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Post by Headmaster on Oct 31, 2011 21:40:40 GMT -5
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Post by forestfan on Oct 31, 2011 21:44:18 GMT -5
just about to post that
interesting id have thought going on the love for dbbt, doys and dgss that nghb would of been 4.5 at the worst a 4/5
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Post by Deleted on Oct 31, 2011 21:46:11 GMT -5
Yawn. Yet another review where the writer was clearly looking for DM/MG, and was thus disappointed. It blows my mind why anyone would expect such a record from Noel. He has never, ever, given off the impression that he would come out with all guns blazing. This review is even more laughable when he claims that Liam somehow came out ahead with an album of decent Oasis b-sides compared to Noel's album which has no less than 5 top shelf tunes. Brilliant review as usual. Very short sighted really.
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Post by forestfan on Oct 31, 2011 21:51:58 GMT -5
listen to beady eye record again, it is as good as NGHB for me
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Post by Deleted on Oct 31, 2011 21:57:19 GMT -5
listen to beady eye record again, it is as good as NGHB for me I took a listen just yesterday to see if it really did stack up and I was really disappointed by the lack of really, really good tunes. Additionally, it drags on at 13 tracks.
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Post by Headmaster on Oct 31, 2011 21:58:28 GMT -5
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Post by forestfan on Oct 31, 2011 22:05:36 GMT -5
listen to beady eye record again, it is as good as NGHB for me I took a listen just yesterday to see if it really did stack up and I was really disappointed by the lack of really, really good tunes. Additionally, it drags on at 13 tracks. better book that hearing appointment kill for a dream is a serious tune, millionaire and 4LW
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Post by Deleted on Oct 31, 2011 22:21:04 GMT -5
I took a listen just yesterday to see if it really did stack up and I was really disappointed by the lack of really, really good tunes. Additionally, it drags on at 13 tracks. better book that hearing appointment kill for a dream is a serious tune, millionaire and 4LW 3 tunes out of 13 is a pretty bad percentage actually. I'd rather hear the 7 to 8 good tunes off of NGHFB, than wade through 13 tracks to hear 3 tunes. For the record, I love FLW, but you can't start the album that high when everything after it is so average.
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Post by Rifles on Oct 31, 2011 22:43:17 GMT -5
Millionaire is one of the most boring songs I've heard in a long time. I cannot wrap my head around the love that song receives. 4LW, TR and Wigwam are pretty good songs. The rest go from decent to crap. I don't classify any of Noel's new tunes as crap and only a couple bsides would rank as ok, the rest of the songs are good to great to fantastic. I enjoy the melodies and instrumentation more on HFB than DGSS. I hope BDI come back with a strong 2nd effort, but they'll need to do better than songs like For Anyone and STOTEOTN.
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Post by forestfan on Oct 31, 2011 23:04:43 GMT -5
jesus christ noels album isnt all its piped up to be..
and i certainly dont agree with the beady eye nay-sayers
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Post by Cast on Oct 31, 2011 23:07:42 GMT -5
I'll be honest I'm a little shocked with the rating. Usually Stephen Thomas Erlewine is a fairly balanced reviewer and he is an Oasis fan. I think he would have had more understanding of what Noel was trying to do with this album and that his recent batch of songs 2005-onward, especially the songs his sung on top of were less rock n roll. Sure the album didn't have that many crazy left turns but it seems he is hating on it because it's not a rock n rolly Oasis album (like BE's very average but still somewhat surprising effort) And to say that LAG filled up DOYS and HC with better tunes than Noel is simply not true to my ears. LAG in particular ruined DOYS from being a superb album. It's fair enough that he didn't like it, I love it and thats all that matters.
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Post by Silence Dogood on Oct 31, 2011 23:20:43 GMT -5
well this is the review i was really looking forward to, the one that really matters... We all know Rolling Stone is a fucking joke(even if their 3 1/2 stars rating i actually accurate imo), their word means nothing to me.
I haven't read the AMG review yet though, will post my thoughts after i properly do so.
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Post by Headmaster on Oct 31, 2011 23:23:43 GMT -5
And to say that LAG filled up DOYS and HC with better tunes than Noel is simply not true to my ears. He didn't say that.
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Post by manualex on Oct 31, 2011 23:25:23 GMT -5
i'll say it once: What the actual fuck?
