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Post by Mario on Jun 16, 2005 22:02:20 GMT -5
Hello,
So thats where a lot of the news is today right? The US is there along with other countries. But as an AMERICAN CITIZEN, i am very disappointed with what the US is doing. They should not have gone to Iraq, North Korea, yes, but not Iraq. Now we are gonna fuck with Iran, this aint right. America is just messing around over there. And then on the news, you hear about these Islamic Terrorists. Well guess what? They dont represent Islam, they are nutS!!! But then wouldnt you be mad if someone walked into your house and started taking your valuable stuff, and told changed your liffe? I am not happy with what America is doing, and especially those troops who torture those prisoners, thats terrible! And the worst part, those soldiers were destroying copies of the Holy Quran. Thats messed up! That is a holy book, and deserved respect just like the Bible and Tora. Please, post your opinions on these issues. I would like to know what you have yo say about this! Thanks!
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Post by macleod on Jun 16, 2005 22:27:38 GMT -5
Hello, So thats where a lot of the news is today right? The US is there along with other countries. But as an AMERICAN CITIZEN, i am very disappointed with what the US is doing. They should not have gone to Iraq, North Korea, yes, but not Iraq. Now we are gonna fuck with Iran, this aint right. America is just messing around over there. And then on the news, you hear about these Islamic Terrorists. Well guess what? They dont represent Islam, they are nutS!!! But then wouldnt you be mad if someone walked into your house and started taking your valuable stuff, and told changed your liffe? I am not happy with what America is doing, and especially those troops who torture those prisoners, thats terrible! And the worst part, those soldiers were destroying copies of the Holy Quran. Thats messed up! That is a holy book, and deserved respect just like the Bible and Tora. Please, post your opinions on these issues. I would like to know what you have yo say about this! Thanks! hey man ..fuck that..were u happy when those islamic jihadist killed thousands on 9/11? its ok for arabs to take to the streets and celebrate AS THEY DID ON 9/11..AL JAZERRA A ARAB AGENCY SHOWED IT...ITS OK TO BURN OUR FLAG KILL OUR PEOPLE BUT WE RETALIATE AND WE ARE CONDEMED??? FUCK OFF..ITS A WAR I COULD CARE LESS ABOUT THE PRISONERS ..WHERE IS THE SYMPATHY FOR ALL THE INNOCENT WESTERNERS BEHEADED??? FUCK THE IRAQIS FUCK THE JIHAD, AND I HOPE WE NUKE THE MIDEAST..AND END THIS CRAP
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Post by macleod on Jun 16, 2005 22:31:28 GMT -5
AS FOR THE KORAN ..HEY ISLAMICS DENOUNCE OUR BIBLE AND BURN IT .. I DONT CARE ABOUT THAT BUT I AM SICK OF DEFENDING THIS , WE GOT ATTACKED I LOST FREINDS IN THE TRADE CENTER U STUPID FUCK , I WATCHED MY CITY BURN..I COULD CARE LESS ABOUT THE FUTURE OF THE PEOPLE THAT DID IT...FUCK THEM AND FUCK ANYONE THAT THINKS WE ARE A BULLY WHEN YOU LOSE INNOCENT PEOPLE BECAUSE SOME TURBIN WEARIN FUCK WANTS TO MAKE STATEMENT , EXPECT A RETALIATION...THIS IS A BULLSHIT THREAD
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Post by StepOut on Jun 16, 2005 22:40:31 GMT -5
I agree with the US going into Afghanistan. But I disagree with the war in Iraq, there's no point in being there, Saddam had nothing to do with 9/11. Bush is just putting the lives of those who want to fight for their country if there is an immediate threat in jeopardy. The fact is Iraq was never a threat and was as dangerous as an old lady crossing the street.
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Post by britishlove on Jun 16, 2005 23:46:13 GMT -5
I think the world is in a sad state of affairs... I hate war, I hate terrorists, I hate organized religion, and I hate that I have friends and family fighting in some stupid country for what seems to be a nothing cause. As for American soldiers using militant tactics overseas, I think it's fair. Americans are dying over there just as everyone else is. Americans have been torchered as well.
