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Post by supersonic1983 on Aug 30, 2009 13:27:39 GMT -5
It would be a disaster - I probably wouldn't buy a Noel absent Oasis album. I'd judge it on its merits, same as I do any other album.
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Post by korky on Aug 30, 2009 15:03:02 GMT -5
Gem will work with record and tour (and maybe write) with/for both of them if they both do a solo thing. Not sure about Andy, but I'd expect he'll at least do some recording with at least one of them. I'd still go see them without Noel. I'm not a Noel fan, or a Liam fan, I'm an Oasis fan.
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Post by doco on Aug 30, 2009 16:31:44 GMT -5
its not about been a Noel or Liam fan, i'd say both contributedto this situation. But its one thing saying they should carry on but when you think of the songs Liam Gem and Andy wrote I thinkits pointless even recording an album. Lets be honest Oasis WILL be back no doubt about it. There's usually a 2 to 3 year gap between albums I reckon give it 5years this time. As a touring band they could go on as long as the Rolling Stones as there's no better act at putting bums on seats
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Post by Mogly on Aug 30, 2009 17:46:29 GMT -5
^^^^^^
U2's tours are way bigger
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Post by NYR on Aug 30, 2009 18:38:44 GMT -5
^^^ the man's got a point.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 30, 2009 19:21:31 GMT -5
^^Six to be exact^^
BA DUM TISH
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Post by loveramusica88yenn on Aug 30, 2009 21:00:15 GMT -5
I wanna see them go and show they can do without Noel! I love Noel but come on, hes left so many times! The band should just go on like they did in 2000! Make a different setlist, put in any ideas they want to but havent been able to, new style!
The boys are over 40 and they are not getting any younger so they should just record what ever they hell they want! just change the name and thats it! the OASIS name won't be tarnished
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Post by drummert5 on Aug 30, 2009 21:35:13 GMT -5
Except in 2000, Noel's leaving didn't cause them to do anything differently other than drop the Noel sung songs from the setlist.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 30, 2009 23:45:44 GMT -5
Except in 2000, Noel's leaving didn't cause them to do anything differently other than drop the Noel sung songs from the setlist. That's cos they were in the middle of the tour and before huge British dates. This time around, they probably just thought fuck it. There's only a handful of shows left, unfortunately.
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Post by leavethemallbehind on Aug 31, 2009 7:43:03 GMT -5
No, Liam & Noel are Oasis if one is missing there is no Oasis Noel moreso than Liam. But yea, I don't want Liam and the rest of them to carry on under the Oasis name. If they want to continue, fine. But they aren't Oasis anymore. I don't think they even want to do that. ^^ But yeah... Must admit a part of me is intrigued to see how Oasis would fare without Noel to steer the ship, probably more so in terms of live performance. Can't help but wonder what kind of setlist they'd put together. I feel the same way. I don't know how much I would anticipate a new album by Oasis without Noel, but I would definitely love to see the band live. There's no doubt in my mind that they would still be great on stage. If Noel's gone, I don't want Andy to stay in the band. -_- Andy,Chris,Colin and Jay will follow Noel because He gave them the job in the first place I wouldn't be at all surprised to see them being part of His solo career I think Gem and Chris and yes, also Jay could really help him out. But I doubt that Andy would have much to do. I also wondered what a possible set would be. I seem to remember Liam saying that he wanted to bring out stuff like Rockin Chair etc. so if the band do go on i guess we will see if he actually meant it. Just wish they could of played the last couple of shows without Noel like in 2000 just to see how it went... Oh yeah, I'd love to hear Rockin' Chair live. Damn, why did they have Songbird on the Berlin and Munich setlist and not Live Forever?
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Post by leavethemallbehind on Aug 31, 2009 7:46:31 GMT -5
Gem will work with record and tour (and maybe write) with/for both of them if they both do a solo thing. Not sure about Andy, but I'd expect he'll at least do some recording with at least one of them. I'd still go see them without Noel. I'm not a Noel fan, or a Liam fan, I'm an Oasis fan. If Andy does something with one of the former Oasis band members, I guess it'd be Liam. But he could also do something else...
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Post by Bellboy on Aug 31, 2009 9:23:56 GMT -5
Oasis without Noel is like Chuck without Norris. It could never work!!!
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Post by liamholland on Aug 31, 2009 12:13:10 GMT -5
as much as i love liam's voice, he is not exactly a great songwriter: he can't write hits, often bad lyrics and less originality than noel's bad days.. and live i just could'nt stand to watch oasis without noel.. plus i really can't see gem choosing to play with liam, i always saw him as very loyal to noel (even if having read his latest post, who knows what their relationship is right now?) can i ride with u, in your b m w, u can sail with me in my yellow submarine, pure poetical lyrics ;D and with noel posting he's sick of the lack of support of the rest of the band members, i think noel's relationship with anyone isn't good at the moment, by the way, i can't see noel doing an oasis like rock record, must be acoustic stuff if he's gonna do a solo album. Noel's voice can't carry heavy rock tunes
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Post by leavethemallbehind on Aug 31, 2009 12:51:54 GMT -5
can i ride with u, in your b m w, u can sail with me in my yellow submarine, pure poetical lyrics ;D and with noel posting he's sick of the lack of support of the rest of the band members, i think noel's relationship with anyone isn't good at the moment, by the way, i can't see noel doing an oasis like rock record, must be acoustic stuff if he's gonna do a solo album. Noel's voice can't carry heavy rock tunes I bet his voice could carry "heavy rock tunes", but his acoustic songs fit his voice better. Yes, I'd agree with that.
