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Post by Let It Bleed on Mar 18, 2011 8:20:19 GMT -5
you've really done it now, NYR. you pissed off the Noel Gallagher fanclub.
also, i didn't see Stevie Wonder in your Motown mentions. winning!
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Post by thomaslivesforever on Mar 20, 2011 7:51:43 GMT -5
i'm not stopping you from noel being your favorite. he's one of mine too, but being one's favorite is subjective. you're mistaking "favorite" with "greatest." i won't ever stop someone from having his or her own tastes, but we're not talking favorites. in all fairness, i can guarantee you some people will say or have said the same things you just said about every other group's songwriter, so please look impartially. you've made a connection to his music, which is fantastic, but don't overrate him because of that. Who says there is is some objective truth about who is the greatest songwriter of all time. There isn't. This is actually just a straw poll of peoples favorite songwriters. There is no objective truth in it. If more people like music written by Prince than Leonard Cohen...does that make Prince objectively better? I don't think so. But would I ever sit someone down that loves Prince and tell them..."you do realise that objectively Leonard Cohen is a better songwriter...even if you don't like his music...he is objectively better" I don't accept that if I don't like the output of a songwriter I have to accept the fact that he is objectively a great songwriter. I can accept that others do think he is great...but if I really don't like it acknowledgeing that is just buying into to someone elses hype which is even worse than buying into your own. For instance, my brother actually doesn't like the Beatles. And no matter what tune he listens to he really doesn't think it's great. My brother isn't close-minded and he likes many genres of music including 50-60's rock 'n roll but he doesn't think that Lennon/McCartney tunes are THAT amazing. I know he isn't one of those that hates things because they are popular just to be different. Should I be sitting down and telling him..."You do realise that Lennon/McCartney were objectively the best songwriters in history. I know that they aren't to your taste...but they are objectively great. Even you must admit that" Doesn't that sound pretentious? What bollocks! You are right, you can't objectively say one is better than the other, not unless you would consider sales or something like that as a measure. And if you did that you would get some real shit in any list made. Since I can't say objectively that Noel is any better or any worse than other songwirters. I can only say that in my opinion if you think Noel Gallagher is the greatest songwriter of all time, you either haven't listened to enough music or you are an idiot. Just my subjective opinion of course.
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Post by bdiplayer on Mar 20, 2011 8:53:49 GMT -5
Noel's songs would likely have been turned down flat by EMI/Decca, etc in the 60s as being too derivitive. Up against Lennon/Mc Cartney, Holland/Dozier Holland, Jagger/Richards, Dylan etc, he would have been laughed out of the audition process.
His stuff in the 90s was fine and just what the doctor ordered at the time, but that's only because standards of pop/rock songwriting had markedly dropped a great deal since the 60s peak.
'greatest songwriter of all time' is a hell of a lot to live up to, but not every Tom Dick and Harry in this country, let alone overseas, is aware of Noel's work. Pensioners with bus passes or very young kids probably recognize some Beatles songs, or even Motown or Abba songs, but would not recognize a Noel song, or indeed a photo of him.
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Post by NYR on Mar 20, 2011 11:37:30 GMT -5
you've really done it now, NYR. you pissed off the Noel Gallagher fanclub. also, i didn't see Stevie Wonder in your Motown mentions. winning! i love doing that! (someone had to do it. this area of the forum tends to become a circlejerk every once in a while, so it's nice to spice things up every once in a while.) almost every argument i've seen here for noel has probably been made on taylor swift forums about why she's the greatest songwriter of all time. i'm just waiting for one of them to say, "if you don't like oasis' music herp derp, then leave!" i love oasis because they have good songs, but i know fully well of the band's limitations. i sort of enjoy that-- it's just rock and roll, as they said. that's fine with me, but if noel's the greatest songwriter of all time, then by virtue, he must have written some of the greatest songs of all time. where's his "strawberry fields forever," "like a rolling stone," "good vibrations" or "my girl"? every person has a right to his or her own opinion, but go out and listen to more music. keep your mind (and ears) open. tomlivesforever hit the nail on the head.
