Deleted
Deleted Member
Posts: 0
|
Post by Deleted on Apr 4, 2014 12:06:29 GMT -5
out of 47 games played this season Chelsea won 1-0 in 5 of them.
what does WUM mean??
|
|
|
Post by matt on Apr 7, 2014 16:29:38 GMT -5
Bayern Munich's unbeaten run ended against Ausberg on Saturday. They're getting jittery now.
Could not be a better time to play them - Man Utd have them on the ropes and I think they deserve to be winning this tie. This would be a great great result for David Moyes. He's a good man, so I'm hoping he prevails after all the shit that's been thrown at him. Cannot say I'm a fan of Bayern, watching them at Old Trafford was so incredibly dull.
Here's hoping Chelsea get beat though. The legend that is Johan Cruyff quite rightly blasting Mourinho in the press today.
|
|
|
Post by Let It 🩸 on Apr 7, 2014 16:39:22 GMT -5
Bayern Munich's unbeaten run ended against Ausberg on Saturday. They're getting jittery now. Could not be a better time to play them - Man Utd have them on the ropes and I think they deserve to be winning this tie. This would be a great great result for David Moyes. He's a good man, so I'm hoping he prevails after all the shit that's been thrown at him. Cannot say I'm a fan of Bayern, watching them at Old Trafford was so incredibly dull. Here's hoping Chelsea get beat though. The legend that is Johan Cruyff quite rightly blasting Mourinho in the press today. i read that Wayne Rooney might not play against Bayern on wednesday. he better play, the fucker. God bless.
|
|
|
Post by matt on Apr 7, 2014 16:48:12 GMT -5
Bayern Munich's unbeaten run ended against Ausberg on Saturday. They're getting jittery now. Could not be a better time to play them - Man Utd have them on the ropes and I think they deserve to be winning this tie. This would be a great great result for David Moyes. He's a good man, so I'm hoping he prevails after all the shit that's been thrown at him. Cannot say I'm a fan of Bayern, watching them at Old Trafford was so incredibly dull. Here's hoping Chelsea get beat though. The legend that is Johan Cruyff quite rightly blasting Mourinho in the press today. i read that Wayne Rooney might not play against Bayern on wednesday. he better play, the fucker. God bless. I have a sneaky feeling he will play - I think United might be bluffing. United need to start Kagawa though - I thought he did very well at the weekend, and it would be beyond belief if Tom Cleverley is in ahead of him. Plus, having played for a title winning Dortmund side, he knows how to beat Bayern. I think the amount of losses United have had, Cleverley has started in most of them.... if thats not warning to Moyes I don't know what is.
|
|
|
Post by Let It 🩸 on Apr 8, 2014 17:34:24 GMT -5
|
|
|
Post by matt on Apr 9, 2014 15:10:51 GMT -5
Currently 1-1 between Bayern and United - I said previously, Man Utd will sneak this one.
But Bayern do not deserve to go through - again, they have been awfully dull to watch. This would be cruel on United if they don't get through, because it will simply be on superior players alone. Moyes has got it spot on.
But this tie is also highlighting Guardiola's weaknesses. Whereas Hencykes team was more aggressive and exploited the likes of Robben and Ribery's talents to the full, Guardiola is more content on tentative play resulting in nothing more than possession. They lack any cutting edge - at Barca, it worked perfectly, because they had the likes of Iniesta and Messi. As good as Robben and Ribery are, they are not up to the standard of the best in Barca.
But United getting through would be a great achievement for Moyes - I think the performance is good enough to give him a second year. He has the best away form in the Premier League (yes, really) and he is able to turn disastrous seasons one year into a very good one the next year. In 03-04, Everton almost got relegated. In 04-05, they got 4th spot and Champions League football.
I think United fans would do well to remember the vast improvement's he made from bad seasons.