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Post by manualex on Oct 31, 2011 23:30:54 GMT -5
And to say that LAG filled up DOYS and HC with better tunes than Noel is simply not true to my ears. He didn't say that. "... but his success ratio is no greater than it was on the last two Oasis albums, where his best tunes were buttressed by good ones from his brother and Andy Bell." Lets see what they put on the albums Turn Up The Son Keep The Dream Alive Love Like A bomb Guess God Thinks im Abel Meaning of the soul and Aint Got Notting Soldier On Nature Of Reality Im Outta time You could say that Bell and Liam's colaboration helps a lot on DBTT but he has to be blind if he thinks that those four in DOYS help(im outta time is the only one i could say that helps in the album, you could say Soldier on as well but that would be to far).
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Post by GIMH on Nov 1, 2011 1:43:17 GMT -5
If we're talking latter Oasis albums, Liam wrote my favourite tune on DOYS (I'm Outta Time although Bag It Up and The Turning are close), DBTT (Guess God Thinks I'm Abel) and it's a close call between Songbird and Stop Crying Your Heart Out. I think Liam's highs are very high indeed but he'll never be as prolific or consistent as Noel.
I prefer Noel's album to Beady Eye's, not by a lot but I do. However I do take a bit of pleasure reading a reviewer saying Noel has fallen short of Liam because I got really sick of reviewers using Noel having an album out to beat Liam with a stick even though they'd praised the album earlier in the year.
Meh.
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Post by tomlivesforever on Nov 1, 2011 4:41:52 GMT -5
I'll be honest I'm a little shocked with the rating. Usually Stephen Thomas Erlewine is a fairly balanced reviewer and he is an Oasis fan. I think he would have had more understanding of what Noel was trying to do with this album and that his recent batch of songs 2005-onward, especially the songs his sung on top of were less rock n roll. Sure the album didn't have that many crazy left turns but it seems he is hating on it because it's not a rock n rolly Oasis album (like BE's very average but still somewhat surprising effort) And to say that LAG filled up DOYS and HC with better tunes than Noel is simply not true to my ears. LAG in particular ruined DOYS from being a superb album. It's fair enough that he didn't like it, I love it and thats all that matters. Reviews are pretty irrelevant in general, only useful as a guide tbh. In regard to this review i'd say it was pretty balanced, he's a known fan and so i'm sure he gave the record every chance. I think a lot of people not in love with the album would agree with much of what he said.
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Post by deasy on Nov 1, 2011 5:33:16 GMT -5
Typical Liam fanboy reviewer lol lmao rofl etc etc
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Post by anaximander on Nov 1, 2011 10:57:53 GMT -5
Terrible review. He's not reviewing the album on its own terms. He's judging it in comparison to the album he wish Oasis or NG would make, his own conception of what NG should be doing that exists only in Mr. Erlwine's head. Besides, if he doesn't get the greatness of SBAJF, Broken Arrow and Wrong Beach, he's got poor taste.
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Post by Beady’s Here Now on Nov 1, 2011 11:02:28 GMT -5
Really surprised by this from AMG. Was banking on a 4/5 at the very worst. But, for the most part, the review reads better than the score.
Again, the reviewer was looking for rock - guitar solos and raw production. Noel was never going to produce that.
I wish these reviewers would review what they have heard, instead of basing the review around falsified pre-conceptions.
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Post by ctmazin on Nov 1, 2011 11:28:31 GMT -5
AMG is generally quite generous, which makes this a poor score.
Erliwine is a funny reviewer. He's been so far off in his assessment of individual songs, even if he has been a longtime admirer of Oasis. I mean, he thought Meaning of Soul was as good as TOIBI or Lyla. He thought She Is Love(!) and All In The Mind were in the handful of great songs off of HC. He gave DOYS four and a half stars (!!!) and NGHFB 3? I mean, come on.
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Post by alwaysnow on Nov 1, 2011 11:34:33 GMT -5
The last sentence is the only part of the review where you would think he was expecting a more rock n roll sound from Noel, don't know why some of you decided to take this as the only thing he said in the review.
He also said that the songs sound largely like Oasis (mostly variarions of DLBIA and TIOBI) and I think it's a fair perception.
I also think it's funny how when a review is not as positive, it is shit, all of a sudden. You know it's a matter of tastes, and not every reviewer is a L4E member praising it as the best thing since sliced bread.
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Post by tomlivesforever on Nov 1, 2011 11:36:32 GMT -5
k+
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Post by deasy on Nov 1, 2011 11:37:24 GMT -5
^^ I think the review is shit because it mentioned Liam more than the actual album itself, despite Liam having nothing to do with it.
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Post by tomlivesforever on Nov 1, 2011 11:43:54 GMT -5
^^ I think the review is shit because it mentioned Liam more than the actual album itself, despite Liam having nothing to do with it. But would you have said that if it mentioned Liam more but said the album was a work of genius? Probably not.
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