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Post by liamtheking on Aug 19, 2008 5:23:01 GMT -5
I've been waiting since 2005 ( I thought DBTT was horse shite, a steaming pile of it. I liked Lyla for about 1 week, TIOBI is a top tune and that is about it for that rubbish album) for a new Oasis album....
Noel came out in the best possible fashion promising a monumental 'colossal' sound driven by orchestras and the like. This naturally evokes a sense of anticipation that the best band on earth is about to strike again....
This was supported by that soundcheck jam 'To Love True Love', the amazing Record Machine and Stop The Clocks leaks, the amazing rendition of 'There is a light that never goes out' where Noel composed an all new orchestral arrangement to accompany it, the new spirit shown in the stop the clocks semi-acoustic tour and finally the composing of the x-files theme thingo.
This was all the ingredients leading into what I truly believed to be an upcoming masterpiece from the greatest band I've ever heard.
And now, having been given an insight into the new album....we have the shock of the lightning and falling down available. Both tracks are awesome. I'm stoked with both of them...however I believe that these along with "I'm Outta Time' may well be the only good songs on the entire album. THis is the general feedback of those who have listened to the album. The back end of the album is apparently forgetful. In essence, besides those three aforementioned tracks...its DBTT all over again. How do they fuck this up? How does this shit happen twice...?
I feel that Oasis may well have blown their final chance at being credibly labelled the best band on earth.
how much better would this tracklisting have been....
1. The Shock of the Lightning 2. Waiting For The Rapture 3. The Turning? 4. Stop The Clocks 5. I Want To Live In A Dream (In My Record Machine) 6. I'm Outta Time 7. Falling Down 8. To Love True Love
I just feel that they've made an album that shouldve been great into an ordinary one....
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Post by dj12345 on Aug 19, 2008 5:26:52 GMT -5
It doesnt seems like he has heard the album!
However I agree that I would like STC and RM on it. I dont believe AGN and Andys song are close to them to be honest.
From the reviews we have recieved those 3 are not the best songs. Infact most people point out BIU and especially Turning as better songs than TSOTL.
Do you have a link?
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Post by ilept on Aug 19, 2008 5:35:55 GMT -5
wait .. noel wrote the new x files theme song ? u mean the first x files movie right ? teotihuacan ..
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Post by Elias on Aug 19, 2008 5:44:34 GMT -5
OK, I've read it. You're mental.
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Post by LlAM on Aug 19, 2008 5:58:02 GMT -5
how much better would this tracklisting have been.... 1. The Shock of the Lightning 2. Waiting For The Rapture 3. The Turning? 4. Stop The Clocks 5. I Want To Live In A Dream (In My Record Machine) 6. I'm Outta Time 7. Falling Down 8. To Love True Love I just feel that they've made an album that shouldve been great into an ordinary one.... If anything is ordinary it's STC and RM! Fuck me those songs are boring! And including a song of which we've heard like a 40 sec improvised jam? Useless!
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Post by Beady’s Here Now on Aug 19, 2008 6:04:56 GMT -5
I know I bigged up STC and especially RM, and while both still have massive potential if done right, Falling Down and TSOTL are both better songs.....(Falling Down basically shows us how good STC can be if Noel produces it correctly, same with the comparison of TSOTL to RM)
As for this "review" it's negated by the fact that he hasn't even heard the album yet!!!! By all means, criticize it if you don't like it, but wait until you've actually heard the bloody thing before you do so!
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Post by puretone on Aug 19, 2008 6:15:19 GMT -5
How can you say Bag It Up, Solider On etc. shouldn't be on the album and give us a tracklist you think would be better when you haven't even heard the fucking album? The dudes who heard the album have heard it once in a room full of people and didn't take it all in. All they could say was ''This song was heavy'' and all that shit.
Also Im happy stop the clocks and Record Machine got left off. They sound like tunes that would have perfectly fit on DBTT and don't really go with the sound we've heard from this album so far. Noel wanted to escape form the songy type tunes and Ain't Got Nothing ain't that songy and I can understand why its on the album.
Wait til you hear the album ffs
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Post by dj12345 on Aug 19, 2008 6:16:43 GMT -5
Ok, I thought you quoted someone but it is your opinion. Honestly. Listen to the album first. After that you can slagg it off. This topic is rather funny. ;D
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Post by deks on Aug 19, 2008 6:20:24 GMT -5
"Speaking in more detail about the project, Gallagher said that the album is split into two parts. “There’s a kind of piano-y, John Lennon-y obligatory plod-away song in the middle, which Liam’s wrote, and that’s to break up the two sides which are pretty intense and it’s full-on from the start to finish,” he said. www.gigwise.com/news/45463/noel-gallagher-new-oasis-album-is-biblical
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Post by themanwithnoname on Aug 19, 2008 7:01:19 GMT -5
Stop The Clocks was a bit disappointing so I can see why they left that off.
But I agree - a Liam-sung Record Machine should definitely have been on the album. It's better than Falling Down in my opinion.
