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Post by Bruno on Aug 5, 2013 7:27:37 GMT -5
This thread is a madhouse! #Seinfeld
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Post by Deleted on Aug 5, 2013 7:35:16 GMT -5
I don't see the words "dickhead" in the post you replied too or any of his last several posts in this thread. Are you fighting with him in another thread as well? no fighting from me. discussion on people's own terms. like you say, it's private. why should they let anyone know straight away? it might be fucking life threatening for fuck sakes, or they might not know the full extent yet. we'll know when the family want us to know. What's the problem with that? What ever it is, I hope the vaginas on here that are taking some kind of perverse pleasure out of it re Beady Eye's career are now seen for the fools they are. Listen DICKHEAD Stop misquoting people and putting different spins on what others post. i'm saying it's private to them and you're agreeing. Stop getting your pants in a twist! if people can't take it, they shouldn't give it. I'm happy to debate with anyone in the style and language they themselves use. i take you comments under advisement. however, I don't rant, unless ranted to. I've never said anyone should or shouldn't 'care' about anything, simply pointed out when someone mistakenly states that money is lost or careers are finished for whatever reasons. In many ways, Beady Eye ar doing 'just dandy'. The question seems to be whether or not it is dandy enough for some fans on the forum. Frankly i think it would be far more useful if you were less sanctimonious.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 5, 2013 7:35:38 GMT -5
Why must they tell people of things like this? Must everyone know everything that's going on? Gem has the right to privacy, as do the rest of the band. They're not animals in a zoo to be looked at all day long and that goes for the people who said when Liam was first rumoured to be the rock star who the love child belonged to, that he should come out and tell everyone on Twitter if it was. No he shouldn't, he doesn't have to do anything, nor does their management. The suspicion that this is the death knell for Beady Eye only came about because the haters decided it because they would all love for it to happen really. Even if Gem posted a picture of him with a with casts on his arms and legs, people on here would still speculate "oh, I wonder if Liam took too much cocaine and swung at him..." Gem getting hurt and Liam having a love child aren't equivalent. I was one of the first to say it was absurd to expect Liam to weigh in on twitter. It's a legal battle and it's strictly personal. No one has a right to know. People CAN expect to know about Gem's condition though because they are cancelling professional obligations for it which does affect the fans. Particularly since THEY promised more information. If the way he did it was embarrassing they don't need to give us the story...just the basic injury and let us know he's OK. It's only because we care about Gem that we want to know he is OK. The longer the silence goes on the more concerned I am that it's something big. At 48 hrs they should have had a good idea of the recovery time for most things as simple as a broken bone and acted accordingly. Yeah, that's fair enough I suppose. I'm not too bothered by what's wrong with him as long as he is alright, it's up to Gem and his missus whether they want to tell people the details on his absence or keep it to themselves
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Post by oneeye on Aug 5, 2013 7:39:54 GMT -5
I'd expect some kind of news this week.
As I said before, it's Gem's business but when you have fans, it would just be nice to know how he is - I think most on here would agree!
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Post by gdforever on Aug 5, 2013 7:50:34 GMT -5
Gem getting hurt and Liam having a love child aren't equivalent. I was one of the first to say it was absurd to expect Liam to weigh in on twitter. It's a legal battle and it's strictly personal. No one has a right to know. People CAN expect to know about Gem's condition though because they are cancelling professional obligations for it which does affect the fans. Particularly since THEY promised more information. If the way he did it was embarrassing they don't need to give us the story...just the basic injury and let us know he's OK. It's only because we care about Gem that we want to know he is OK. The longer the silence goes on the more concerned I am that it's something big. At 48 hrs they should have had a good idea of the recovery time for most things as simple as a broken bone and acted accordingly. Yeah, that's fair enough I suppose. I'm not too bothered by what's wrong with him as long as he is alright, it's up to Gem and his missus whether they want to tell people the details on his absence or keep it to themselves That was my point. We don't know he is alright. They've not even released that he is in stable condition. I think that would be nice to know at minimum. Right now he could have anything from a broken wrist to and severe head injury and he is in a coma in critical condition.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 5, 2013 7:53:07 GMT -5
Yeah, that's fair enough I suppose. I'm not too bothered by what's wrong with him as long as he is alright, it's up to Gem and his missus whether they want to tell people the details on his absence or keep it to themselves That was my point. We don't know he is alright. They've not even released that he is in stable condition. I think that would be nice to know at minimum. Right now he could have anything from a broken wrist to and severe head injury and he is in a coma in critical condition. Yep, we've just got to be patient and wait until they're ready to update us, though it would be nice to at least know the severity of the injury as you said
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Post by leak4ever on Aug 5, 2013 8:37:23 GMT -5
Beady Eye announced they would perform at festivals, fans paid to see performances, Beady Eye cancel said performances, Beady Eye should apologise to paying fans.
