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Post by Tapir on Jul 22, 2013 19:49:22 GMT -5
WTF!!! hahahah how could I not notice that, litteraly rolling on the floor laughing right now hahaha
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Post by cigarsinhell on Jul 22, 2013 19:57:50 GMT -5
Ha ha ha! Get thee to a nunnery, Liam!
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Post by cigarsinhell on Jul 22, 2013 19:59:43 GMT -5
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Post by Rolo on Jul 22, 2013 20:02:56 GMT -5
WTF!!! hahahah how could I not notice that, litteraly rolling on the floor laughing right now hahaha Hahahaha fucking amazing!
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Post by cigarsinhell on Jul 22, 2013 20:05:47 GMT -5
hahahah how could I not notice that, litteraly rolling on the floor laughing right now hahaha Hahahaha fucking amazing! Hopefully he's wearing a chastity belt under that penguin suit.
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Post by space75gr on Jul 23, 2013 4:38:05 GMT -5
in youtube more than 180.000 views in just one day!
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Post by mayugem on Jul 23, 2013 6:41:08 GMT -5
WTF!!! Hahaha you've made my day.
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Post by dreamweaver on Jul 23, 2013 6:46:35 GMT -5
haha one of the funniest things I've seen in a long time that.
Can imagine him saying if our kid can fookin dress up a priest then I'm gonna be a Nun, Man!
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Post by theultimatewannabe on Jul 23, 2013 10:50:30 GMT -5
thanks for taking the time to make a considered reply. Your welcome, and thank YOU for your meticulous rebuttal. However I now believe there is great disparity in the way we define some key words here. I will try my best to put what I have seen as the differences into my clearest words possible, along with some other opinions .. The fundamental difference between us, in my opinion, is how we define the word "superior" or/and the word "better." (I'll assume we're both using these two words synonymously.) The way I understand it now is that your definition mainly denotes assessment in the quality, while mine tends more to assessment in the utility. You were the music critic; I was the marketer. That is, when you were making the argument that "visuals don't make music better," you were stating that visuals are not to be assessed as part of the music, for being "better" is having a higher quality (whatever the criteria for that may be) and visuals can never change the quality of the music itself. On the other hand, I was focusing more on how visuals, whilst not changing the music itself, imprint unforgettable images that will forever be firmly attached to the original conception you have had about the music itself. In other words, a music product that also provides good visuals becomes stronger, memorable, and most importantly, saleable. Hence I took a strictly marketing standpoint and believed that it could as well be considered making the music "better" since profitable strategies are better strategies. I understand that I might be being overly analytic here. But an important factor to consider is that the main target audiences of a newly made music video are not only the avid fans like us but also the casual and potential ones. We were exposed enough to Shine A Light the song, enough to be able to feel that this video is negligible in our overall feelings toward the song. However, for those who were not exposed sufficiently to the solely auditory Shine A Light experience: the mood, imagery, message, the faces and attitudes of the band members, and other numerous elements in the video do contribute greatly to how they shape their images of the song. I have to admit, I had to clarify my viewpoint much earlier in my original post but was too ignorant to do so. I apologize for that; I know this is a bad excuse but I usually come around here after 14 hours (yes) of schoolwork and as much as I try to make my writing clearly convey my messages to everyone my weariness hinders me from doing so. First of all, what I claimed was this: experiences that make use of both visual and auditory senses are more intense than ones that only utilize the auditory sense. Your point that sensory bias differs from person to person is very valid and something that I failed to consider in my original argument, but I have a few points against this. First, the modern mass media such as TV and the Internet, which extensively utilizes the optical sensation, tames the majority of its subjects to be biased for the visuals. Also, regardless of what sensory preferences one has, multiple senses are still stronger than a single sense. I believe that the case you presented here does not exemplify the modern music industry nor does it prove your point. The significance of the recording technology lies mainly in that it enabled the mobility of a certain musical product to an unprecedented degree; Europeans can consume Gangnam Style, an East Asian product, just as I can consume Oasis here in South Korea. I believe it's this mobility that founded the music industry we participate in nowadays, but that's unrelated to the discussion. More significantly, in the case you presented above, the record acts merely as an agent for fortifying the original, stronger emotion: the memories of seeing them live. And that only proves my point that multisensory experiences are stronger than monosensory ones. I have to return to the logic I employed in my original argument. DVDs are included in the product cycle because they are lucrative enough, and that is because when you present visuals alongside the already released music, the consumer is effectively enticed to buy it again. As I clarified above, my intention was to use "sounding better" synonymously with "enhancing the experience." Well yes, but it's hard for music videos especially when they're bland like BDI's to provoke negative images that strong. Chances are a critical viewer will be more uninterested than dissatisfied. Sorry for interrupting the fun talk with this long dull post guys.