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Post by OasisKid99 on Mar 20, 2011 21:37:34 GMT -5
In response to the 3 posts above this one... I grew up in a home with 9 people in it. I was the youngest of 7 kids. I have heard more music in my lifetime than 99 percent of those in my age group. Please don't throw infantile, ignorant comments my way like "you need to listen to some more music" simply because I don't share your same tastes. Those comments are for the school yard which is exactly where they belong. Perhaps you're still in school, I don't know. My parents had a record collection that could fill Madison Square Garden. Well over 1,000 records and CD's in all, I'm not even including my 6 siblings record collections that could fill an olympic size swimming pool.
I've heard it all. From Frank And Dean-o to The Everly Brothers and Buddy Holly to The Byrds, Led Zeppelin, The Allman Brothers, Jim Croce, Gordon Lightfoot, Peter,Paul, & Mary, on down to George Benson, Larry Graham, The Moody Blues, Rush, Duran Duran, The La's, Guns & Roses, Bon friggin Jovi, Soundgarden, Green Day all the way down to Coldplay, The Strokes, and Keane. I won't even bother to mention the dozens of country music artists I grew up listening to as a young boy, 90% of which I would place a bet you've never listened to even once. Hell, there is a chance that I know more than a few artists of which no one on this board has ever heard their names. And vice versa. What exactly is it that you can't seem to understand about music being personal and subjective to the individual listener? There is no such thing as greatest songwriter of all time, or greatest actor of all time, or greatest chef of all time for that matter. How ignorant and obtuse your argument has become. There is actually nothing to make an argument for or against. It's simply a bunch of opinions. There is no wrong, there is no right. Do you see? I get the feeling you will never see. I have more than a few friends that strongly believe 2Pac is the ultimate songwriter/lyricist to ever live. According to you, this makes them all idiots. Is individuality no longer allowed? Can't a man have his own beliefs and convictions without being labeled a derogatory name?
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Post by NYR on Mar 21, 2011 0:24:52 GMT -5
to quote "cool hand luke," what we've got here is failure to communicate. none of us have said that you're wrong for picking a favorite songwriter. it's when someone says "greatest" that the arguments begin. for example, whether or not noel gallagher is the greatest songwriter of all time. does it come to opinion at the end of the day? yes, but there tends to be a general consensus as to who can and cannot be considered among the greatest songwriters ever.
you may be right that there is no right opinion, but there are certainly wrong ones. i know that sounds very high and mighty, but you'd be hard pressed to back up a statement such as "fred durst is the greatest frontman of all time." if someone actually did say that, he should be rightfully called out on it.
and don't knock on hootie.
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Post by BagItUp11 on Mar 21, 2011 2:10:37 GMT -5
"," For example, whether or not noel gallagher is the greatest songwriter of all time. does it come to opinion at the end of the day? yes, but there tends to be a general consensus as to who can and cannot be considered among the greatest songwriters ever. you may be right that there is no right opinion, but there are certainly wrong ones. i know that sounds very high and mighty, but you'd be hard pressed to back up a statement such as "fred durst is the greatest frontman of all time." if someone actually did say that, he should be rightfully called out on it. and don't knock on hootie. "There tends to be a general consensus as to who can and can not be considered the greatest songwriters ever". Out of one side of your mouth you say "there is no wrong opinion" and with the next words out of your mouth you utter "there are certainly wrong ones". a real scholar you must be... and i would love to know who or what makes up that 'general consensus' you speak of. Would it be the completely respectable and always wise thoughts of Rolling Stone Magazine Critics!? who,o by the way, a week before the release of Be Here Now said it was 'Innovative Genius', and that it was almost automatic to be the best album of the year, to then just days after it's release saying it was derivative and boring! ahh NYR, i really do feel for people of your ilk, people who decide what's good/bad, great/terrible by what the 'general consensus' is. People like you don't have a mind of their own, you are sheep, that blindly follow the herd. You sheep, whether you even know it or not, have been so programmed to thinking that unless it's the beatles, the beach boys, the who, holland/dozier/holland.etc... HOLLAND/DOZIER/HOLLAND!! Are we Serious!? I'm Ready For Love.. JIMMY MACK?!.. We're talking about songs that have equal lyrical depth and context to tunes such as Digsy's Dinner & She's Electric for god's sake. I'm not going to say they weren't influential or didn't write some solid tunes but come on now man! Anyways, getting back on topic, you so callously dismiss the thought of Noel being one of the greatest of all time, but something tells me you forget: Gas Panic, The Masterplan, Cast No Shadow, Falling Down, Where Did It All Go Wrong, Don't Go Away, One Way Road, Let's All Make