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Post by macleod on Jun 16, 2005 23:50:50 GMT -5
you know its a sad thing man ..i get my thread locked , i am not melting down . i am not being rude.. HAKIM can post this utter crap BUT MY THREAD GETS LOCKED DEFENDING AMERICA thats weak
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Post by shakermaker00 on Jun 16, 2005 23:55:52 GMT -5
i agree, the war with iraq is fuckin bullshit. if the un commisioners would have found anything that would have justified going in there fair enough, but they didnt and america hasnt found anything either. thats why america changed their excuse to that they went in to help the people. it's not war on terror it's fuckin fueling terror. if some vagina would walk into my house and fuckin redecorate everything i would hunt the vagina down. thats what is going to happen in the long run. americas motive is fuckin clear. now that the majority of americas popultation is against the middle east it's easy to blame something on terrorism while you're really acting for your own financial gain. i dont believe in vaginas like michael moore slammin the us but c'mon it's just common sense, the things that are going on should be apparent to everyone. the people in power have their scapegoat and they're gona use it aslong as they can profit from it
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Post by macleod on Jun 16, 2005 23:59:20 GMT -5
i agree, the war with iraq is fuckin bullshit. if the un commisioners would have found anything that would have justified going in there fair enough, but they didnt and america hasnt found anything either. thats why america changed their excuse to that they went in to help the people. it's not war on terror it's fuckin fueling terror. if some vagina would walk into my house and fuckin redecorate everything i would hunt the vagina down. thats what is going to happen in the long run. americas motive is fuckin clear. now that the majority of americas popultation is against the middle east it's easy to blame something on terrorism while you're really acting for your own financial gain. i dont believe in vaginas like michael moore slammin the us but c'mon it's just common sense, the things that are going on should be apparent to everyone. the people in power have their scapegoat and they're gona use it aslong as they can profit from it i may disagree with you christian but i respect your opinion..but my opinion gets locked..thats crap
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Post by shakermaker00 on Jun 17, 2005 0:02:00 GMT -5
i agree, the war with iraq is fuckin bullshit. if the un commisioners would have found anything that would have justified going in there fair enough, but they didnt and america hasnt found anything either. thats why america changed their excuse to that they went in to help the people. it's not war on terror it's fuckin fueling terror. if some vagina would walk into my house and fuckin redecorate everything i would hunt the vagina down. thats what is going to happen in the long run. americas motive is fuckin clear. now that the majority of americas popultation is against the middle east it's easy to blame something on terrorism while you're really acting for your own financial gain. i dont believe in vaginas like michael moore slammin the us but c'mon it's just common sense, the things that are going on should be apparent to everyone. the people in power have their scapegoat and they're gona use it aslong as they can profit from it i may disagree with you christian but i respect your opinion..but my opinion gets locked..thats crap well you're right on that one. even my song game is still up innit. i understand that you're hurt that people close to you got killed in 9/11 and that it was totally devastating to the city of new york, but throwing all muslims into the same bag is ludacris. 9/11 is a fuckin excuse for america to be terrorists themselfs.
