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May 17, 2011 17:11:29 GMT -5
Post by spaneli on May 17, 2011 17:11:29 GMT -5
I'm not Spaneli, but... Game 2 winner wins the series. ahaha, got that in just before me.
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May 17, 2011 17:12:47 GMT -5
Post by spaneli on May 17, 2011 17:12:47 GMT -5
I'm not Spaneli, but... Game 2 winner wins the series. that's a bold statement, interesting. i will only say the Bulls played their best possible game and the Heat played their worst. Yeah, but the Heat played amazingly well that first half and Bulls were crap. And the game was tied. So either way, its a medium. The rest of the games will be super close, no doubt. Like I said, I really did not expect a blow out by either side.
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May 17, 2011 17:15:17 GMT -5
Post by Let It Bleed on May 17, 2011 17:15:17 GMT -5
spaneli: bulls/heat. thoughts/comments/concerns? thoughts: good first game. Didn't think that any game would be blow out. Still think this will go 6 or 7. Don't know who will win. But if the Bulls keep out rebounding the Heat, then they'll win. But if Miami somehow competes with the Bulls on the boards, then I fear for them. I contend that no one will shut down D Rose. I still think the best way to attack the Bulls, is to shut down the rest of the team and let them score. Tomorrow will be the key to the series. If the Bulls win, then that gives them an extremely big 2-0 lead, but Miami win and gets a split, then Miami will feel good about themselves. Game 2 is the key for the series. Biggest concern: Game 2 i'm shocked the Bulls blew them out. series are all about adjustments. we'll see, should be interesting.
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May 17, 2011 17:17:41 GMT -5
Post by spaneli on May 17, 2011 17:17:41 GMT -5
I will say this, I was extremely surprised that the Heat sat all their bigs, and tried to go to a "speed line up." They took away any shot of rebounding with the Bulls when they did that. You can;t give up as many rebounds as they did, and expect to win. They're only going to activate one big for game 2, and that's Haslem. Whether it will be enough to rebound with The Bulls, idk. I tend to think that they'll need to bigs, and that they'll have to go away from this "speed lineup."
Another problem is the tpye of defense that Miami plays, also keeps from rebounding the ball. When a shot goes up, they all clear trying to get to the other side of the court so there won't be any chance for a fats break. Which leaves the hop wide open.
Oh yeah, Miami has to fix their bench somehow. That's how the Bulls played them during the season, the starting lineup keep it close or tied, and then the Bulls bench come in, and create a lead.
The big man issue might be easier to solve, if they go away from this idea of a "speed lineup". The bench? I really don't know about.
There will have to be a lot of adjustments for Miami.
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May 17, 2011 18:32:15 GMT -5
Post by Rifles on May 17, 2011 18:32:15 GMT -5
I'd be surprised if this series doesn't go 6-7 games. Even though Miami came out playing well in the first half, I think they were still coming down off the Boston high. I'd expect them to be more focused in Game 2.
Would be crazy if Chicago handles them better than they handled the Pacers, though.
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May 18, 2011 22:33:35 GMT -5
Post by spaneli on May 18, 2011 22:33:35 GMT -5
A couple of ways to look at this:
One way is that, they made Miami work. Miami still didn't look comfortable and the Bulls couldn't hit shit. Bulls got some incredibly bad calls called against them, and they unlucky with Asik going out. And yet they just still barely lost.
Another way is that, The Heat played a hard fought game. In the end got what they wanted; a split. And now they're going back home with confidence.
I can look at this game in two different ways, either way that I look at it, the Bulls still lost.
Bottom line: Bulls must take 1 in Miami.
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May 18, 2011 23:00:32 GMT -5
Post by spaneli on May 18, 2011 23:00:32 GMT -5
Main thing that hurt the Bulls were two things: 1. the missed free throws. I believe they missed 10.
But 2, the 2nd quarter. Just seemed like they lost steam when they got into that early early early foul trouble in the 2nd quarter (on 3 extremely bad calls). They had to play safe for the rest of the quarter, which then let Haslem get going. And after the 2nd, it seemed like they never could put that foot back on the gas pedal for the rest of the game.
In terms of adjustments for games 3 for the Bulls, I don't see any. And I don't think that they need any. Even in a game when everything went wrong, they were still in it in the last 3 minutes. They just need to do what they should have done tonight, one make free throws, and 2 keep the intensity up.
Either way, the Bulls have to take 1 in Miami. Because if Miami defends their home court, then the Bulls are done.