Believe, TIOBI, Slide Away, just to name a few.. no seriously, i have dozen's more that i want to list but i don't have all day. To sum this whole argument up, you and millions of others laugh at the notion of Noel Gallagher being up there with the greats, not because you don't believe it is plausible, but because the media tells you it isn't! Oasis never maintained their Morning Glory Era popularity, not because they just weren't good enough, or lost their talent out of nowhere, it was because, as the man himself said 'You don't get a number 1 album in America without sucking somebody's dic*, let me tell you that for a fuc*ing start ok, You go play the game with MTV, you go sign everybody's autograph's and do all them meet n greets and all that shi* and you'll get your number 1 record alright, but the reason we didn't get it was because we didn't suck anyone's dic*, and we didn't hold anyone's hand, and we didn't pat anybody on the fuc*ing head and say thank you for selling my records Mr. Record Executive!, we were like, go ahead and put it in the shops if you want, we don't give a fuc*!' Oasis and more importantly Noel, are Revolutionary! No other man since Lennon himself has ever had the balls, or talent for that matter! You see, there is a reason why U2 are who they are, and Coldplay are who they are, they sold their dignity, their pride and their soul to become who they are today! And who can blame them? i mean really? not many turn down the chance to become forever famous worldwide just to save their integrity but Noel has, multiple times! He is one of a kind, in this generation and all others! I know that personally, it is oh so gratifying to be one of so few to know and appreciate him for what he is. Mr. Noel Gallagher, the best there ever was, the best there ever will be...
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Post by gdforever on Mar 21, 2011 11:46:34 GMT -5
to quote "cool hand luke," what we've got here is failure to communicate. none of us have said that you're wrong for picking a favorite songwriter. it's when someone says "greatest" that the arguments begin. for example, whether or not noel gallagher is the greatest songwriter of all time. does it come to opinion at the end of the day? yes, but there tends to be a general consensus as to who can and cannot be considered among the greatest songwriters ever. you may be right that there is no right opinion, but there are certainly wrong ones. i know that sounds very high and mighty, but you'd be hard pressed to back up a statement such as "fred durst is the greatest frontman of all time." if someone actually did say that, he should be rightfully called out on it. and don't knock on hootie. No...I think that people that love Fred Durst would be able to defend it. I couldn't because I don't believe it. But IF anybody felt that strongly about Durst they most assuredly could defend it. They would have vastly different criteria for what a frontman needs to be than me but that doesn't make him wrong. If they actually believed it I wouldn't call them out. If I like more tunes by Noel Gallagher than by any other single songwriter...then he IS the greatest songwriter in my world. How stupid that you should try to tell me..."I know he is your favorite but that isn't actually possible that he is the greatest ever. The general consensus says so"
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Post by spaneli on Mar 21, 2011 11:52:13 GMT -5
to quote "cool hand luke," what we've got here is failure to communicate. none of us have said that you're wrong for picking a favorite songwriter. it's when someone says "greatest" that the arguments begin. for example, whether or not noel gallagher is the greatest songwriter of all time. does it come to opinion at the end of the day? yes, but there tends to be a general consensus as to who can and cannot be considered among the greatest songwriters ever. you may be right that there is no right opinion, but there are certainly wrong ones. i know that sounds very high and mighty, but you'd be hard pressed to back up a statement such as "fred durst is the greatest frontman of all time." if someone actually did say that, he should be rightfully called out on it. and don't knock on hootie. No...I think that people that love Fred Durst would be able to defend it. I couldn't because I don't believe it. But IF anybody felt that strongly about Durst they most assuredly could defend it. They would have vastly different criteria for what a frontman needs to be than me but that doesn't make him wrong. If they actually believed it I wouldn't call them out. If I like more tunes by Noel Gallagher than by any other single songwriter...then he IS the greatest songwriter in my world. How stupid that you should try to tell me..."I know he is your favorite but that isn't actually possible that he is the greatest ever. The general consensus says so" I mostly agree with what you say, and yet I would still agree with NYR. To me there is a difference between your favorite songwriter and the best songwriter. Same thing with your favorite album and the best album. I've always held that philosophy. There's a big difference between what I consider to be the best in a particular category and who I consider to be favorite in a particular category. I love Noel, but if you had to ask me who are the 20 greatest songwriters of all time, he wouldn't be on the list. Now if you asked me who are my favorite songwriters of all time, then he'd be in the Top 3.