|
|
|
Post by jaq515 on Apr 9, 2014 15:19:42 GMT -5
Think that goal (and all the possession) deserves them the match. Utd need to pull something special to sneak this one
|
|
Deleted
Deleted Member
Posts: 0
|
Post by Deleted on Apr 9, 2014 18:10:26 GMT -5
Currently 1-1 between Bayern and United - I said previously, Man Utd will sneak this one. But Bayern do not deserve to go through - again, they have been awfully dull to watch. This would be cruel on United if they don't get through, because it will simply be on superior players alone. Moyes has got it spot on. But this tie is also highlighting Guardiola's weaknesses. Whereas Hencykes team was more aggressive and exploited the likes of Robben and Ribery's talents to the full, Guardiola is more content on tentative play resulting in nothing more than possession. They lack any cutting edge - at Barca, it worked perfectly, because they had the likes of Iniesta and Messi. As good as Robben and Ribery are, they are not up to the standard of the best in Barca. But United getting through would be a great achievement for Moyes - I think the performance is good enough to give him a second year. He has the best away form in the Premier League (yes, really) and he is able to turn disastrous seasons one year into a very good one the next year. In 03-04, Everton almost got relegated. In 04-05, they got 4th spot and Champions League football. I think United fans would do well to remember the vast improvement's he made from bad seasons. I have said all along its ludicrous to fire moyes ...he worked wonders at Everton , fergie knew when to leave , his first season he was no workd beater ....you do t forget how to manage in 1 season moyes did quite well with Everton , he deserves a shot to put his stSmp on them before getting the ax with fergie fingerprints all over this one .... And that's a neutral opinion I really can care less if they do .,.another team will scoop him up
|
|
|
Post by matt on Apr 9, 2014 21:45:28 GMT -5
Currently 1-1 between Bayern and United - I said previously, Man Utd will sneak this one. But Bayern do not deserve to go through - again, they have been awfully dull to watch. This would be cruel on United if they don't get through, because it will simply be on superior players alone. Moyes has got it spot on. But this tie is also highlighting Guardiola's weaknesses. Whereas Hencykes team was more aggressive and exploited the likes of Robben and Ribery's talents to the full, Guardiola is more content on tentative play resulting in nothing more than possession. They lack any cutting edge - at Barca, it worked perfectly, because they had the likes of Iniesta and Messi. As good as Robben and Ribery are, they are not up to the standard of the best in Barca. But United getting through would be a great achievement for Moyes - I think the performance is good enough to give him a second year. He has the best away form in the Premier League (yes, really) and he is able to turn disastrous seasons one year into a very good one the next year. In 03-04, Everton almost got relegated. In 04-05, they got 4th spot and Champions League football. I think United fans would do well to remember the vast improvement's he made from bad seasons. I have said all along its ludicrous to fire moyes ...he worked wonders at Everton , fergie knew when to leave , his first season he was no workd beater ....you do t forget how to manage in 1 season moyes did quite well with Everton , he deserves a shot to put his stSmp on them before getting the ax with fergie fingerprints all over this one .... And that's a neutral opinion I really can care less if they do .,.another team will scoop him up I like Moyes, I think he's a good man, but I don't think that's clouding my judgement on the man in thinking he should be given a fair shot. United lost 3-1 tonight but the score didn't really reflect the full 90 minutes - Bayern turned it on in the last fifteen minutes. United still put in a far better performance where better sides have been pummelled. No Champions League football is hard to take, but they can use next year to really push on and give Moyes the time to build his own foundations. It doesn't help when Ferguson's buys in his last few years were pretty average (with the exception of Van Persie). The fact he got so much out of them shows more about the quality of manager Ferguson was than Moyes being a bad manager. They're not his players anyway, so he doesn't know them that well. But once Moyes clears the dead wood from the club (and pretty disruptive influences who I think are disrespecting of the manager) then we can only judge him then. Whatever the case, no manager would have won the Premier League with this United side. Taking over from Ferguson is the hardest job in the world. It's not the demise of Man Utd, we won't see them in the wilderness like we did with Liverpool these last five years because they've got the finances to deal with it and, whatever anyone says of the Glazers, are they really that bad? Since they took over, Man Utd have won EVERYTHING. They certainly aren't like Hicks and Gillett when they ran Liverpool so what's the worry? I do hope Moyes proves the doubters wrong and is givent time.
|
|
Deleted
Deleted Member
Posts: 0
|
Post by Deleted on Apr 9, 2014 23:12:15 GMT -5
I have said all along its ludicrous to fire moyes ...he worked wonders at Everton , fergie knew when to leave , his first season he was no workd beater ....you do t forget how to manage in 1 season moyes did quite well with Everton , he deserves a shot to put his stSmp on them before getting the ax with fergie fingerprints all over this one .... And that's a neutral opinion I really can care less if they do .,.another team will scoop him up I like Moyes, I think he's a good man, but I don't think that's clouding my judgement on the man in thinking he should be given a fair shot. United lost 3-1 tonight but the score didn't really reflect the full 90 minutes - Bayern turned it on in the last fifteen minutes. United still put in a far better performance where better sides have been pummelled. No Champions League football is hard to take, but they can use next year to really push on and give Moyes the time to build his own foundations. It doesn't help when Ferguson's buys in his last few years were pretty average (with the exception of Van Persie). The fact he got so much out of them shows more about the quality of manager Ferguson was than Moyes being a bad manager. They're not his players anyway, so he doesn't know them that well. But once Moyes clears the dead wood from the club (and pretty disruptive influences who I think are disrespecting of the manager) then we can only judge him then. Whatever the case, no manager would have won the Premier League with this United side. Taking over from Ferguson is the hardest job in the world. It's not the demise of Man Utd, we won't see them in the wilderness like we did with Liverpool these last five years because they've got the finances to deal with it and, whatever anyone says of the Glazers, are they really that bad? Since they took over, Man Utd have won EVERYTHING. They certainly aren't like Hicks and Gillett when they ran Liverpool so what's the worry? I do hope Moyes proves the doubters wrong and is givent time. Spot on
|
|
|
Post by Elie De Beaufour 🐴 on Apr 10, 2014 1:48:11 GMT -5
Why are Chelsea fans forgetting Mourinho was once at Real Madrid?