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May 19, 2011 19:26:50 GMT -5
Post by Let It Bleed on May 19, 2011 19:26:50 GMT -5
i don't know if Chicago can win in Miami since Lebron put his game face on, spaneli.
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May 19, 2011 23:28:18 GMT -5
Post by thuperthonic on May 19, 2011 23:28:18 GMT -5
Imagine if he put his O face on
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May 20, 2011 1:34:28 GMT -5
Post by Let It Bleed on May 20, 2011 1:34:28 GMT -5
O O O O O O....
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May 25, 2011 16:12:22 GMT -5
Post by thuperthonic on May 25, 2011 16:12:22 GMT -5
Did I call it or DID I MOTHERFUCKING CALL IT. (Not that picking the Heat is all that ballsy...)
Anyway, the fat lady (yo momma) has sung. It's time for Heat-Mavs: The Rematch. Let's see which side the refs are betting on this time.
Oh, and Mike Brown is the new Lakers coach. Say hello to (the exact opposite of) the Showtime era!
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May 25, 2011 16:51:58 GMT -5
Post by Let It Bleed on May 25, 2011 16:51:58 GMT -5
Did I call it or DID I MOTHERFUCKING CALL IT. (Not that picking the Heat is all that ballsy...) Anyway, the fat lady (yo momma) has sung. It's time for Heat- Mavs: The Rematch. Let's see which side the refs are betting on this time. Oh, and Mike Brown is the new Lakers coach. Say hello to (the exact opposite of) the Showtime era! i never really cared for Mike Brown as the Cavaliers coach. strange hire by the Lakers. best of luck to him, though.
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May 31, 2011 18:25:12 GMT -5
Post by Deleted on May 31, 2011 18:25:12 GMT -5
The finals start tonight, and we will be forced to watch Miami and their monstrous payroll take on Dallas and their freakish German, should be a good series. Cheers!
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May 31, 2011 18:32:52 GMT -5
Post by thuperthonic on May 31, 2011 18:32:52 GMT -5
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May 31, 2011 18:44:18 GMT -5
Post by Let It Bleed on May 31, 2011 18:44:18 GMT -5
the Heat in 5.
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May 31, 2011 18:48:08 GMT -5
Post by Deleted on May 31, 2011 18:48:08 GMT -5
Any particular reason for this belief?
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May 31, 2011 18:55:02 GMT -5
Post by Let It Bleed on May 31, 2011 18:55:02 GMT -5
Any particular reason for this belief? well, i predicted the Heat to win the championship prior to the start of the playoffs, and they're playing even better than i thought and anticipated, so... the 2-3-2 series schedule might push it to 6 games but we'll see.
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May 31, 2011 21:58:09 GMT -5
Post by spaneli on May 31, 2011 21:58:09 GMT -5
Heat in 6. I think Nowitski and Kidd want this really badly. But I think they fall short.
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Jun 1, 2011 9:35:47 GMT -5
Post by Let It Bleed on Jun 1, 2011 9:35:47 GMT -5
after last night's game, this could be a sweep.
the Heat are probably gonna go on a Bulls like 90's championship run. especially when considering they're only gonna get better. i don't know if they'll get 6 but they'll probably get more than three.
the one thing i can say with certainty, a team from the East will win the championship for the foreseeable future, the power has shifted.
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Jun 1, 2011 10:09:20 GMT -5
Post by spaneli on Jun 1, 2011 10:09:20 GMT -5
after last night's game, this could be a sweep. the Heat are probably gonna go on a Bulls like 90's championship run. especially when considering they're only gonna get better. i don't know if they'll get 6 but they'll probably get more than three. the one thing i can say with certainty, a team from the East will win the championship for the foreseeable future, the power has shifted. Maybe. You just never know in sports. Injuries happen. And there's a team in the West named the Oklahoma City Thunder who might have a bit to say about that. That's a young team that really could get better. Whereas the Heat have no cap space and almost no draft picks left for the next of couple of years, OKC has a good amount of cap space with some draft picks..... You had two teams this year who got killed in their conference finals match-ups because they were just too young and too inexperienced. For OKC and the Bulls that problem will be solved (though the Bulls probably need a 2 guard). And the Bulls also have 2 first round draft picks, along with cap space to go out on Free Agency, and could go out there and get a 2 guard. You just never know. I mean two years ago, "would you have guessed that Bosh/Wade/Lebron would be in Miami together?" Not saying that something like that would happen again, but you have 2 teams in OKC and The Bulls who just need to get a little bit better, and they have the potential. One thing that is in Miami's favor though, is that they'll be a much more cohesive group next year. But I think Miami stands pat this off-season. And pretty much comes back next year with the same team. While OKC and The Bulls make a couple of moves this off-season.