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Post by BagItUp11 on Mar 21, 2011 12:28:46 GMT -5
Hahaha good to see Spaneli, like NYR, is a downright conformist. You say Noel Gallagher is one of your top 3 favorite songwriters and yet you wouldn't put him on a list of the top 20 greatest artists ever? So you believe he is one of the best yet, because, as NYR put it, the 'general consensus' is that Noel would be nowhere near the top of the list, it would be blasphemy for you to include him in your Top 20... Top 20! haha i would love to see that list my friend, would that also include Holland/Dozier/Holland as NYR referenced, hahahahaha, ahhh thanks for the comedy guys, I needed a good laugh. And that was a real doozy!
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Post by thomaslivesforever on Mar 21, 2011 13:38:24 GMT -5
"," For example, whether or not noel gallagher is the greatest songwriter of all time. does it come to opinion at the end of the day? yes, but there tends to be a general consensus as to who can and cannot be considered among the greatest songwriters ever. you may be right that there is no right opinion, but there are certainly wrong ones. i know that sounds very high and mighty, but you'd be hard pressed to back up a statement such as "fred durst is the greatest frontman of all time." if someone actually did say that, he should be rightfully called out on it. and don't knock on hootie. "There tends to be a general consensus as to who can and can not be considered the greatest songwriters ever". Out of one side of your mouth you say "there is no wrong opinion" and with the next words out of your mouth you utter "there are certainly wrong ones". a real scholar you must be... and i would love to know who or what makes up that 'general consensus' you speak of. Would it be the completely respectable and always wise thoughts of Rolling Stone Magazine Critics!? who,o by the way, a week before the release of Be Here Now said it was 'Innovative Genius', and that it was almost automatic to be the best album of the year, to then just days after it's release saying it was derivative and boring! ahh NYR, i really do feel for people of your ilk, people who decide what's good/bad, great/terrible by what the 'general consensus' is. People like you don't have a mind of their own, you are sheep, that blindly follow the herd. You sheep, whether you even know it or not, have been so programmed to thinking that unless it's the beatles, the beach boys, the who, holland/dozier/holland.etc... HOLLAND/DOZIER/HOLLAND!! Are we Serious!? I'm Ready For Love.. JIMMY MACK?!.. We're talking about songs that have equal lyrical depth and context to tunes such as Digsy's Dinner & She's Electric for god's sake. I'm not going to say they weren't influential or didn't write some solid tunes but come on now man! Anyways, getting back on topic, you so callously dismiss the thought of Noel being one of the greatest of all time, but something tells me you forget: Gas Panic, The Masterplan, Cast No Shadow, Falling Down, Where Did It All Go Wrong, Don't Go Away, One Way Road, Let's All Make Believe, TIOBI, Slide Away, just to name a few.. no seriously, i have dozen's more that i want to list but i don't have all day. To sum this whole argument up, you and millions of others laugh at the notion of Noel Gallagher being up there with the greats, not because you don't believe it is plausible, but because the media tells you it isn't! Oasis never maintained their Morning Glory Era popularity, not because they just weren't good enough, or lost their talent out of nowhere, it was because, as the man himself said 'You don't get a number 1 album in America without sucking somebody's dic*, let me tell you that for a fuc*ing start ok, You go play the game with MTV, you go sign everybody's autograph's and do all them meet n greets and all that shi* and you'll get your number 1 record alright, but the reason we didn't get it was because we didn't suck anyone's dic*, and we didn't hold anyone's hand, and we didn't pat anybody on the fuc*ing head and say thank you for selling my records Mr. Record Executive!, we were like, go ahead and put it in the shops if you want, we don't give a fuc*!' Oasis and more importantly Noel, are Revolutionary! No other man since Lennon himself has ever had the balls, or talent for that matter! You see, there is a reason why U2 are who they are, and Coldplay are who they are, they sold their dignity, their pride and their soul to become who they are today! And who can blame them? i mean really? not many turn down the chance to become forever famous worldwide just to save their integrity but Noel has, multiple times! He is one of a kind, in this generation and all others! I know that personally, it is oh so gratifying to be one of so few to know and appreciate him for what he is. Mr. Noel Gallagher, the best there ever was, the best there ever will be... Some people might describe you as the sheep, blindly following Noel's inflated opionions and coments about himself. Are you also saying that Noel is the greatest songwriter because he didn't suck american dick? 'Oasis never maintained their Morning Glory Era popularity, not because they just weren't good enough, or lost their talent out of nowhere' The songs weren't as good anymore mate, Noel's output did diminish in quality. Thats why they didn't maintain that popularity. 'Oasis and more importantly Noel, are Revolutionary!' hahaha Now I love Oasis, but the one thing they weren't was that. Its one of the things I liked about them.
