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Post by mape on Jun 18, 2005 17:25:38 GMT -5
Kalas you are throwing one of your little girl hissy fits just because he called you a "dumb white boy" or something along those lines. Now I am not saying what he said was right but what you said, and continue to say is a hell of a lot more bigoted and inflammatory than what he said.
He didn't say "nuke all whites" or "nuke america" now did he?
Look in the mirror first before you start slinging mud around. Your ignorance and bigotry is worse than anything he said.
So you want to destroy all Arabs for revenge? Is it me or doesn't that sound like something a terrorist would say. They are always going on about revenge. Yup someone call interpol, we got a run of the mill terrorist on our hands here with Kalas.
And your train of thoughts is completely wrong. I guess if an African american killed a friend of yours, you would seek revenge and feel hatred towards all black people?
You're going on about retribution for 9/11? But what the fuck does destroying iraq have anything to do with 9/11? Read a damn newspaper and get in touch with reality. And if revenge is your cup of tea then i'm sure there are more than 3000 innocent casualties as a result of the war s in Afghanistan and Iraq. So what? those people don't deserve to live, and they don't suffer but only 3000 new yorkers do?
Regarding the initial argument - The reason why everyone condemns the war, their torture tactics and the whole lot is because America claims to be a champion of peace, democracy, and freedom yet they are not exhibiting any of those qualities by doing what they do. You can't claim to be one thing and do something you stand against.
But anyway thanks for posting your thoughts because now i can remember that it's because of people like you, that most of the world hates the US.
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Post by Mario on Jun 18, 2005 20:43:14 GMT -5
Kalas you are throwing one of your little girl hissy fits just because he called you a "dumb white boy" or something along those lines. Now I am not saying what he said was right but what you said, and continue to say is a hell of a lot more bigoted and inflammatory than what he said. He didn't say "nuke all whites" or "nuke america" now did he? Look in the mirror first before you start slinging mud around. Your ignorance and bigotry is worse than anything he said. So you want to destroy all Arabs for revenge? Is it me or doesn't that sound like something a terrorist would say. They are always going on about revenge. Yup someone call interpol, we got a run of the mill terrorist on our hands here with Kalas. And your train of thoughts is completely wrong. I guess if an African american killed a friend of yours, you would seek revenge and feel hatred towards all black people? You're going on about retribution for 9/11? But what the fuck does destroying iraq have anything to do with 9/11? Read a damn newspaper and get in touch with reality. And if revenge is your cup of tea then i'm sure there are more than 3000 innocent casualties as a result of the war s in Afghanistan and Iraq. So what? those people don't deserve to live, and they don't suffer but only 3000 new yorkers do? Regarding the initial argument - The reason why everyone condemns the war, their torture tactics and the whole lot is because America claims to be a champion of peace, democracy, and freedom yet they are not exhibiting any of those qualities by doing what they do. You can't claim to be one thing and do something you stand against. But anyway thanks for posting your thoughts because now i can remember that it's because of people like you, that most of the world hates the US. AMEN
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Post by macleod on Jun 18, 2005 21:06:49 GMT -5
Kalas you are throwing one of your little girl hissy fits just because he called you a "dumb white boy" or something along those lines. Now I am not saying what he said was right but what you said, and continue to say is a hell of a lot more bigoted and inflammatory than what he said. He didn't say "nuke all whites" or "nuke america" now did he? Look in the mirror first before you start slinging mud around. Your ignorance and bigotry is worse than anything he said. So you want to destroy all Arabs for revenge? Is it me or doesn't that sound like something a terrorist would say. They are always going on about revenge. Yup someone call interpol, we got a run of the mill terrorist on our hands here with Kalas. And your train of thoughts is completely wrong. I guess if an African american killed a friend of yours, you would seek revenge and feel hatred towards all black people? You're going on about retribution for 9/11? But what the fuck