|
|
|
Post by supersonic1983 on Apr 10, 2014 6:37:01 GMT -5
Whatever anyone says of the Glazers, are they really that bad? Since they took over, Man Utd have won EVERYTHING. To date the Glazers have cost United approx. £700m in debt repayments, interest, bank charges, and so forth. If you need an example of the difference that £700m can make to a football team, take a look at Manchester City.
|
|
|
Post by matt on Apr 10, 2014 10:26:45 GMT -5
Whatever anyone says of the Glazers, are they really that bad? Since they took over, Man Utd have won EVERYTHING. To date the Glazers have cost United approx. £700m in debt repayments, interest, bank charges, and so forth. If you need an example of the difference that £700m can make to a football team, take a look at Manchester City. You can't seriously expect Man Utd to throw the sort of money around like Man City and Chelsea do you? Those two clubs are, by some massive fluke, top teams because of their investors. United were always the financial model for clubs to base themselves on - not a financially doped team that fluked their way to the top. You can have it vice versa - comparative to what Man City and Chelsea have spent, Man Utd have been the far more successful club without the type of spending. Apart from this season, why does that need to change? Man Utd will always be a far more attractive prospect to potential fans or players because of their history.
|
|
|
Post by Billy Davey ツ on Apr 10, 2014 15:24:50 GMT -5
Whatever anyone says of the Glazers, are they really that bad? Since they took over, Man Utd have won EVERYTHING. To date the Glazers have cost United approx. £700m in debt repayments, interest, bank charges, and so forth. If you need an example of the difference that £700m can make to a football team, take a look at Manchester City.
|
|
|
Post by Manualex on Apr 10, 2014 17:32:41 GMT -5
So Bayern versus Atletico and RM versus Chelsea
Or Bayern versus Chelsea and Madrid Derbi?
Maybe Atletico versus Chelsea and Madrid Bayern? But in this one Curtois wouldn't play for Atletico(or he would if atletico pays 3 millons per match to chelsea)
|
|
|
Post by Let It 🩸 on Apr 11, 2014 6:11:18 GMT -5
UEFA Champions League semifinal draw: es.pn/1evTXrVReal Madrid C.F. vs. FC Bayern München Atlético de Madrid vs. Chelsea Football Club
|
|
|
Post by Elie De Beaufour 🐴 on Apr 11, 2014 6:34:09 GMT -5
UEFA Champions League semifinal draw: es.pn/1evTXrVReal Madrid C.F. vs. FC Bayern München Atlético de Madrid vs. Chelsea Football Club Want an all Spanish final, that's not happening.
|
|
|
Post by Billy Davey ツ on Apr 11, 2014 7:08:31 GMT -5
UEFA says Curtois will play. That's the best new for Atlético.
Madrid vs Bayern, that will be intense. They're German, old enemies and Pep is around.
|
|
|
Post by matt on Apr 11, 2014 9:58:29 GMT -5
Athletico Madrid v Plastics FC
That's going to be a match up - the hip and sexy new team up against Europe's most unpopular club? COME ON ATHLETICO!!!! This will be fantastic for football if Athletico won the competition.
The chances though are very high that one manager will equal Liverpool's Bob Paisley for most European Cup wins, going for number three. I actually can't predict who out of Mourinho, Ancellotti and Guardiola is most likely to win their third European Cup.
|
|
|
Post by Billy Davey ツ on Apr 13, 2014 18:45:22 GMT -5
Athletico Madrid v Plastics FC That's going to be a match up - the hip and sexy new team up against Europe's most unpopular club? COME ON ATHLETICO!!!! This will be fantastic for football if Athletico won the competition. that's why they are on top 10 of most sold shirts, cos they're ultra hated... I don't think it's fantastic. It's good to have something different, specially cos they have way less money than the other giant clubs, and it will be a huge success if they win the league or the CL. But not good for the game, as it was not good watching Greece win Euro 2004.
