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Post by supernovadragon on Feb 24, 2010 13:59:09 GMT -5
For me it's Don't Believe The Truth. What's yours?
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Post by putthisin ® on Feb 24, 2010 14:06:26 GMT -5
The Masterplan
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Post by Deleted on Feb 24, 2010 14:13:37 GMT -5
I dont count the masterplan because its not a proper studio album, anyway Dig Out Your Soul closely followed by SOTSOG
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Post by Headmaster on Feb 24, 2010 17:18:20 GMT -5
SOTSOG and DOYS are my favorites, but this time I'll go for DOYS.
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Post by Beady’s Here Now on Feb 24, 2010 18:29:22 GMT -5
I voted for BHN
Don't view TM as an album, otherwise that would get the nod.
BHN/DBTT/DOYS are incredibly hard for me to separate. But BHN was my first ever album, so it holds sentimental value. Plus it's just a rocking, fun, obnoxious album with guitars cranked to 11. - Something which DBTT lacked, and something DOYS didn't fully achieve.
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Post by Rita on Feb 24, 2010 18:44:14 GMT -5
Be Here Now. And then The Masterplan.
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Post by oasis6 on Feb 24, 2010 18:50:26 GMT -5
Be Here Now has that wall of sound/coked up sound which seems to turn people off, but I love it. I love the energy so much, that I even LOVE the dreaded b-side My Sister Lover. With Stand By Me and Don't Go Away, there are nice breaks in the action. D'You Know What I Mean, My Big Mouth, Be Here Now and Its Getting Better Man absolutely kick ass while All Around the World and The Girl In the Dirty Shirt are nice in the middle. Only Magic Pie, I hope I Think I Know and Fade In Out would I classify as poorer songs, but they aren't bad at all.
The first 3 albums had everything we wanted in terms of songs, including rockers. The last 4 albums had great ballads and other types of songs, but in terms of rockers, Oasis heavily declined after Be Here Now.
SOTSOG: PYMWYMI, ICSAL. No dice HC: Hindu Times, Better Man. No dice DBTT: TUTS (if it classifies), MOS. Not quite DOYS: BUI, TT, TSOL, AGN, TNOR. This album finally gave us more rockers, ones that were quality, but none quite like the first 3 albums.
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Post by Beady’s Here Now on Feb 24, 2010 20:12:55 GMT -5
Be Here Now has that wall of sound/coked up sound which seems to turn people off, but I love it. I love the energy so much, that I even LOVE the dreaded b-side My Sister Lover. With Stand By Me and Don't Go Away, there are nice breaks in the action. D'You Know What I Mean, My Big Mouth, Be Here Now and Its Getting Better Man absolutely kick ass while All Around the World and The Girl In the Dirty Shirt are nice in the middle. Only Magic Pie, I hope I Think I Know and Fade In Out would I classify as poorer songs, but they aren't bad at all. The first 3 albums had everything we wanted in terms of songs, including rockers. The last 4 albums had great ballads and other types of songs, but in terms of rockers, Oasis heavily declined after Be Here Now. SOTSOG: PYMWYMI, ICSAL. No dice HC: Hindu Times, Better Man. No dice DBTT: TUTS (if it classifies), MOS. Not quite DOYS: BUI, TT, TSOL, AGN, TNOR. This album finally gave us more rockers, ones that were quality, but none quite like the first 3 albums. TUTS and Hindu Times are fine tunes. And how about Go Let It Out from SOTSOG?
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Post by spaneli on Feb 24, 2010 21:50:50 GMT -5
For me its DBTT. I don't care what great individual songs BHN has. For me its about the total package ie the whole album and in terms of the total album DBTT is the best.
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Post by oasis6 on Feb 24, 2010 23:13:02 GMT -5
Be Here Now has that wall of sound/coked up sound which seems to turn people off, but I love it. I love the energy so much, that I even LOVE the dreaded b-side My Sister Lover. With Stand By Me and Don't Go Away, there are nice breaks in the action. D'You Know What I Mean, My Big Mouth, Be Here Now and Its Getting Better Man absolutely kick ass while All Around the World and The Girl In the Dirty Shirt are nice in the middle. Only Magic Pie, I hope I Think I Know and Fade In Out would I classify as poorer songs, but they aren't bad at all. The first 3 albums had everything we wanted in terms of songs, including rockers. The last 4 albums had great ballads and other types of songs, but in terms of rockers, Oasis heavily declined after Be Here Now. SOTSOG: PYMWYMI, ICSAL. No dice HC: Hindu Times, Better Man. No dice DBTT: TUTS (if it classifies), MOS. Not quite DOYS: BUI, TT, TSOL, AGN, TNOR. This album finally gave us more rockers, ones that were quality, but none quite like the first 3 albums. TUTS and Hindu Times are fine tunes. And how about Go Let It Out from SOTSOG? Ah, forgot about Go Let It Out. That along with TUTS and Hindu Times, are definately all quality, as well as the DOYS rockers, but don't quite stand up to the likes of RNRS, MG, DYKWIM etc... That is part of the reason why I feel none of the last 4 challenge BHN, WTSMG or DM.