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Jun 1, 2011 10:17:59 GMT -5
Post by Deleted on Jun 1, 2011 10:17:59 GMT -5
This is pretty simple . . . Two mega-stars and a semi-star, versus one mega-star, advantage Heat. Number of games is irrelevant, the Heat have this in the bag. Too much talent there to lose this one. If Caron Butler comes back healthy next year then the Mavs could contend, but the Heat are simply LOADED!
We will be seeing this rivalry for the next 3 to 4 years no doubt.
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Jun 1, 2011 10:21:02 GMT -5
Post by spaneli on Jun 1, 2011 10:21:02 GMT -5
This is pretty simple . . . Two mega-stars and a semi-star, versus one mega-star, advantage Heat. Number of games is irrelevant, the Heat have this in the bag. Too much talent there to lose this one. If Caron Butler comes back healthy next year then the Mavs could contend, but the Heat are simply LOADED! We will be seeing this rivalry for the next 3 to 4 years no doubt. Doubt you'll see the Mavs make it this far again. An extremely old Jason Kidd with an aging Dirk. Just don't see them getting past a better and younger OKC team next time.
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Jun 1, 2011 10:36:03 GMT -5
Post by Deleted on Jun 1, 2011 10:36:03 GMT -5
The OKC series wasn't really that close. Don't get me wrong, OKC have loads of potential piled up amongst their plethora of young talent, but until Westbrook learns to play the point like a real point guard (i.e. less turnovers then assists), they will continue to fall short against the elite teams of the league.
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Jun 1, 2011 10:53:23 GMT -5
Post by Let It Bleed on Jun 1, 2011 10:53:23 GMT -5
This is pretty simple . . . Two mega-stars and a semi-star, versus one mega-star, advantage Heat. Number of games is irrelevant, the Heat have this in the bag. Too much talent there to lose this one. If Caron Butler comes back healthy next year then the Mavs could contend, but the Heat are simply LOADED! We will be seeing this rivalry for the next 3 to 4 years no doubt. Vegas actually does odds now based on how many 'stars' teams have comparatively, and it seems to be working. spaneli, the Heat will at least get a center or point guard this offseason, or both. whichever or whatever they get will be better than what they currently have. and yeah, the core they have will play at a greater level as time goes. also, no one's benefiting from the draft this year except Cleveland, and only because they have great picks, and even the perspective players they're targeting aren't NBA star 'locks'. this is the worst draft in a long, long time. you better hope the Bulls do something in free agency and trades. also, the Mavs are too old, this is their last chance. this was a 'transition' year for the Heat, the rest of the league should be worried
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Jun 1, 2011 11:32:09 GMT -5
Post by spaneli on Jun 1, 2011 11:32:09 GMT -5
^^Really do think that Miami will stand pat. Let It Bleed, they don't have cap space. That won't be changing any time soon. And in fact, that probably will get worse with the new collective bargaining agreement. So they're not going to sign anyone. They've got no assets to trade, and while the Bulls at least have some draft picks (whether they're worth anything or not), the Heat used their drafts picks in sign and trades.
Centers don't grow on trees. If they did, everyone would have one. It's the reason that there's always interest in Shaq. The centers market is dead. To even get a good one, or even a decent one, you have to either sign one (which is out the question for the Heat), or you have to do what The Bulls did with Joakim Noah. Draft them, nurture them, and then hope they grow into something.
The Heat might get a PG. But even that will be somewhat problematic because again, they have no cap space, draft picks, or assets which are trade able. There's a reason the Heat have Bibby. Because they couldn't afford anyone else, and that was the best they could trade for with their limited assets.
This is the team that they have, and will have. Don't get me wrong, a few players will leave, as usual. But there won't be any significant upgrades at any position for Miami. I just don't see how they make any moves. Any good center say like a Tyson Chandler will have to take a major pay cut to play there. Especially, after the new collective bargaining agreement.
This isn't me being a fan of anyone, this just me looking that the facts of the Heat's financial situation. No trade assets, no draft picks, no money under the cap.
What will help is that they'll be much more cohesive next season, and it seems like that's what they're depending on.
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