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Post by Beady’s Here Now on Aug 19, 2008 10:46:54 GMT -5
Stop The Clocks was a bit disappointing so I can see why they left that off. But I agree - a Liam-sung Record Machine should definitely have been on the album. It's better than Falling Down in my opinion. I don't see how you can make that comparison, they're two completely different songs Out of the 4, I would group them as such: STC + Falling Down RM + TSOTL If you go by that grouping, FD is better than STC but shows the potential of STC if it's produced in the same way RM and TSOTL are harder to separate, I say TSOTL just edges out RM here too, but again, if Noel develops RM properly, it will be much better.
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Post by Oasis39 on Aug 19, 2008 10:58:53 GMT -5
STC and RM would have sounded perfect on DBTT, the two songs weve heard from DOYS dont sound good with STC and RM. If anything at this point, Oasis knows that STC and RM are 2 very good songs with loads of potential, Maybe we'll see a Double A side single released around Christmas with those 2 songs on it, Or they save those songs for their next album
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Post by Beady’s Here Now on Aug 19, 2008 11:46:34 GMT -5
STC and RM would have sounded perfect on DBTT, the two songs weve heard from DOYS dont sound good with STC and RM. If anything at this point, Oasis knows that STC and RM are 2 very good songs with loads of potential, Maybe we'll see a Double A side single released around Christmas with those 2 songs on it, Or they save those songs for their next album Yeah, I still have a strong feeling that they're saving both songs for a future album, hopefully making both better and not leaving them as is. As far as we know, they aren't b-sides to any songs on DOYS (thank god for that, they're better than B-Sides). They aren't on the Deluxe editions either (although Boy With the Blues is ) So they remain officially unreleased. Wouldn't surprise me to see them provide the basis for the next album, with fresh material intertwined within those 2 songs....
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Post by gaspanic31 on Aug 19, 2008 12:01:51 GMT -5
A lot of people are basing STC and RM of the demos they heard when Noel said himself that they had 6 different versions (STC). I could see why Noel would leave of RM & STC if those were the finished songs but we haven't heard other versions.
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Post by caats19 on Aug 19, 2008 12:08:43 GMT -5
hahaha that is terrible. DBTT is horrible shit but STC and Record Machine are great. HAHA. sometimes oasis fans have terrible taste in oasis.
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Post by matt on Aug 20, 2008 15:34:31 GMT -5
Listen to the album first before slagging it off. Many previews have suggested this album to be their best in AGES.
Anyway, it's about what fits on the album musically, and if Record Machine doesn't sound right on it, then it's best having it off. Personally, I think the whole orchestras thing is going to happen perhaps on the next Oasis album.
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Post by gerwin on Aug 20, 2008 16:01:46 GMT -5
Well seeing as you must have heard the album to know this how about sharing it with us ?
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Post by nehemiah on Aug 20, 2008 16:11:33 GMT -5
If anything is ordinary it's STC and RM! Fuck me those songs are boring! You speaketh teh truth
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Post by The Boy Without the Blues on Aug 20, 2008 16:20:41 GMT -5
I just think how stupid is to say that "To Love True Love" is a good song... that's not even the real name! with production could be a ncie song, maybe a b-side, but people keep talking like it was the next Masterplan or something... but hey, this guy is judging sngs he never heard it, so I guess it all make sense...
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Post by gaspanic31 on Aug 20, 2008 16:35:18 GMT -5
Is it possible to hear "To Love True Love?"
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Post by A on Aug 20, 2008 16:41:28 GMT -5
Doesn't anyone wait to hear a goddamn record before they make up their minds? Idiot.
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Post by henrod89 on Aug 20, 2008 17:19:12 GMT -5
Yea, like most people here are saying, this is quite a stupid post.
It is true that a lot of people are saying the the second half of the album seems weak but these reviews are coming from people who heard the album only one time over a PA in a noisy room. It's quite hard to judge an album like that. Hell, it would be hard to judge an album if you listened to it in a room by yourself only one time, much less the way these people did it.
The only song I have a bad feeling about is Soldier On because it was the last song played and no one has said anything good about it really. However, it was right before the gig was about to start and it was loud. But I had a bad feeling about this song to begin with because Liam wrote it and I don't like the fact that his song closes an album.
I remember when I first heard DBTT, the songs I liked the most (KTDA, MF, Lyla, and LTBL to name the main ones) are now some of the ones I least like on the album. Not saying they're bad. I'm just saying I prefer most of the other ones. So I wouldn't take too much from these reviews . . .
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Post by songbird11 on Aug 20, 2008 18:30:05 GMT -5
for a start DBTT was definitely a return to form also how can you go by reviews?? thing is we all prefer certain tracks on albums to other people.This album will be even better than DBTT,i wanna predict this will be their best since BHN
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Post by lino on Aug 20, 2008 19:16:49 GMT -5
DBTT is a solid album. All the recent hate for it, the backlash - it's not warranted.
Stop The Clocks was a massive disappointment - plodding effort, no dynamics at all. It really isn't a good song and would need to be revamped not only musically but lyrically before being included on an album.
Record Machine's highlight is right at the end ("you can't gimme a reason...") - the rest is quite dull, and Noel's voice kinda cloying during "dream" and "machine". Painful.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 20, 2008 22:44:21 GMT -5
I'd be gutted if Record Machine or Stop The Clocks was on the record. Both are boring tunes going off the demos.
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