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Post by feckarse on Jun 17, 2005 4:10:15 GMT -5
i agree, the war with iraq is fuckin bullshit. if the un commisioners would have found anything that would have justified going in there fair enough, but they didnt and america hasnt found anything either. thats why america changed their excuse to that they went in to help the people. it's not war on terror it's fuckin fueling terror. if some vagina would walk into my house and fuckin redecorate everything i would hunt the vagina down. thats what is going to happen in the long run. americas motive is fuckin clear. now that the majority of americas popultation is against the middle east it's easy to blame something on terrorism while you're really acting for your own financial gain. i dont believe in vaginas like michael moore slammin the us but c'mon it's just common sense, the things that are going on should be apparent to everyone. the people in power have their scapegoat and they're gona use it aslong as they can profit from it i may disagree with you christian but i respect your opinion..but my opinion gets locked..thats crap webby didn't lock it because of your opinion, he locked it because you were making new threads on topics that were already being dealt with in other threads... just read his comment as he locked it, nothing to do with his pro or anti american feeling Kalas, sorry you lost friends in 9/11, that sucks man.... but remember who the enemy is, it's not the Iraqis, its the terrorists and the US couldn't defeat the terrorists (who happened to be muslim), so they went into iraq. if a chinese man robbed my house, it wouldn't exactly be right for me to take it out on a Japanese man, would it? perhaps the invasion was just about the US liberating the Iraqi people, as Bush & Blair would try have you believe, but in my opinion thats absolute bullshit, especially as the US changed their motive for the war half way through to suit just remember the feeling of losing people close to you so needlessly in 911 - that pisses people off about the terrorists, but that's also what pisses people off about the US invasion, the amount of graves that have been dug as a result that there was never a need for
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Post by Dominic on Jun 17, 2005 5:38:22 GMT -5
i honestly dont no much about the whole situation - a bit like, girl i no made me read some shite book by the fat guy with the beard - awful consipirsasy theorist - i think that alot of countrys and groups are anti US but in the long run i think that america will not touch the oil because it would cause international uproar, and at the end of the day a murdering dictator who persacuted hundreds of thousands is out of power thanks to the campaign over there - and to slag off the whole campaign is to piss on those who went out there and died because they must have beleived it - i couldnt have dont what they did - i respect both arguements thou
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Post by Jimmy D on Jun 17, 2005 6:11:52 GMT -5
hey man ..fuck that..were u happy when those islamic jihadist killed thousands on 9/11? its ok for arabs to take to the streets and celebrate AS THEY DID ON 9/11..AL JAZERRA A ARAB AGENCY SHOWED IT...ITS OK TO BURN OUR FLAG KILL OUR PEOPLE BUT WE RETALIATE AND WE ARE CONDEMED??? FUCK OFF..ITS A WAR I COULD CARE LESS ABOUT THE PRISONERS ..WHERE IS THE SYMPATHY FOR ALL THE INNOCENT WESTERNERS BEHEADED??? FUCK THE IRAQIS FUCK THE JIHAD, AND I HOPE WE NUKE THE MIDEAST..AND END THIS CRAP. AS FOR THE KORAN ..HEY ISLAMICS DENOUNCE OUR BIBLE AND BURN IT .. I DONT CARE ABOUT THAT BUT I AM SICK OF DEFENDING THIS , WE GOT ATTACKED I LOST FREINDS IN THE TRADE CENTER U STUPID FUCK , I WATCHED MY CITY BURN..I COULD CARE LESS ABOUT THE FUTURE OF THE PEOPLE THAT DID IT...FUCK THEM AND FUCK ANYONE THAT THINKS WE ARE A BULLY WHEN YOU LOSE INNOCENT PEOPLE BECAUSE SOME TURBIN WEARIN FUCK WANTS TO MAKE STATEMENT , EXPECT A RETALIATION...THIS IS A BULLSHIT THREAD im with you on that mate
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Post by lionsden® on Jun 17, 2005 8:46:36 GMT -5
All the negativity in this thread sucks. All you anit-Iraq people need to quit watching CNN and get your facts straight
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Post by castlecraver on Jun 17, 2005 9:03:37 GMT -5
[edited by self to avoid angering people I like here]
HAKIM, I totally understand where you're coming from. One of my best friends is a Muslim from Jordan, and he's like a brother to me. The images that the media presents of middle-easterners are often inaccurate and reflect badly on the majority who practice the faith correctly and are as peace-loving as the rest of us.
I'm not going to comment on my personal feelings about the war... Its not going to change anyone's mind or win me any new friends.
Damn... we almost made it to the msg meetup without getting into a heated argument over international politics...