Why is this so hard to understand? Everything, from this to the album launch, has been amateurish. Still nothing on the OFFICIAL website. It would take literally a minute to put the press release on there.
BE has succeeded in being the biggest failure of any Gallagher release. Fully deserved too.
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Post by leak4ever on Aug 5, 2013 8:41:27 GMT -5
The reluctance to believe that Gem is really injured all stems from Liam being a dishonest, untrustworthy cretin. If Gem is genuinely injured to the extent that he can't play, then I take back everything I've said in this thread and hope that it's not too serious. You see Liam, this is what happens when you behave like a knobhead towards your family. You lose the trust of your fans too. And call your wife ffs. Why did Liam himself come out and say that Gem was injured? "You lose the trust of your fans too" We both know that you aren't a fan of Liam's and you've only made this more apparent by labelling Liam a 'cretin'. Dishonest and untrustworthy he may be in the light of recent events, but to label him a cretin is to just uncalled for as with most of your posts Someone who has cheated on all of his wives is a cretin in my books. A legend of a rock star, but a cretin of a human being.
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Post by tomlivesforever on Aug 5, 2013 9:00:27 GMT -5
Beady Eye announced they would perform at festivals, fans paid to see performances, Beady Eye cancel said performances, Beady Eye should apologise to paying fans. Why is this so hard to understand? Everything, from this to the album launch, has been amateurish. Still nothing on the OFFICIAL website. It would take literally a minute to put the press release on there. BE has succeeded in being the biggest failure of any Gallagher release. Fully deserved too. People who go specifically to see one act at festivals are idiots and thankfully from my festival experiences in the minority. Go and see them on there own tour. Gem is injured, they have released the information. What's the problem with that?
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Post by Pat Butcher on Aug 5, 2013 9:18:22 GMT -5
LACK OF PROFESSIONALISM ONCE AGAIN.
SIMPLE AS THAT.
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Post by leak4ever on Aug 5, 2013 9:19:56 GMT -5
Beady Eye announced they would perform at festivals, fans paid to see performances, Beady Eye cancel said performances, Beady Eye should apologise to paying fans. Why is this so hard to understand? Everything, from this to the album launch, has been amateurish. Still nothing on the OFFICIAL website. It would take literally a minute to put the press release on there. BE has succeeded in being the biggest failure of any Gallagher release. Fully deserved too. People who go specifically to see one act at festivals are idiots and thankfully from my festival experiences in the minority. Go and see them on there own tour. Gem is injured, they have released the information. What's the problem with that? Yeah, you're right. A Japanese Beady Eye fan paying to see Beady Eye at a Japanese festival. F*cking idiots. With everything that's been going on with Liam, by releasing a pony and amateurish press release, it just gives more ammunition for negative press. For example: www.mirror.co.uk/3am/celebrity-news/liam-gallagher-lovechild-beady-eye-2127381Do you think this looks good for the band? If anything, it's a disservice to Gem who is probably genuinely injured but will instead by labelled as a fraud by many.