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Post by thomaslivesforever on Mar 21, 2011 13:41:21 GMT -5
Hahaha good to see Spaneli, like NYR, is a downright conformist. You say Noel Gallagher is one of your top 3 favorite songwriters and yet you wouldn't put him on a list of the top 20 greatest artists ever? So you believe he is one of the best yet, because, as NYR put it, the 'general consensus' is that Noel would be nowhere near the top of the list, it would be blasphemy for you to include him in your Top 20... Top 20! haha i would love to see that list my friend, would that also include Holland/Dozier/Holland as NYR referenced, hahahahaha, ahhh thanks for the comedy guys, I needed a good laugh. And that was a real doozy! You don't seem to be able to get your head round the difference between 'favourite' and 'greatest'. For example in football terms, Matt Le Tissier is my favourite player ever, is he the greatest? No, there quite a few ahead of him in that respect. Its not hard ffs.
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Post by BagItUp11 on Mar 21, 2011 15:11:28 GMT -5
[quote author=bagitup99 board=Live thread=658 Some people might describe you as the sheep, blindly following Noel's inflated opionions and comments about himself. Are you also saying that Noel is the greatest songwriter because he didn't suck american dick? 'Oasis never maintained their Morning Glory Era popularity, not because they just weren't good enough, or lost their talent out of nowhere' The songs weren't as good anymore mate, Noel's output did diminish in quality. Thats why they didn't maintain that popularity. 'Oasis and more importantly Noel, are Revolutionary!' hahaha Now I love Oasis, but the one thing they weren't was that. Its one of the things I liked about them. haha, ahh the more you speak the more u prove me right in my assumption that so many of you do not have a mind of your own, you listen to what the talking heads say, what the voices through your radio tell you, or what the ramblings of some 2 bit Critic in Music Magazines have to offer, which is nothing but drivel. The fact that you proclaim to be a Noel Gallagher fan personally makes me sick to my stomach. 1st off, go tell people who grew up in Manchester, or all of Britain, even most of Europe in the mid 90's, that songs the likes of Columbia, Supersonic, Slide Away, Live Forever, Cigarettes and Alcohol and Rock n Roll Star weren't revolutionary... you wouldn't come out of that scrum alive my dear friend. As for the songs not being as good later on, the media tells you Oasis post Be Here Now production was rubbish, so you go along with that. However, anyone who truly understands Oasis, and more importantly great songwriting, which you obviously have trouble evaluating, will tell you that Noel's post 2000 output is equal to if not better than his mid-late 90's output. Again i feel the need to inform you, with it being obvious that MTV, VH1, and Rolling Stone did not...Gas Panic, Who Feels Love, Where Did It All Go Wrong, Go Let It Out, Let's All Make Believe, Shout It Out Loud, You've Got The Heart Of A Star,... ''The songs weren't as good anymore mate, Noel's output did diminish in quality. Thats why they didn't maintain that popularity'' hahaha, what a comedian you are, have you thought of making it your profession?.. plenty more coming, don't worry, Just Getting Older, One Way Road, Force Of Nature, Hindu Times, Stop Crying Your Heart Out, Little By Little, WPTWWS, Stop The Clocks, IWLID, Let There Be Love, Lyla, TIOBI WFTR, and o yes, Falling Down! My dear lord, what other band can come even close in that time frame to competing with those outstanding tunes!? well, you know what, don't answer that, i'm afraid your response to that question might be even more laughable than NYR's Holland/Dozier/Holland top songwriters ever reference. 'JIIMMMYYY! OO JIIMMYYY! OO JIIMMMYYY MACK, WHEN ARE YOU COMIN BAACK!? hahaha i haven't been witness to such great humor in some time guys, thank you!
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Post by NYR on Mar 21, 2011 17:10:35 GMT -5
this guy has got to be ughf.
"i’ll treat you like a queen, i’ll give you strawberries and cream, and then your friends will all go green for my lasagne."
real revolutionary shit right there.