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Post by webm@ster on Jun 17, 2005 9:52:38 GMT -5
you know its a sad thing man ..i get my thread locked , i am not melting down . i am not being rude.. HAKIM can post this utter crap BUT MY THREAD GETS LOCKED DEFENDING AMERICA thats weak why didn't you respond with those thought's in the thread that asks you to respond ? you come across just as strong by answering and standing up for what you think in someone elses thread I think ....
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Post by macleod on Jun 17, 2005 10:53:53 GMT -5
you know its a sad thing man ..i get my thread locked , i am not melting down . i am not being rude.. HAKIM can post this utter crap BUT MY THREAD GETS LOCKED DEFENDING AMERICA thats weak why didn't you respond with those thought's in the thread that asks you to respond ? you come across just as strong by answering and standing up for what you think in someone elses thread I think .... u know what man if you showed me u locked threads on other topics that were related i would respect your opinion , but there are threads that are constantly being responded to in new threads and they are not locked , so your point makes no sense THE REASON I STARTED THAT THREAD WAS BECAUSE I WANTED TO HAVE A THREAD WITH A PRO- AMERICAN START .. YOUR POINT IS WEAK..AND FRANKLY SAD..LATER
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Post by belfastdon on Jun 17, 2005 10:57:54 GMT -5
Hello, So thats where a lot of the news is today right? The US is there along with other countries. But as an AMERICAN CITIZEN, i am very disappointed with what the US is doing. They should not have gone to Iraq, North Korea, yes, but not Iraq. Now we are gonna fuck with Iran, this aint right. America is just messing around over there. And then on the news, you hear about these Islamic Terrorists. Well guess what? They dont represent Islam, they are nutS!!! But then wouldnt you be mad if someone walked into your house and started taking your valuable stuff, and told changed your liffe? I am not happy with what America is doing, and especially those troops who torture those prisoners, thats terrible! And the worst part, those soldiers were destroying copies of the Holy Quran. Thats messed up! That is a holy book, and deserved respect just like the Bible and Tora. Please, post your opinions on these issues. I would like to know what you have yo say about this! Thanks! hey man ..fuck that..were u happy when those islamic jihadist killed thousands on 9/11? its ok for arabs to take to the streets and celebrate AS THEY DID ON 9/11..AL JAZERRA A ARAB AGENCY SHOWED IT...ITS OK TO BURN OUR FLAG KILL OUR PEOPLE BUT WE RETALIATE AND WE ARE CONDEMED??? FUCK OFF..ITS A WAR I COULD CARE LESS ABOUT THE PRISONERS ..WHERE IS THE SYMPATHY FOR ALL THE INNOCENT WESTERNERS BEHEADED??? FUCK THE IRAQIS FUCK THE JIHAD, AND I HOPE WE NUKE THE MIDEAST..AND END THIS CRAP well said mate
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Post by feckarse on Jun 17, 2005 11:14:56 GMT -5
[edited by self to avoid angering people I like here] I'm not going to comment on my personal feelings about the war... Its not going to change anyone's mind or win me any new friends. you're damn right castle, that's about the most sensible thing posted in this thread, and very very true made me wish i hadn't commented myself earlier... politics is f*cked up
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Post by webm@ster on Jun 17, 2005 11:38:47 GMT -5
why didn't you respond with those thought's in the thread that asks you to respond ? you come across just as strong by answering and standing up for what you think in someone elses thread I think .... u know what man if you showed me u locked threads on other topics that were related i would respect your opinion , but there are threads that are constantly being responded to in new threads and they are not locked , so your point makes no sense THE REASON I STARTED THAT THREAD WAS BECAUSE I WANTED TO HAVE A THREAD WITH A PRO- AMERICAN START .. YOUR POINT IS WEAK..AND FRANKLY SAD..LATER you obviously know half of what I do on this forum to keep it from crashing, it's all behind the scenes and low key with a high inpact, that's why this forum has it's place among the best and that's how I'll continue to run the place, nothing personal, just using my experience. I welcome everyone's thoughts on here as I have said many times. Let's not start a book on this , it's not worth it . cheers.