|
|
|
Post by matt on Apr 13, 2014 21:18:17 GMT -5
Athletico Madrid v Plastics FC That's going to be a match up - the hip and sexy new team up against Europe's most unpopular club? COME ON ATHLETICO!!!! This will be fantastic for football if Athletico won the competition. that's why they are on top 10 of most sold shirts, cos they're ultra hated... I don't think it's fantastic. It's good to have something different, specially cos they have way less money than the other giant clubs, and it will be a huge success if they win the league or the CL. But not good for the game, as it was not good watching Greece win Euro 2004. What?! Athletico play great football and they are there because of hard work and adventurous play not luck. Going by your logic, only big teams with lots of money should win? Greece played dire football and were a very average squad to win Euro 2004 so some didn't like it. So to compare Athletico with them is very harsh. Can't see how it is bad for the game - if they win the Champions League, it will be great for the game. Gives inspiration to so many teams that a bit of innovation and hard work outshine big buck sides. As far as I'm aware, everyone is pretty much rooting for them as you do with underdogs. And the potential for an all Madrid final? Seems like an epic match up, hardly detrimental to the game. As for Chelsea, it's easy to pick up glory hunters around Europe. But a poll a few years back put them down as one of the most unpopular teams ever. Most likely to do with Mourinho being regarded as a total douche no matter how good a manager is (eye gouging opponents, forcing referees into retirement), their ugly football, thuggish fans... classless club, classless fans and a classless manager - in sum, the idiots football club.
|
|
|
Post by kingcrawler on Apr 13, 2014 21:42:06 GMT -5
Athletico Madrid v Plastics FC That's going to be a match up - the hip and sexy new team up against Europe's most unpopular club? COME ON ATHLETICO!!!! This will be fantastic for football if Athletico won the competition. that's why they are on top 10 of most sold shirts, cos they're ultra hated... I don't think it's fantastic. It's good to have something different, specially cos they have way less money than the other giant clubs, and it will be a huge success if they win the league or the CL. But not good for the game, as it was not good watching Greece win Euro 2004. I don't quite get the Greece comparison. Both teams are organised and hard to break down but as Matt says Atletico are great to watch whereas Greece just shitfested their way through Euro 2004, which isn't a criticism as it was obviously successful. Not sure how it's bad for the game either, I'd say if anything it's the opposite.
|
|
|
Post by Let It 🩸 on Apr 13, 2014 21:57:07 GMT -5
|
|
|
Post by Billy Davey ツ on Apr 15, 2014 7:15:04 GMT -5
It's all a matter of taste, you know... Simeone couldn't do this kind of game in Real Madrid, Barcelona or any other big club. He would be fired after 20 matches, even if he won all them. Capello won 2 leagues with Real Madrid, and he had to leave after winning each one, cos the fans want something more than just winning. This is what good/important journalists say, not my own thought, but I must say I agree. From now on, a big IMO before every argument: Atlético fans are SO in need that they don't care about that, they just wanna win. It's ok, I'm not judging it. It's a great success for them winning the cup vs Madrid, as happened last year. They think this is the only way they have, so they all support it. The hard work is there. Kudos for them. They've got more balls than the rest, which always has been an important side of the sport. Now, talking just about they way they play... their best thing is not letting the other team do their game. Is that great football? it's just nullify them. Same as Greece. What do they propose? counter attack? long balls to Costa and hold em until the rest arrive? it was better when they had Agüero and Forlán. Plus, they play this way vs much smaller clubs, cos it's the only way they know. Their second best thing is attitude, being more intense than the rivals. This is quite helpful, but calling it "great football" is far beyond my knowledge. Is that good for the game? is that something that has to be copied? probably the attitude, but not the tactics. Still, I don't think there's "a good and only way" of playing good football, actually I think that's bullshit. I wouldn't pay to watch them on the stadium. The only player I'd like to see is Arda Turan, cos he's the one who can make different things. But the star of the team is Costa, a warrior. He's quite good, but quality is not his top virtue. For example, Real Madrid had Higuaín and he put loads and loads of effort, but that's not enough for some people. There's an old saying in Spanish that goes something like this: "when you're a soldier, courage is taken for granted". It's applied for Real Madrid players, the big effort and top quality are attributes they all MUST have, and over that, they gotta show something different. I have seen my team win lots of leagues and cups. I have seen my team win the Champions League. 3 times. I have seen my national team win an Eurocup, a WORLD CUP and an (our 3rd) Eurocup again. I have seen Iniesta with my own eyes, on a field full of world&Europe champions (including Buffon and Pirlo). I have seen Casillas making his everyday miracle. Man, after that I can not say Atlético plays great football. I just can't. But that's the beauty of sports, talking with friends
|
|
|
Post by Manualex on Apr 16, 2014 16:40:33 GMT -5
Bale doing the 'Maicon' against Barcelona
|
|