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Post by kingoasis on Feb 25, 2010 5:10:40 GMT -5
it would have been BHN but the Masterplan just shades it because of Rockin Chair, The Masterplan, Talk Tonight and Listen Up
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Post by His Royal Majesty Revolver on Feb 25, 2010 15:30:23 GMT -5
Voted for SOTSOG, but it was a tough call as I nearly voted HC
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Post by themeaningofrock on Feb 25, 2010 16:36:59 GMT -5
SOTSOG
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Post by BEng on Feb 25, 2010 17:10:07 GMT -5
I really like every oasis album. There isn't one album that doesn't include some amazing, brilliant songs. I'd go for the masterplan, but that mostly is a b-DM/WTSMG album. You could see it as a 'less good' DM/WTSMG. This only proves how brilliant those two first albums were, because MP also is brilliant. I'm going to give my vote to Be Here Now though, not only because I think this album is highly underrated, I find it at least as amusing as the Masterplan. I don't get why so many people hate this album. Obiously, it's cocaine set to music, but I don't think this has to be a bad thing. The best songs in the world were written on drugs. I believe no matter what Oasis would have done after WTSMG, it will always have dissapointed the world. BHN to me is simply a second `WTSMG`, only more epic. (Don't get me wrong, I don't think it's a better album, it is overproduces obviously) The melody of Stand By Me is lovely, d'you know what I mean is slightly dull and arrogant, but brilliant. All around the world is one of the best Oasis songs I know, it couldn't last long enough for me. My big mouth is a rockin' tune, with a nice melody at the same time (love that combination) Even songs everyone generally dislikes have their qualities. It's getting better (man) has one of the best guitar solo's Noel's ever played. 'Girl in a dirty shirt' and 'I hope I think I know' are maybe a little 'easy' but make me feel good every time I hear them. Obviously the reprise of AATW wasn't needed, as was magic pie.
Still can't believe this album is considered the end of the britpop-era. It's a culmination of everything Oasis is or ever was....
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Post by joeyfrancis on Feb 25, 2010 17:41:53 GMT -5
Wash your face in the morning sun.
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Post by lampard on Feb 25, 2010 19:51:05 GMT -5
Only Magic Pie, I hope I Think I Know and Fade In Out would I classify as poorer songs, but they aren't bad at all. SOTSOG: PYMWYMI, ICSAL. No dice HC: Hindu Times, Better Man. No dice DBTT: TUTS (if it classifies), MOS. Not quite DOYS: BUI, TT, TSOL, AGN, TNOR. This album finally gave us more rockers, ones that were quality. i always thought magic pie and i hope i think i know were highlights of be here now. but in terms of recent years, i agree. theres no part in rockin if it sounds like shit. that's the difference between oasis and nickelback. on doys they returned to their classic formula of well orchestrated, distorted, and reflective rock and roll.. in other words, the trademark oasis sound.
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Post by jrs40 on Feb 26, 2010 5:50:58 GMT -5
Aside from the TM, I''d sayBe here now.
Can anyone tell me how bad the media backlash against Oasis and downfall was from that album?, (i was only 8 at the time), It seems like a build them up to knock them down tale to me.
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Post by Soldier Ron on Feb 26, 2010 7:50:52 GMT -5
Can anyone tell me how bad the media backlash against Oasis and downfall was from that album?, This may be interesting, critic and author John Harris writes about BHN 10 years after its release. www.guardian.co.uk/music/musicblog/2007/aug/21/cocainesupernovaoasisbeherA big problem was the hype surrounding BHN by the band's management team Ignition, who unwisely obliged critics to sign a contract saying they would only be given review copies under the conditions they wouldn't discuss it with anybody - even family/wives. Prior to release, Steve Lamacq on Radio 1 was given some BHN songs to premiere on his show, when Ignition decided he didn't talk enough over them to deter potential bootleggers, Ignition took back other songs they had promised Radio 1. This pissed off the media types for years to come as they felt they were being strong-armed into giving the album rave reviews, witness how bitter John Harris (who was editor at now defunct, second-tier magazine Select when BHN was released) still is in his writings. In the words of Q, 'Creation had written a credibilty cheque even BHN couldn't cash'. The album was good - it got 5 star reviews everywhere, but it didn't have the resonance with the public that MG had. More importantly it didn't contain 'a Wonderwall', a big crossover hit which appealed, in equal measure, to the Robbie Williams / teeny boppers fans and the grannies which had literally added millions to the sales of MG. In the aftermath of its release to the casual music fan, Oasis appeared to be losing credibilty at an alarming rate in the wake of bold, striking, innovative albums released by The Verve and Radiohead. Following the untimely death of Priness Diana, the reflective melancholy of The Verve's The Drugs Don't Work captured the public imagination better than the brash, loud cocaine-fuelled arrogance of BHN, while OK Computer has generally become seen as one of the key albums of modern alternative pop-rock music. Oasis seemed strikingly unhip in comparision. Even their most well-intentioned gestures were seized upon by the press. When Liam dedicated Live Forever 'to the Princess' at a concert shortly after her death, NME commented that 'you couldn't imagine The Stone Roses doing the same thing'.
