is being spoken of. It will only be a decline if they begin to make a habit of not making the Champions League. Liverpool's decline came with the beginning of mega money in the Premier League, and they never have been business savvy like United were. One example was that under David Moores, their online shop was only open 9-5pm UK time, meaning places abroad couldn't even access it at reasonable hours. It's that kind of amateurish business that has kept Liverpool well behind United. Only in the last few years have they got owners competent and with a proven record in sports business to boost the profile of the club and market it well. That's a few years compared to over 20 years of United's clever business dealings. Being a massive football fan, I'd like to see them back to the best as they go about football the right way and the club as a cultural institution in this country are massive - and of course, they gave us the greatest football match in living memory in Istanbul 2005. As for United, I like David Moyes and I think he's a respectable guy. I hope he is given the time as I'm sure he will get it right. I think the only criticism I could give him is that he has attempted to change things a bit too quickly with the overhaul of the coaching staff. What's going on with United I would much rather prefer to happen to Chelsea. A club with no history, with plastic fans (and their plastic flags) along with their terrible style of play and their arrogant manager - no thank you, if there is one club I'd love to see disintegrate into oblivion it is them. Even the rest of Europe hates them, and despite the love for Mourinho amongst the sycophantic British press, he's hated in the continent in Spain and Italy, which is why he had to come crawling back to the UK where the gutter press lap him up. Rant over! Spot on ...couldn't say it better. I was there at start of EPL. And remember the glory of pool ... They were not equoipped or ready for big money footy , they thought there name would lead them to sign players ...... I love Liverpool the city. But if I had my choice to live and play in the UK. In this order it would be ..,...Manchester - London - Newcastle - Liverpool. Great rant. One of your beats And you have many great ones !
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Post by Deleted on Jan 27, 2014 17:36:18 GMT -5
matt you know your so spot on " Chelsea rent boys ". They are a soulless passionless club. Been to the bridge numerous times , crowd leaves early and is there to be seen ....tossers ( most not all )
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Post by Deleted on Jan 27, 2014 19:27:30 GMT -5
Mourinho is a legend, just look at what he has won.
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Post by shinealight on Jan 28, 2014 8:12:33 GMT -5
Mata is a world class player, just not too sure if they would not need ball winning bulldog more. And new defenders
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Post by matt on Jan 28, 2014 23:19:26 GMT -5
Mourinho is a legend, just look at what he has won. Yeah, it's easy to have a good CV with all the resources he's had at clubs, and he couldn't beat a Barca team on a consistent basis who had an equal side to the Madrid team. One achievement with Porto in a weird Champions League in 2004 is still his best achievement but I took delight when I heard he burst into tears when Sir Alex passed up the opportunity to give him the job. If he played brilliant football, it would be easy to admire him. He doesn't - he plays the worst brand of football known to man. Football is the beautiful game, and Chelsea are quite rightly hated. Guardiola is the greatest manager in the game today, and quite rightly, trumps Mourinho repeatedly. The day that many more managers get under his skin will be great for football.
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Post by matt on Jan 28, 2014 23:23:17 GMT -5
matt you know your so spot on " Chelsea rent boys ". They are a soulless passionless club. Been to the bridge numerous times , crowd leaves early and is there to be seen ....tossers ( most not all ) Ha ha, cheers kalas! I dislike United but when they play against Liverpool, it's with great anticipation. A lot of respect for United's achievements, like Liverpool a great cultural institution for the country and provide us with much fascination. But when Chelsea play the other big clubs it's not with anticipation, I'm just like 'you know what, this shouldn't even be happening - Chelsea have no right to be up there with the big boys'. That sounds really arrogant but when you meet their fans, you know what I mean - fans who only have memories from 2004 onwards.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 29, 2014 10:29:19 GMT -5
Mourinho is a legend, just look at what he has won. Yeah, it's easy to have a good CV with all the resources he's had at clubs, and he couldn't beat a Barca team on a consistent basis who had an equal side to the Madrid team. One achievement with Porto in a weird Champions League in 2004 is still his best achievement but I took delight when I heard he burst into tears when Sir Alex passed up the opportunity to give him the job. If he played brilliant football, it would be easy to admire him. He doesn't - he plays the worst brand of football known to man. Football is the beautiful game, and Chelsea are quite rightly hated. Guardiola is the greatest manager in the game today, and quite rightly, trumps Mourinho repeatedly. The day that many more managers get under his skin will be great for football. I don't think you are giving the credit that is due. That barca team was the generations finest and he managed to win the title with record points against them he has won the champions league twice, it's not as though inter had been regular winners of that competition. He won the title for chelsea in his first season even with the cash it was a big achievement there first title in 50 years.
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