does destroying iraq have anything to do with 9/11? Read a damn newspaper and get in touch with reality. And if revenge is your cup of tea then i'm sure there are more than 3000 innocent casualties as a result of the war s in Afghanistan and Iraq. So what? those people don't deserve to live, and they don't suffer but only 3000 new yorkers do? Regarding the initial argument - The reason why everyone condemns the war, their torture tactics and the whole lot is because America claims to be a champion of peace, democracy, and freedom yet they are not exhibiting any of those qualities by doing what they do. You can't claim to be one thing and do something you stand against. But anyway thanks for posting your thoughts because now i can remember that it's because of people like you, that most of the world hates the US. and its sarcastic assholes like u why americans hate alot of the world
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Post by shakermaker00 on Jun 18, 2005 22:02:15 GMT -5
Kalas you are throwing one of your little girl hissy fits just because he called you a "dumb white boy" or something along those lines. Now I am not saying what he said was right but what you said, and continue to say is a hell of a lot more bigoted and inflammatory than what he said. He didn't say "nuke all whites" or "nuke america" now did he? Look in the mirror first before you start slinging mud around. Your ignorance and bigotry is worse than anything he said. So you want to destroy all Arabs for revenge? Is it me or doesn't that sound like something a terrorist would say. They are always going on about revenge. Yup someone call interpol, we got a run of the mill terrorist on our hands here with Kalas. And your train of thoughts is completely wrong. I guess if an African american killed a friend of yours, you would seek revenge and feel hatred towards all black people? You're going on about retribution for 9/11? But what the fuck does destroying iraq have anything to do with 9/11? Read a damn newspaper and get in touch with reality. And if revenge is your cup of tea then i'm sure there are more than 3000 innocent casualties as a result of the war s in Afghanistan and Iraq. So what? those people don't deserve to live, and they don't suffer but only 3000 new yorkers do? Regarding the initial argument - The reason why everyone condemns the war, their torture tactics and the whole lot is because America claims to be a champion of peace, democracy, and freedom yet they are not exhibiting any of those qualities by doing what they do. You can't claim to be one thing and do something you stand against. But anyway thanks for posting your thoughts because now i can remember that it's because of people like you, that most of the world hates the US. and its sarcastic assholes like u why americans hate alot of the world alright hakim, mape kalas etc. i disagree with what the us is doing. just fuckin leave it at that. kalas friends fuckin died in the 9/11 attack, you need to be more carefull on how you attack people here. i dont know how i would feel if that would have happened to me, but i'm sure i would feel some sort of hate too. so shut the fuck up hakim. you intentionally posted this to piss people off and press their buttons and you've taken it too far. it's something different to post something negative bout someones pubes but this is fuckin bad.
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Post by mape on Jun 18, 2005 22:21:15 GMT -5
Ok maybe he did lose friends during Sept 11, and it is a sensitive issue and i set him off then i was wrong. But that doesn't mean that it is a free ticket to make inflammatory comments, and to hate anyone. I have good friends that have lost friends and family members as a result of conflicts around the world, but i don't harbour any sort of hate towards the group that the perpetrators belong too. No one is guilty by association.
Hakim's original thread was meant to be a political debate, and discussion, but you go and tell me who the first one to go nuts was?
And kalas' comments were offensive towards me, and angered me, but i made somewhat of an intelligent argument back at him and cos he couldn't reply he took off.
Kalas if you're reading this than i don't know what to say if all you're going to do is delete yourself and throw a fit anytime someone questions you, or threatens what you stand for. No one is stopping you from arguing back. Just remember to stay between the lines and you should be fine.
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Post by gastritispanic on Jun 18, 2005 22:24:10 GMT -5
Was he banned?
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Post by mape on Jun 18, 2005 22:29:22 GMT -5
As far as i know, he wasn't. I think he just deleted himself again.