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Post by supernovadragon on Feb 26, 2010 9:20:58 GMT -5
Can anyone tell me how bad the media backlash against Oasis and downfall was from that album?, This may be interesting, critic and author John Harris writes about BHN 10 years after its release. www.guardian.co.uk/music/musicblog/2007/aug/21/cocainesupernovaoasisbeherA big problem was the hype surrounding BHN by the band's management team Ignition, who unwisely obliged critics to sign a contract saying they would only be given review copies under the conditions they wouldn't discuss it with anybody - even family/wives. Prior to release, Steve Lamacq on Radio 1 was given some BHN songs to premiere on his show, when Ignition decided he didn't talk enough over them to deter potential bootleggers, Ignition took back other songs they had promised Radio 1. This pissed off the media types for years to come as they felt they were being strong-armed into giving the album rave reviews, witness how bitter John Harris (who was editor at now defunct, second-tier magazine Select when BHN was released) still is in his writings. In the words of Q, 'Creation had written a credibilty cheque even BHN couldn't cash'. The album was good - it got 5 star reviews everywhere, but it didn't have the resonance with the public that MG had. More importantly it didn't contain 'a Wonderwall', a big crossover hit which appealed, in equal measure, to the Robbie Williams / teeny boppers fans and the grannies which had literally added millions to the sales of MG. In the aftermath of its release to the casual music fan, Oasis appeared to be losing credibilty at an alarming rate in the wake of bold, striking, innovative albums released by The Verve and Radiohead. Following the untimely death of Priness Diana, the reflective melancholy of The Verve's The Drugs Don't Work captured the public imagination better than the brash, loud cocaine-fuelled arrogance of BHN, while OK Computer has generally become seen as one of the key albums of modern alternative pop-rock music. Oasis seemed strikingly unhip in comparision. Even their most well-intentioned gestures were seized upon by the press. When Liam dedicated Live Forever 'to the Princess' at a concert shortly after her death, NME commented that 'you couldn't imagine The Stone Roses doing the same thing'. Thank you for the article and the post. That was definitely a really good post and I enjoyed reading it. K+
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Post by BEng on Feb 26, 2010 10:34:17 GMT -5
It seems like a build them up to knock them down tale to me. Couldn't agree with you more:) Liam's reaction to Noel when he said he doesn't really like BHN: 'I don't know what's up with him, but it's a top record, man, and I'm proud of it — it's just a little bit long.'Also couldn't agree with him more. I'm very curious what would have happened if BHN was their second album, and WTSMG their third... Would BHN still be labeled as 'shite' and WTSMG as 'legendary'? I think they're both brilliant. The only difference is they used slightly less cocaine on WTSMG...
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Post by Headmaster on Feb 26, 2010 13:04:28 GMT -5
No matter how much you like BHN and his positive sides, you can't deny his negative sides like overproduction, long songs and some bad songs. These things really hurt the album in the eyes of the media and general public who owned the album in 97.
I can understand why Noel hate BHN so much, is because it killed the Oasis momentum that they was building, if BHN was great like DM/MG Oasis would have been the next U2 by the words of Noel himself.
But at the end of the day the positive sides of BHN excels the negative sides, making BHN a really good album, but no great like DM or MG.
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Post by jrs40 on Feb 26, 2010 13:26:15 GMT -5
The reason WSTMG sold as much as it did was because the squares were on board, like Noel says "once you've got the squares on board, you know your gonna be rich" or something along those lines. Be Here Now didn't have a song like wonderwall on it, which would have got the squares attention again.
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Post by playeru on Feb 26, 2010 14:27:19 GMT -5
72-110-119-141-155-154-129-115-94-79-70-59-36-18- 9-5-5-5-*4*-5-5-8-8-9-8-9-8-6-9-13-14-18-15-13-15-20-21-20-18-17-14-14-16-19-19-20-21-25-25-31-37-47-63-70-55-60-84-99-108-100-105-101-105-105-93-85-98-109-118-137-149-172-168-164-178
I just posted the WTSMG chart history in the US. You notice that initially it was a flop, and then Wonderwall hit the radios. So yes, it was one song that made the album huge commercially.
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Post by Poshbird05 on Feb 26, 2010 15:25:02 GMT -5
The Masterplan, by far and away, I'd even contemplate putting it over What's the Story.
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Post by His Royal Majesty Revolver on Feb 26, 2010 18:44:17 GMT -5
72-110-119-141-155-154-129-115-94-79-70-59-36-18- 9-5-5-5-*4*-5-5-8-8-9-8-9-8-6-9-13-14-18-15-13-15-20-21-20-18-17-14-14-16-19-19-20-21-25-25-31-37-47-63-70-55-60-84-99-108-100-105-101-105-105-93-85-98-109-118-137-149-172-168-164-178 I just posted the WTSMG chart history in the US. You notice that initially it was a flop, and then Wonderwall hit the radios. So yes, it was one song that made the album huge commercially. That is fucking cool!!
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