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Post by Marky on Aug 31, 2009 13:55:08 GMT -5
It would be a disaster - I probably wouldn't buy a Noel absent Oasis album. I'd judge it on its merits, same as I do any other album. Exactly. I'd listen to the same way I would to something like Chinese Democracy. Not judging the history of it, just appreciating the brilliant music within.
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Post by henrod89 on Aug 31, 2009 15:01:21 GMT -5
as much as i love liam's voice, he is not exactly a great songwriter: he can't write hits, often bad lyrics and less originality than noel's bad days.. and live i just could'nt stand to watch oasis without noel.. plus i really can't see gem choosing to play with liam, i always saw him as very loyal to noel (even if having read his latest post, who knows what their relationship is right now?) can i ride with u, in your b m w, u can sail with me in my yellow submarine, pure poetical lyrics ;D and with noel posting he's sick of the lack of support of the rest of the band members, i think noel's relationship with anyone isn't good at the moment, by the way, i can't see noel doing an oasis like rock record, must be acoustic stuff if he's gonna do a solo album. Noel's voice can't carry heavy rock tunes Noel's voice can definitely carry the heavier tunes. Yes, his voice is better fit for the acoustical ones, but this is what I'm talking about when people sell Noel short and give Liam too much credit. When Noel sings songs on records, it's usually because Liam can't do it. And the last time I checked, Mucky Fingers is a rockin' tune and Noel hit it out of the ballpark.
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Post by ohmeohmy on Aug 31, 2009 15:29:39 GMT -5
I'd like to see it just for the variety. As someone posted earlier, your setlist is going to be different if you lose your guitarist half through a tour than a pre planned Noel-less tour. I think it could be good, and think Noel would actually change his mind if saw that they could be good even in his absence.
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Post by drummert5 on Aug 31, 2009 20:04:59 GMT -5
Noel's voice can't carry heavy rock tunes And the last time I checked, Mucky Fingers is a rockin' tune and Noel hit it out of the ballpark. Indeed. Step Out, anyone? Noel can rock with the best of them. He doesn't have the attitude of Liam, but he can get the job done (although I admit that the Liamless gig at the Point showed that Noel should stay far away from C&A - I'm tired of that song, anyhow...) I don't really care whose fault the split was, if a Noel solo album comes out of this, it was well worth it. The Albert Hall gig is the best Oasis related thing to come out this decade, anyway.
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Post by supersonic1983 on Sept 1, 2009 4:01:36 GMT -5
The Albert Hall gig is the best Oasis related thing to come out this decade, anyway. That would be Standing On The Shoulder Of Giants.
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Post by drummert5 on Sept 1, 2009 10:40:11 GMT -5
The Albert Hall gig is the best Oasis related thing to come out this decade, anyway. That would be Standing On The Shoulder Of Giants. Several brilliant tracks, but PYMWYMI and Little James just destroy this album for me. Which is a shame, cuz apart from that, it's gold.
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Post by thedon on Sept 1, 2009 10:50:28 GMT -5
It'd be like when Sports Interactive and Eidos split up. Liam/Gem/Andy/Chris would be the Championship Manager to Noel's Football Manager. Not swayed by the name change, we all know which one is the real deal.
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Post by bobbyp on Sept 1, 2009 12:14:15 GMT -5
It'd be like when Sports Interactive and Eidos split up. Liam/Gem/Andy/Chris would be the Championship Manager to Noel's Football Manager. Not swayed by the name change, we all know which one is the real deal. Haha... that made me chuckle. It's true though.
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Post by Rita on Sept 1, 2009 18:23:36 GMT -5
I wouldn't call them Oasis. Me neither. Oasis = Noel + Liam. If you take any of them, it becomes automatically something else.
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Post by Marky on Sept 3, 2009 12:06:33 GMT -5
Robbie is on Chris Moyles' show tomorrow, and they daid they'd ask if he's gonna have Sharrock in for his new tour.
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Post by Ferret on Sept 21, 2009 6:43:08 GMT -5
Noel can't sing "hard rock" songs. The Point gigs, the american one in 1996 and that one from Japan in 2000 prove that he can't do Cigarettes & Alcohol or any of the other heavier songs. The fact is, his voice is just too bland. He sounds excellent on ballads or midtempo numbers, but he has a very regular voice which has nowhere near enough, er, attitude to sing those songs. There is a different type of rock song he can sing, though. Has anyone heard that 18 minute song he and the band did in Hong Kong? Fucking mega. We can have rock 'n' roll but it won't be classic Oasis rock 'n' roll, on Noel's solo stuff.
Maybe I'm a traditionalist, but Liam's the fucking singer, and he should be able to sing any Oasis songs he wants. It doesn't matter who wrote them, they're his songs, and he sings them better anyway. Gem and Andy have earned their respect from me in the ten years they've been in the band. They're hardly faceless session dudes, much more a part of the band creatively than Bonehead and Guigsy. Whatever musical endeavours the three of them (who says they'll use Chris?) choose to take, I'll be on their side. They're as much a part of the band as Noel.
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