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Post by defmaybe00 on Aug 5, 2013 9:30:14 GMT -5
LACK OF PROFESSIONALISM ONCE AGAIN. SIMPLE AS THAT. Can you stop being a troll for a fucking minute? Can we wait to know what happened to Gem? It's not like everything is a conspiracy,there isn't something "obscure" behind all the things,Gem is an human being,he could be seriusly injured or just have a little problem,why it has to be a lie? Just waut guys,it's easy
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Post by Deleted on Aug 5, 2013 9:40:27 GMT -5
Beady Eye announced they would perform at festivals, fans paid to see performances, Beady Eye cancel said performances, Beady Eye should apologise to paying fans. Why is this so hard to understand? Everything, from this to the album launch, has been amateurish. Still nothing on the OFFICIAL website. It would take literally a minute to put the press release on there. BE has succeeded in being the biggest failure of any Gallagher release. Fully deserved too.I disrespectfully disagree
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Post by Drums91 on Aug 5, 2013 9:58:06 GMT -5
The time people waste arguing on here is unreal. 9 pages of what? BULLSHIT, get well soon Gem.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 5, 2013 10:22:54 GMT -5
I think you are all freaks!!!! So keep up the good work
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Post by Pat Butcher on Aug 5, 2013 10:27:37 GMT -5
LACK OF PROFESSIONALISM ONCE AGAIN. SIMPLE AS THAT. Can you stop being a troll for a fucking minute? Can we wait to know what happened to Gem? It's not like everything is a conspiracy,there isn't something "obscure" behind all the things,Gem is an human being,he could be seriusly injured or just have a little problem,why it has to be a lie? Just waut guys,it's easy Nearly 2 and a half days have passed now and the fans are not a bit the wiser. Another half-arsed approach to an important piece of business. LACK OF PROFESSIONALISM no matter what way you look at it.
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Post by eva on Aug 5, 2013 10:31:53 GMT -5
Can you stop being a troll for a fucking minute? Can we wait to know what happened to Gem? It's not like everything is a conspiracy,there isn't something "obscure" behind all the things,Gem is an human being,he could be seriusly injured or just have a little problem,why it has to be a lie? Just waut guys,it's easy Nearly 2 and a half days have passed now and the fans are not a bit the wiser. Another half-arsed approach to an important piece of business. LACK OF PROFESSIONALISM no matter what way you look at it. Why does it even bother you? You don't seem like a fan at all. Stop trolling.
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Post by olesiadudnik on Aug 5, 2013 11:18:30 GMT -5
This thread is pure entertainment at this point. Seven pages of fellow "fans" ragging war against one another over Gem's mysterious injury and the future of Beady Eye. "I hate sad endings." - Lennon2217, in this thread no less. ..it's as if an oh-so-mighty thoroughbred was brandishing his own whip. What evolution.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 5, 2013 11:25:23 GMT -5
This thread is pure entertainment at this point. Seven pages of fellow "fans" ragging war against one another over Gem's mysterious injury and the future of Beady Eye. "I hate sad endings." - Lennon2217, in this thread no less. ..it's as if an oh-so-mighty thoroughbred was brandishing his own whip. What evolution. Lennon's not going to reply so you may as well not bother.
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Post by olesiadudnik on Aug 5, 2013 11:40:09 GMT -5
"I hate sad endings." - Lennon2217, in this thread no less. ..it's as if an oh-so-mighty thoroughbred was brandishing his own whip. What evolution. Lennon's not going to reply so you may as well not bother. Of course while all the other, erm let's say, inferiors are adapting themselves to their environments, Man and Lennon2217 are too busy involve in an endless and automatic process of regenera--- uhh, improvement. So let's get on with it, shall we? chop-chop. For "I hate sad endings" too-- but of course that preference is not bound with any opportunistic fueling-of-the-flames requisite, as Man and Lennon2217 would lovingly and vehemently attest to.
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Post by leak4ever on Aug 5, 2013 11:40:43 GMT -5
Beady Eye announced they would perform at festivals, fans paid to see performances, Beady Eye cancel said performances, Beady Eye should apologise to paying fans. Why is this so hard to understand? Everything, from this to the album launch, has been amateurish. Still nothing on the OFFICIAL website. It would take literally a minute to put the press release on there. BE has succeeded in being the biggest failure of any Gallagher release. Fully deserved too.I disrespectfully disagree Which part do you disagree with? The fact that it's a failure or that it's deserved? Sold poorly (sales won't even reach 6 figures) + poor reviews (58 average on metacritic) = failure Poor promotion + unprofessionalism = deserved I'm not saying the quality of the album is poor in any way. It's a good record.