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Post by Dominic on Jun 19, 2005 4:14:07 GMT -5
were are these original comments, i must take a wee look at them
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Post by feckarse on Jun 19, 2005 5:15:44 GMT -5
and its sarcastic assholes like u why americans hate alot of the world OK Kalas, ignoring the somewhat idiotic points made by Mape & Hakim, you still haven't responded to mine or Shakermakers points, which i think had a lot of validity: honestly i do not..i said my belief i did not say it based on race..if the terroists that struck us were based in europe i would say the same....WE GOT BOMBED I LOST FREINDS , SO NOW I WANT RETRIBUTION , I DONT CARE THE RACE , IF THE FRENCH DID IT I WOULD SAY THE SAME...WHEN U KILL 3,000 PEOPLE U RISK YOUR RETRIBUTION AND JUST LIKE INNOCENT AMERICANS DIED SO WILL INNOCENT ARABS DIE , IS IT FARE NO. BUT ITS REALITY,AND IF EUROPE BOMBED US I WOULD FEEL THE SAME TOWARDS WHITE EUROS,,AS I AM SURE YOU ALL WOULD IF WE BOMBED U.. let me get this right According to your logic, if a neoNazi group caused consternation in the US, you'd think it understandable if the US were to then bomb dublin in retribution? edit: btw, just in response to your reply there also, i'm not accusing you of being a racist - just want to clear that one up. i'm just trying to understand your reasoning behind some things & people here are way out of whack. my mates dad was killed by bomb that was set of by the ira in the 80s. ireland has been opressed by england for years and years and even at the time, even living in a camp i understood where all the hate towards england came from. would it have been justified for england to storm into ireland and kill a bunch of innocent people to make up for the attack? in some peoples eyes, absolutely. in my eyes no. america has and is continuing to press too many peoples hotbuttons with their actions. it takes someone stronger to just stop. america and israel needs to stop acting like they can do anything and the middleeastern countries will stop hating america. the whole idea of the un was to take away power from one country or person and let the decisions made by a comittee. george bush has crossed a very dangerous bridge. he's taken it upon himself, with the support of confused, brainwashed, scared americans to back him up to make his own decisions. i am honestly scared of whats going to happen. like i said, i grew up in the british army in germany. my ancestors faught eachother in wars. i heard awfull stories from both my english and german side about the war. my grandmothers firstborn was killed by a granasplinter sitting in her arms and pretty much saved her life. that was something she had to live with for the rest of her life. people who havent experienced real war don't know how bad it is and how devastating it can be.
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Post by Dominic on Jun 19, 2005 5:23:15 GMT -5
and its sarcastic assholes like u why americans hate alot of the world OK Kalas, ignoring the somewhat idiotic points made by Mape & Hakim, you still haven't responded to mine or Shakermakers points, which i think had a lot of validity: & people here are way out of whack. my mates dad was killed by bomb that was set of by the ira in the 80s. ireland has been opressed by england for years and years and even at the time, even living in a camp i understood where all the hate towards england came from. would it have been justified for england to storm into ireland and kill a bunch of innocent people to make up for the attack? in some peoples eyes, absolutely. in my eyes no. america has and is continuing to press too many peoples hotbuttons with their actions. it takes someone stronger to just stop. america and israel needs to stop acting like they can do anything and the middleeastern countries will stop hating america. the whole idea of the un was to take away power from one country or person and let the decisions made by a comittee. george bush has crossed a very dangerous bridge. he's taken it upon himself, with the support of confused, brainwashed, scared americans to back him up to make his own decisions. i am honestly scared of whats going to happen. like i said, i grew up in the british army in germany. my ancestors faught eachother in wars. i heard awfull stories from both my english and german side about the war. my grandmothers firstborn was killed by a granasplinter sitting in her arms and pretty much saved her life. that was something she had to live with for the rest of her life. people who havent experienced real war don't know how bad it is and how devastating it can be. 2 fuckin quality points aswell, didnt no shakermaker/big nose or whatever lived here
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Post by lionsden® on Jun 19, 2005 6:24:37 GMT -5
HAKIM never replied to mine either
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Post by mape on Jun 19, 2005 10:29:18 GMT -5
OK Kalas, ignoring the somewhat idiotic points made by Mape & Hakim, you still haven't responded to mine or Shakermakers points, which i think had a lot of validity: what is so invalid about what i said? and how is it idiotic? please feel free and take apart my argument.
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Post by Mario on Jun 19, 2005 11:32:49 GMT -5
HAKIM never replied to mine either Whats your question? I dont recall seeing a direct question to me.