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Post by Beady’s Here Now on Mar 21, 2011 17:36:45 GMT -5
I need a couple advils
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Post by OasisKid99 on Mar 21, 2011 21:44:49 GMT -5
this guy has got to be ughf. "i’ll treat you like a queen, i’ll give you strawberries and cream, and then your friends will all go green for my lasagne." real revolutionary shit right there. NYR, Unless I'm mistaken, the Digsy's Dinner reference from BIU's above post was completely in jest. He seems to have been mocking your claim that Holland/Dozier/Holland were anything more than Walt Disney style Bubblegum Pop lyricists, songs intended for middle school girls who had recently experienced their first kiss with Biff Tannen behind the football post over at Hill Valley Junior High in the late 50's, early 60's. And after having gone through their catalog myself for a few hours today, I must concur with his assertion. I personally find very little depth in their songwriting abilities as well as the subject matter they portray, in order for them to be taken too seriously that is. My humble opinion of course. Let It Bleed wants to know where Noel's "My Girl" is. Really? I ask where are Holland/Dozier/Holland to be found when I look, in quite a futile manner, for their "Masterplan", "Cast No Shadow" or "Let's All Make Believe"? Do you really want to bark up this tree fellas? For you to go on and mock the lyrics to Digsy's Dinner is fine, especially when you consider it is nowhere near Noel's 70 best tunes. He himself has referred to it as a joke in several interviews. But in my view, for someone with your amount of postings on this forum and alleged fondness for Oasis, you really come across as nothing more than a detractor of the band before anything else. Outside of one country, one that happens to be notoriously known throughout the world for having an overall poor taste in music over the past 30 years, Oasis are universally acclaimed as a massively influential and accomplished band, that is a fact. They broke the mold that was set 40 years before they arrived on the scene, and as BIU stated they refused to play the game with the big executives and corporate dogs that run the show. Who does that and gets away with it? Combine these truths with Oasis/Noel's unique and fearless approach to handling music critics and the media in general, then revolutionary is certainly a fitting description of what they have done over the past 20 years. As Noel himself once famously and so fittingly titled an Oasis record: "Don't Believe The Truth". You gotta make it your own mate.
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Post by NYR on Mar 22, 2011 0:20:36 GMT -5
forgot how fun it is to rile up the superfans every once in a while! makes things a bit more interesting on here...
yes, the digsy's dinner reference was in jest. the fact of the matter is, i don't think noel stands up with the people i listed. simple as that. some agree with me. some don't. call me a detractor or whatever else you want; i'm an oasis fan but i don't need to prove it to anybody. as much as i love them, i know full well of their limits. they make good tunes. some of them are my all time favorites, but none of them are groundbreaking.
and don't forget that for all the crap music that comes out of america, there's crap that comes out of britain too. for every jonas brothers or miley cyrus, there's an s club or will young. or the crazy frog.
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Post by Iliad ♣ on Apr 7, 2011 17:51:30 GMT -5
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Post by dearprudence on Apr 13, 2011 11:06:50 GMT -5
I do consider Noel as one of the greats of all time,,, not the greatest which obviously are Lennon and McCartney, Ray Davies, Bob Dylan and Jagger and Richards in my opinion. But he will be top10 material on my list..
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Post by shoes222 on Apr 13, 2011 11:52:34 GMT -5
Noel is certainly a special kind of songwriter, considering how much he's able to do with so little, constructing amazing melodies with very simple and few chords. No Oasis song is hard technically to play, but yet when you play them people still assume you have talent. Really want to thank Noel for that.
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Post by Frank Lee Vulgar on Apr 13, 2011 14:48:40 GMT -5
^Nicely put. I do consider Noel as one of the greats of all time,,, not the greatest which obviously are Lennon and McCartney, Ray Davies, Bob Dylan and Jagger and Richards in my opinion. But he will be top10 material on my list.. Those would be my top 5 as well. There are really few songwriters on this level, but Noel is one of them.
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Post by NYR on Apr 13, 2011 17:29:49 GMT -5
Noel is certainly a special kind of songwriter, considering how much he's able to do with so little, constructing amazing melodies with very simple and few chords. No Oasis song is hard technically to play, but yet when you play them people still assume you have talent. Really want to thank Noel for that. if someone hasn't gotten laid from playing "wonderwall," he's not doing it right.
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Post by idledreamer on Apr 15, 2011 8:14:22 GMT -5
wtf ;D
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