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Post by The Escapist on Oct 21, 2023 13:15:18 GMT -5
Deep into Oscar Wilde 174 line poem 'The Sphinx' is the inspiration for a familiar lyric... I wonder what others can be found that we don't already know about... The Importance of Being a Plagiarist! (It would be a tasteful poetic reference if Leonard Cohen did it).
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Post by The Crimson Rambler on Nov 25, 2023 19:01:26 GMT -5
'Song In a Suitcase' from Noel's 1993 notebook contains the same middle 8 as 'Callin' All' from Noel's 1994 notebook.
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Post by The Crimson Rambler on Nov 28, 2023 13:28:33 GMT -5
Ok some genuinely new stuff thanks to oasisdna (Brian Garcia) sharing them on Instagram. I'd love to know the sources of them. The original lyrics to '(It's Good) To Be Free'. In Noel's 1993 notebook there's a song called 'Live By the Sea' that I've always suspected is this song. This adds a lot weight to that being true. It also suggest a 1993 origin to this piece of paper: The original lyrics to 'Underneath the Sky'. I've tried and failed to read the imprinted writing on it: Lyrics to 'Going Nowhere'. From the same notebook as '(It's Good) To Be Free'. The only real difference is instead of saying "growing older in the rain" it says getting "getting lonely in the rain" the same as in the demo. By 1994 Noel had changed the lyrics to the one we know now (as can be seen in Noel's 1994 notebook) which suggest to me this definitely older: Lyrics to 'Headshrinker'. From the same notebook as '(It's Good) To Be Free' and 'Going Nowhere': I'm strongly proposing a 1993 origin date for sheets containing '(It's Good) To Be Free', 'Going Nowhere' and 'Headshrinker'. In line with what Noel has previously said about 'Underneath the Sky' and because of its exclusion from Noel's 1993 and 1994 notebooks I'm strongly proposing a 1995 origin date for the sheet containing 'Underneath the Sky'. On a completely separate note did anyone save the photographs of the lyric sheets from Mr Monobrows old website (they're not viewable on the Wayback Machine). I've saved the vast majority of them but there's a few I'm missing. Any help would be massively appreciated.
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Post by deadman on Nov 28, 2023 14:59:32 GMT -5
On a completely separate note did anyone save the photographs of the lyric sheets from Mr Monobrows old website (they're not viewable on the Wayback Machine). I've saved the vast majority of them but there's a few I'm missing. Any help would be massively appreciated. Which ones are you missing?
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Post by The Crimson Rambler on Nov 30, 2023 12:04:18 GMT -5
On a completely separate note did anyone save the photographs of the lyric sheets from Mr Monobrows old website (they're not viewable on the Wayback Machine). I've saved the vast majority of them but there's a few I'm missing. Any help would be massively appreciated. Which ones are you missing? Hey pal. asimarx has hooked me up with everything I was missing (and a few things which had passed me by) so all is now good!
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Post by themanwithnoname on Nov 30, 2023 17:08:39 GMT -5
Deep into Oscar Wilde 174 line poem 'The Sphinx' is the inspiration for a familiar lyric... I wonder what others can be found that we don't already know about... The Importance of Being a Plagiarist! (It would be a tasteful poetic reference if Leonard Cohen did it). Always wondered where that line came from - never believed Noel came up with it!
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Post by welshylad on Dec 5, 2023 17:50:45 GMT -5
Aberdeen 1997. Noel and Liam wear the same shirt on different nights
One night Liam has a black jumper and Noel wears the beige shirt The other night Liam wears the same beige shirt
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Post by The Crimson Rambler on Dec 10, 2023 7:54:31 GMT -5
Ok some genuinely new stuff thanks to oasisdna (Brian Garcia) sharing them on Instagram. I'd love to know the sources of them. ... The original lyrics to 'Underneath the Sky'. I've tried and failed to read the imprinted writing on it: Update: I can now read the imprinted writing well enough to understand what it is exactly. It's an earlier draft of the song. Some of the more illegible imprints I've highlighted are clearly not 100% accurate but there's enough information here to show what it was that was written on top of this page. The only way we'd get a better insight to what the earlier draft is is if the physical copy shows up or oasisdna can provide a high resolution image of the back of the paper with some strong side lighting. Then with a bit of squinting hopefully it would reveal itself. Also, on an unrelated note, the lyric sheet to 'Rockin' Chair' that came with Noel's 1993 notebook (which sold at Christie's in 1998 and has an unreleased verse in it) revealed itself again last month. With all the research I've shared on this subject I decided I've earned the right to treat myself and I actually purchase the damn thing and it arrived a few days back! Here is a scan of it in by far highest resolution it's ever been shared in. Unfortunately there's no additional writing on the back or imprinted writing to be seen on it but if I was to find anything obviously I'd share it with you all. Here it is:
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Post by The Crimson Rambler on Dec 11, 2023 14:52:44 GMT -5
Using the same technique I used for Noel's 1994 notebook, I have successfully ordered the pages we have for Noel's Red Silvine Notebook from 1993 (bar 1). I'm able to do this by precisely aligning each page up, then looking for distinct folds and marks, as well as imprinted writing and text showing through from behind the paper. Of course having many of the pages numbered has helped too! Noel's Red Silvine Notebook (1993)
- Front Cover / Inside Front Cover - 'Only My Pride' ② - 'Take Me Away' ③ - 'Lost Again' ④ - 'Blue' ⑥ - 'Is That A Fact?' ⑦ - 'I Am Always Right!!' ⑩ - 'A Shelter From The Fall' ⑪ - 'Song In A Suitcase' ⑫ - 'Razorbarb' ⑬ - 'Half The World Away' ⑭ - 'Whatever' ⑮ - “Body feels asleep…"- 'Hello!' - 'Shaker Maker' - 'Tracksuit Bottoms'* / 'The Mirror & The Razorblade' - 'When I’m Around' - Inside Back Cover *Upside-down
The only page I was unable to accurately order was the lyric sheet containing the line "I would live in hell...". The copy I have of this sheet of paper is terrible and the words are completely illegible. There is some faint imprinted writing on the 'Hello!' page that has a similar form to the paragraphs of "I would live in hell..." but it's nowhere near clear enough to say for certain. All I can be sure of is that "I would live in hell..." is located somewhere between 'I Am Always Right!!' and 'When I'm Around'. As you can see we have various pages missing. The lyric sheets to 'All Around The World' and 'Definitely Maybe' (namechecked by Christie's in 1998) might be 2 of the missing sheets but as I haven't seen a copy of them I cannot say whether they were originally part of the notebook or the additional loose sheets that were sold with it.
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Post by The Crimson Rambler on Dec 11, 2023 18:17:47 GMT -5
The original lyrics to '(It's Good) To Be Free'. In Noel's 1993 notebook there's a song called 'Live By the Sea' that I've always suspected is this song. This adds a lot weight to that being true. It also suggest a 1993 origin to this piece of paper: Ok some more evidence it was called 'Live By The Sea'. Maybe the ambiguous pronunciation of 'live' is what made Noel change the title? [NME - 12 Nov 1994] Oh Liam.
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Post by Casino Boogie on Dec 12, 2023 14:04:52 GMT -5
Pretty sure it was mentioned as 'Live By The Sea' in a Select article. It was referred to as an old track from the Boardwalk. I'd have to dig out the article (Liam on the magazine cover with a purple-ish background, autumn 94 time?).
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Post by tiger40 on Dec 13, 2023 13:26:28 GMT -5
I remember that Liam used to really hate the song when Oasis were together and used to call it shit and I guess that he still does. Personally I've always loved the song and think it's one of Oasis's best b.sides from that era.
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Post by The Crimson Rambler on Dec 24, 2023 15:42:21 GMT -5
Ok some genuinely new stuff thanks to oasisdna (Brian Garcia) sharing them on Instagram. I'd love to know the sources of them. Something I forgot to tie to this is another early lyric sheet we have for '(It's Good) To Be Free'... You can see how it has evolved since the first draft into something closer to its final form, which I'll include below. As you can clearly see in the photo Noel has used a piece of paper from the hotel they were staying at in Tokyo in mid Sep 1994 to write this new draft. The band recorded it in Texas less than a month later. (It's Good) To Be Free
Head like a rock spinning round and round I found it in a hole sitting upside down You point the finger at me but I don't believe Paint me a wish on a velvet sky You demand the answers but don't know why in my mind (in my mind) There is no time The little things they make me so happy All I wanna do is live by the sea Yeah, little things they make me so happy But it's good, yes it's good, it's good to be free So what would you say if I said to you It's not in what you say it's in what you do You point the finger at me but I don't believe Bring it on home to where we found Head is like a rock sitting upside down In my mind (in my mind) there is no time The little things they make me so happy All I wanna do is live by the sea The little things they make me so happy But it's good, yes it's good, it's good to be free Yeah it's good, yes it's good, it's good to be free
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Post by liamseyebrow on Jan 19, 2024 15:05:29 GMT -5
Think you hear noel say "alright tony" just before the drums start on 'listen up'
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Post by whitesebastian on Jan 19, 2024 19:06:23 GMT -5
Think you hear noel say "alright tony" just before the drums start on 'listen up' Tony continues to count in Cigs & Alc on the hihat but he gets faded out, or fades himself out, as the riff plays. Also his little fills at the dead last second of Bring it on Down
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