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Post by Currian on Jun 19, 2005 11:57:00 GMT -5
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Post by feckarse on Jun 19, 2005 12:08:16 GMT -5
what is so invalid about what i said? and how is it idiotic? please feel free and take apart my argument. i'm not going to take your argument apart as i agreed with it whole-heartedly for the most part it was the line at the end things like that are only ever said to stir up trouble, and there wasn't a need for it. If you hadn't said that part, the rest of your argument would have been seen for what it was. The fact you said it drew attention away from the rest of your argument, hence it was the only part that Kalas ended up replying to
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Post by mape on Jun 19, 2005 14:00:03 GMT -5
fair enough
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Post by Rain on Jun 19, 2005 14:12:07 GMT -5
I think a person who is white shouldn't try act like other race groups. No offense to people, but I find it very arrogant and attention seekers when someone tries act like a different race group.
I might add interesting in America, whites or other ethnic groups do take over neighborhood areas, and someone of a different race enters that neighborhood. He or she looked at and sometimes threaten, but if the same people who threaten came in other neighborhoods the whites can not dare say anything or look at them wrong, but it's OK for other ethnic groups to do that to the whites. To me that's biggest unspoken raciest in US.
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Post by albertzz on Jun 19, 2005 14:34:40 GMT -5
with regard to kalas' apparently racist post, I don't feel that it is.
"blow up the middle east" is not racist. It might be a stupid idea but it is not racist. It maybe racist if the motive is racist
ie - blow up the middle east because it's full of brown people is racist but blow up the middle east b/c it causes nothing but problems and the net effect on the world would be positive if 500 million people died all at once then 1 billion (as presumably it would if it continued to exist and cause trouble)
the latter is a dumb argument I think, because I don't think it's true, but it is not racist. It's just dumb.
NOw for a controversial statement: white people are at risk. They have no culture. Their culture is popular crap. They raise crappy kids who then cause problems. Other cultures are offered all sorts of support, allowed to insult white people and allowed to go to jewish community centres, muslim community centres etc for no other reason that they are of the same race. I think that is racist. What is a jewish community centre? Is it based on culture? not really. religion? increasingly not at all. Then what? race. That is the definition of racism. White people have nothing. What they do have is to be ashamed and apologetic for their race.
The solution to all this is to make race NOT IMPORTANT at all. It shouldn't be. Community centres BASED ONLY ON RACE and constnatly drawing attneiton to people because of their race is stupid.
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Post by nyr401994 on Jun 19, 2005 16:06:05 GMT -5
kalas, i'm going to miss you mate
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Post by feckarse on Jun 19, 2005 16:24:20 GMT -5
hmmm...... i was getting ready for a great debate, lol! btw, i apologise, idiotic was the wrong word for me to use earlier, guess i used it in the heat of the moment or whatever, 'foolish' may have been a wiser choice fair play man
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Post by Kamikazi on Jun 20, 2005 20:53:29 GMT -5
It's not so much reverse racism as still straight up racism
Racism is discrimination against any person or group based on race or background
Caucasian/white people are definitely a race
It's all wrong and it's all got to stop
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Post by shakermaker00 on Jun 21, 2005 0:01:43 GMT -5
It's not so much reverse racism as still straight up racism Racism is discrimination against any person or group based on race or background Caucasian/white people are definitely a race It's all wrong and it's all got to stop fuckin smarty poo panths talkin again. it was clear to me what he meant just by readin the header. if he would have just said racism ahh fuck it. hope you're havin fun readin your math books
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Post by gowerlee on Jun 21, 2005 17:53:28 GMT -5
I hate racism in all it's forms. There is no need for it, we are all people regardless of the colour of our skin.
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Post by shakermaker00 on Jun 21, 2005 20:32:51 GMT -5
I hate racism in all it's forms. There is no need for it, we are all people regardless of the colour of our skin. aye totally agree except for scousers
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Post by Rain on Jun 22, 2005 2:13:59 GMT -5
I hate racism in all it's forms. There is no need for it, we are all people regardless of the colour of our skin. Yes, but everything is discriminated what we eat,sleep,live,drive,wear,drink,walk,hair,IQ,sex,age,income, and all. Face it discrimination is set in human life no matter what
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