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Post by sammygreen on Aug 5, 2013 11:50:18 GMT -5
Why did Liam himself come out and say that Gem was injured? "You lose the trust of your fans too" We both know that you aren't a fan of Liam's and you've only made this more apparent by labelling Liam a 'cretin'. Dishonest and untrustworthy he may be in the light of recent events, but to label him a cretin is to just uncalled for as with most of your posts Someone who has cheated on all of his wives is a cretin in my books. A legend of a rock star, but a cretin of a human being. im so sorry who hurt you? troll dickhead
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Post by Deleted on Aug 5, 2013 11:56:49 GMT -5
I disrespectfully disagree Which part do you disagree with? The fact that it's a failure or that it's deserved? Sold poorly (sales won't even reach 6 figures) + poor reviews (58 average on metacritic) = failure Poor promotion + unprofessionalism = deserved I'm not saying the quality of the album is poor in any way. It's a good record. I care not for sales, (or lack of in Beady Eye's case) nor for bad reviews. What matters to me is what I think of it and I think there's some damn good tracks on there so it's not a failure to me as they set out to make a good album and they've done just that. Obviously I don't think it deserves to be a failure as I like the album, which puzzles me to why you say you think it's a good record and yet say it deserves to be a failure... Promotion is not really down to them and unprofessionalism hardly matters, the album was always going to be a failure if people expected decent sales from a band of middle-aged men fronted by a man who is considered "irrelevant" in comparison to his brother, whilst the public opinion of him is that he's an idiot (an opinion which you seem to share). By the time Liam cheating came out in the press, the album had already "bombed".
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Post by oneeye on Aug 5, 2013 12:14:52 GMT -5
Which part do you disagree with? The fact that it's a failure or that it's deserved? Sold poorly (sales won't even reach 6 figures) + poor reviews (58 average on metacritic) = failure Poor promotion + unprofessionalism = deserved I'm not saying the quality of the album is poor in any way. It's a good record. I care not for sales, (or lack of in Beady Eye's case) nor for bad reviews. What matters to me is what I think of it and I think there's some damn good tracks on there so it's not a failure to me as they set out to make a good album and they've done just that. Obviously I don't think it deserves to be a failure as I like the album, which puzzles me to why you say you think it's a good record and yet say it deserves to be a failure... Promotion is not really down to them and unprofessionalism hardly matters, the album was always going to be a failure if people expected decent sales from a band of middle-aged men fronted by a man who is considered "irrelevant" in comparison to his brother, whilst the public opinion of him is that he's an idiot (an opinion which you seem to share). By the time Liam cheating came out in the press, the album had already "bombed". Kinda agree on both parts. Most on here love the album and there are songs on there which I think deserve attention. There's definitely a lack of promo being done from all corners. There just doesnt seem a drive. We had a few radio interviews but no TV (yet). Would have loved them do part of those accoustic sets on a tv show. Let people see how Liam can sing - rather than what non-fan see as the stereotypical Liam growl & sneer.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 5, 2013 12:22:29 GMT -5
I care not for sales, (or lack of in Beady Eye's case) nor for bad reviews. What matters to me is what I think of it and I think there's some damn good tracks on there so it's not a failure to me as they set out to make a good album and they've done just that. Obviously I don't think it deserves to be a failure as I like the album, which puzzles me to why you say you think it's a good record and yet say it deserves to be a failure... Promotion is not really down to them and unprofessionalism hardly matters, the album was always going to be a failure if people expected decent sales from a band of middle-aged men fronted by a man who is considered "irrelevant" in comparison to his brother, whilst the public opinion of him is that he's an idiot (an opinion which you seem to share). By the time Liam cheating came out in the press, the album had already "bombed". Kinda agree on both parts. Most on here love the album and there are songs on there which I think deserve attention. There's definitely a lack of promo being done from all corners. There just doesnt seem a drive. We had a few radio interviews but no TV (yet). Would have loved them do part of those accoustic sets on a tv show. Let people see how Liam can sing - rather than what non-fan see as the stereotypical Liam growl & sneer. Yeh, I agree. It's a massive shame that more people didn't see the performance of Second Bite and Start Anew on Oui FM, bloody brilliant vocal from Liam but there you go... Interesting that you mention a lack of drive and I remember watching one of the first interviews where Liam, Gem and Andy talked to a woman from XFM (I think) and even then, right at the start of the promotion campaign they didn't seem too excited by it all. Even by Liam's standards, he looked pretty lifeless.
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