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Post by macleod on Jun 17, 2005 12:04:44 GMT -5
u know what man if you showed me u locked threads on other topics that were related i would respect your opinion , but there are threads that are constantly being responded to in new threads and they are not locked , so your point makes no sense THE REASON I STARTED THAT THREAD WAS BECAUSE I WANTED TO HAVE A THREAD WITH A PRO- AMERICAN START .. YOUR POINT IS WEAK..AND FRANKLY SAD..LATER you obviously know half of what I do on this forum to keep it from crashing, it's all behind the scenes and low key with a high inpact, that's why this forum has it's place among the best and that's how I'll continue to run the place, nothing personal, just using my experience. I welcome everyone's thoughts on here as I have said many times. Let's not start a book on this , it's not worth it . cheers. as u said nothing personel..and the book is closed after this one comment....if you do so much work as I KNOW U DO i respect that....why at 1 am nyc time do u need to lock a valid thread ?? when there are 3 threads on the page all SEQUELS TO OTHER THREADS? THATS WHY I DONT AGREE WITH U ..IT WAS UNCALLED FOR..I DID NOT RANT ON I WAS MAKIN A POINT..ANYWAY IT AINT WORTH THE AGIDA MAN ..PEACE
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Post by lionsden® on Jun 17, 2005 12:45:10 GMT -5
Let Hitler be a reminder of what appeasement does
This is a case of all or nothing.
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Post by feckarse on Jun 17, 2005 13:12:53 GMT -5
k, i knew that word, but wasn't sure what it meant... for those who also weren't sure
appeasement: The policy of granting concessions to potential enemies to maintain peace.
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Post by lionsden® on Jun 17, 2005 13:25:03 GMT -5
k, i knew that word, but wasn't sure what it meant... for those who also weren't sure appeasement: The policy of granting concessions to potential enemies to maintain peace. Yeah and we know who all the countries are when it came to Iraq
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Post by gowerlee on Jun 17, 2005 16:07:14 GMT -5
and to slag off the whole campaign is to piss on those who went out there and died because they must have beleived it - I'm sorry, but believers of the cause or not, members of the armed forces have no choice as to where they are drafted. I'm ex Royal Navy, and believe me you go where you are sent, no arguing, that's it you go. Trust me I know having served on a ship that was deployed to the Northern Arabian Gulf and to the region around Kosovo, both were during times of conflict. Do you really think it matters whether you believe in the cause or not? Granted, I'm sure a vast majority of American troops had personal feelings about being in Afghanistan because of the unfortunate events of 9/11, but hte bottom line is, if there's a job to be done you have got to do it. It's the members of the armed forces, whatever country they serve, that have to deal with the consequences of politicians decisions. It's easy for Bush and Blair to send forces in to conflicts, but they get to sleep in their own beds at night. The troops, sailors and airmen don't get a choice, they all know that when they join up there is a distinct possibility that in present times, they may be required to serve in conflict.
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Post by shakermaker00 on Jun 17, 2005 16:53:59 GMT -5
and to slag off the whole campaign is to piss on those who went out there and died because they must have beleived it - I'm sorry, but believers of the cause or not, members of the armed forces have no choice as to where they are drafted. I'm ex Royal Navy, and believe me you go where you are sent, no arguing, that's it you go. Trust me I know having served on a ship that was deployed to the Northern Arabian Gulf and to the region around Kosovo, both were during times of conflict. Do you really think it matters whether you believe in the cause or not? Granted, I'm sure a vast majority of American troops had personal feelings about being in Afghanistan because of the unfortunate events of 9/11, but hte bottom line is, if there's a job to be done you have got to do it. It's the members of the armed forces, whatever country they serve, that have to deal with the consequences of politicians decisions. It's easy for Bush and Blair to send forces in to conflicts, but they get to sleep in their own beds at night. The troops, sailors and airmen don't get a choice, they all know that when they join up there is a distinct possibility that in present times, they may be required to serve in conflict. my mum was a teacher in the army and i've been in camps when everyone was drafted out and how devastating it was to the families. there is a choice you can make though, get a fuckin education and dont fuckin join the army.
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