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Post by spaneli on Jul 23, 2013 10:51:23 GMT -5
Through two days the Shine A Light video has 185k views on Youtube. As a comparison
SBOTA: 257K views through two months. FOTF: 578k views through three months.
They've definitely have had a spike in the interest. The only thing is that spike in interest hasn't translated into increased views for one of their better songs in FOTF. And SBOTA, though not one of their better songs, views have remained mostly unchanged.
If nothing else, Beady Eye did get another chance to showcase their music.
Edit: SAL is up to 222k views. Will probably pass SBOTA in views within the next 6 or 7 hours.
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Post by The Invisible Sun on Jul 23, 2013 16:47:45 GMT -5
Through two days the Shine A Light video has 185k views on Youtube. As a comparison SBOTA: 257K views through two months. FOTF: 578k views through three months. They've definitely have had a spike in the interest. The only thing is that spike in interest hasn't translated into increased views for one of their better songs in FOTF. And SBOTA, though not one of their better songs, views have remained mostly unchanged. If nothing else, Beady Eye did get another chance to showcase their music. Edit: SAL is up to 222k views. Will probably pass SBOTA in views within the next 6 or 7 hours. This is really surprising. I think it is all owed to the scandal though. Or maybe people genuinely prefer this to Second Bite. Or a bit of both?
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Post by thetruth on Jul 23, 2013 16:53:25 GMT -5
Nah it's because of the scandal. I'm pretty sure management got this out earlier even to benefit the scandal. i don't see people moaning about management now. This video is this context is kind of hilarious actually. It's funny how Liam never played the womanizer surrended by women in any videos ever, and the one time he makes this kind of shot, it's during this scandal.
The video is ok, their best by far but it wasn't that hard to beat.
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Post by allingoodtime on Jul 23, 2013 17:05:36 GMT -5
Good move from management but still looks bad for Liam
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Post by fabulousbakers on Jul 23, 2013 18:51:24 GMT -5
Great video - looks like they've actually put some effort in!
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Post by rebus on Jul 23, 2013 19:09:54 GMT -5
Good song, good video. Nice one Beady Eye.
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Post by allingoodtime on Jul 24, 2013 3:52:22 GMT -5
260k+ ..pretty good but don't think it will reach a million any time soon
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Post by Deleted on Jul 24, 2013 6:52:53 GMT -5
You were the music critic; I was the marketer. good to have a bit of a chat without pointless personal attacks and a point of view that is backed up with a thought out argument
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Post by Deleted on Jul 24, 2013 7:27:07 GMT -5
shine a light has got more views in 2 days (275,000) than SBOTA has managed in 2 months (260,000) ,good sign.
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Post by oneeye on Jul 24, 2013 16:02:54 GMT -5
Liam - fuckin hell. A nun? lol
This is brilliant and most people have probably missed it lol
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Post by oneeye on Jul 24, 2013 16:03:39 GMT -5
WTF!!! Hahaha you've made my day.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 24, 2013 16:11:37 GMT -5
A video with a bit of budget behind it has clearly worked for them... Just seen the comment... Tan Quan Giang 1 hour ago Those birds omg.. so much than the way modern girls are man look like slutty porn stars or american teen boppers. Pfftt. girls in the video and on the cover are quality... I just like the girls in beady eye vids..the birds in bring the light and shine the light .. going for a wank Not a word about the song like but at least it gets Beady Eye a bit of coverage, even if it's with randy Chinese guys...
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Post by cigarsinhell on Jul 24, 2013 17:21:15 GMT -5
Liam looks kinda cute in drag.
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Post by gdforever on Jul 24, 2013 18:04:28 GMT -5
Liam looks kinda cute in drag. You worry me....
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Post by The Morning Son on Jul 24, 2013 18:36:05 GMT -5
Whether it's Liam and his dramas or the slightly improved vid, something is working.
4 days and now over 291k views. Might even reach 400k or 500k by the end of the month. I do expect the momentum to drop a little though.
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Post by Ash & Debris on Jul 24, 2013 18:55:35 GMT -5
Only if they had made a video for Soon Come Tomorrow or Start Anew with this kind of budget...
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